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Why this change? The advantage would be that there is no confusion over *when* the meeting happens, it's always the 4th Monday. However, the downside could be that people are away or have no public transport to get to the meeting.

Getting advance notifications through a service like MeetUp helps avoid a lot of the confusion.

Should we recommend that everybody get registered through MeetUp?

For word of mouth it's easier to say: every 4th Monday. Most people don't seem to be on Meetup. Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waikato, NZ http://www.cms.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174

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We're currently in the process of sorting out the dates for the monthly meetings this year. Ian S. suggested to not bother moving the meeting forward by a week if it falls on a Monday that is a public holiday, as we've done in the past.

But then again, we know when all the public holidays for the year are scheduled <http://www.dol.govt.nz/er/holidaysandleave/publicholidays/publicholidaydates/>, so it’s just a matter of fixing all the meeting dates and sending out the list now.

I usually only schedule meetings once I know what the topics are, rather than the non-descriptive "TBA". This incremental approach makes me also think about who to contact regarding talk/presentation/demo... ;-) With a once-a-year approach, I'll just forget about it. Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waikato, NZ http://www.cms.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174

Hi, Regarding the idea of having all wlug meetings being on the 4th day of the month, irrespective of whether or not its a public holiday. There were a couple of reasons why I suggested this: The first reason, as Peter mentioned, is that it is easier to remember that its always on the 4th Monday of the month. Its also easier to tell someone who may be interesting in coming along to the meetings. The second reason, is that I thought that for some people it may be easier for them to attend a wlug meeting on a public holiday than on a normal working Monday. For example, some people may find it difficult to ensure that they can finish work on time, get home for dinner, and then head out to the wlug meeting. Thus they might prefer the meeting being on a public holiday as there is not the conflict with their work, and more chance they will make it to the meeting. For me only the first reason applies, but its possible that for some the second reason may have merit. If so, then let your desires be known. I can also appreciate there would be reasons for not wanting wlug meetings on a public holiday Monday. For example, if you travel by bus to the meeting, then I envisage that with the changed bus time-table on a public holiday, it would not be as easy to get to and from the meetings. I haven't tried out Lawrence's program yet, but from what I recollect there are will be three 4th Mondays of the month this year that will fall on public holidays. cheers, Ian.

I wrote:

The Python group (on the 2nd Monday) has far fewer clashes: none this year or last year, possibly one next year.

Hmm, actually that’s a case I never thought of: Waitangi Day 2016 is “Mondayized” to February 8th, which is the second Monday. So my code reschedules to the first Monday. But that’s when Auckland Anniversary Day is being observed. Will there be a February meeting?

Hi Lawrence, I've downloaded and run your program. Good one! With regard to:

a case I never thought of: Waitangi Day 2016 is “Mondayized” to February 8th, which is the second Monday. So my code reschedules to the first Monday. But that’s when Auckland Anniversary Day is being observed.

...I suspect there is also the potential for the ANZAC day holiday to be on the 4th Monday of April, and for the 3rd Monday of April to be Easter Monday holiday. ...but this shouldn't be a problem, as we could write to the Pope and ask him to shift Easter ;-) I guess the point is; do people prefer having the wlug meetings moved forward a week if its a public holiday, or would they prefer them always to be on the 4th Monday of the month irrespective of whether or not its a public holiday? Another option might be to shift the meetings to, say, the 4th Tuesday in the month. The conflict with public holidays should then only be ANZAC day (i.e. About once every seven years.) cheers, Ian.

Date: Wed, 7 Jan 2015 17:36:23 +1300 From: ldo(a)geek-central.gen.nz To: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [wlug] meetings

I wrote:

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The Python group (on the 2nd Monday) has far fewer clashes: none this year or last year, possibly one next year.

Hmm, actually that’s a case I never thought of: Waitangi Day 2016 is “Mondayized” to February 8th, which is the second Monday. So my code reschedules to the first Monday. But that’s when Auckland Anniversary Day is being observed.

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For meetings held on the 4th Monday then the ANZAC day conflict is:

Thrice every seven years

However, I was suggesting meetings on a Tuesday... Another option might be to shift the meetings to, say, the 4th Tuesday in the month. ...then the conflicts ANZAC day should average out at once every seven years. (I think, ...but leap years probably muck up the equation ;-) cheers, Ian.

Date: Fri, 9 Jan 2015 11:07:09 +1300 From: mcree(a)orcon.net.nz To: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [wlug] meetings

On Fri, Jan 09, 2015 at 10:49:48AM +1300, Ian Stewart wrote:

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The conflict with public holidays should then only be ANZAC day (i.e. About once every seven years.)

Thrice every seven years as Anzac day on a Saturday or Sunday is now "Mondayised" for those not normally working on the Saturday or Sunday.

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