Re: [wlug] wlug Digest, Vol 206, Issue 18
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From: wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: wlug Digest, Vol 206, Issue 18 To: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:00:07 +1200
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: [OT] Windows OS required (Daniel Lawson) 2. Cloning a hard drive (Glenn Ramsey) 3. Re: Cloning a hard drive (Bruce Kingsbury) 4. Re: [OT] Windows OS required (Graham lauder)
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Message: 1 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:20:59 +1200 From: Daniel Lawson <daniel(a)meta.net.nz> Subject: Re: [wlug] [OT] Windows OS required To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Message-ID: <EBA26160-9870-46A3-B724-27A01DDAE570(a)meta.net.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes
It might be worth checking directly with Microsoft NZ and verifying this before jumping to conclusions. My understanding (from reading MSFT documentation about volume licensing in general, and from having been given some ex-educational computers in the past) is that the licence is only valid for employees / students of the organisation with the volume licence. If the computer is sold or donated the software licence is no longer valid. I'm not certain that the same applies if the student / employee leaves and takes a computer with them, but that would seem logical.
Further to this (and, I guess, contrary to my previous post):
http://www.msdnaa.net/emea/FullEnglish_documentation.aspx ... 2. Do students need to uninstall the software at the end of the course? No, students are allowed to keep the software they have installed, but they may not check out or download additional MSDNAA software unless they continue taking courses from a member department. Regardless, they are still bound by the terms of the MSDNAA License Amendment. The department is responsible for informing students of the usage limitations governed by the MSDNAA License Amendment, and the department should periodically remind students of those conditions.
Graham: I'd trust MS's documentation over the policy of an individual school.
However, the terms of the MSDNAA do say you can't use the software for commercial purposes. So James, if you're wanting to install windows to have access to software you need for work, then this is still in breach of the agreement.
I think this thread is pretty well and truly done by now.
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Message: 2 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:24:38 +1200 From: Glenn Ramsey <glenn(a)componic.co.nz> Subject: [wlug] Cloning a hard drive To: wlug <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Message-ID: <48ADEB26.9040300(a)componic.co.nz> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Hi,
I need to install a bigger hard drive in my laptop which dual boots Windows & Linux. I was wondering if anyone knows of any gotchas that I should be aware of?
What I'm planning to do is to boot from the GParted liveCD and first use dd to clone the original drive with
dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb
and then use gparted to resize the partitions.
Seems too simple, have I missed something?
Glenn
-- Glenn Ramsey <glenn(a)componic.co.nz> 07 8627077 http://www.componic.co.nz
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Message: 3 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:47:56 +1200 From: "Bruce Kingsbury" <zcat(a)zcat.geek.nz> Subject: Re: [wlug] Cloning a hard drive To: "Waikato Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Message-ID: <54e2f3c80808211547s3b3bdcd7vbbbaa4cef13d5d17(a)mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
2008/8/22 Glenn Ramsey <glenn(a)componic.co.nz>:
Hi,
I need to install a bigger hard drive in my laptop which dual boots Windows & Linux. I was wondering if anyone knows of any gotchas that I should be aware of?
What I'm planning to do is to boot from the GParted liveCD and first use dd to clone the original drive with
dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb
and then use gparted to resize the partitions.
Seems too simple, have I missed something?
Glenn
That would probably work, but it's not how I'd do it because it is likely to result in your partition table being 'less than ideal' for the new drive geometry.
I generally create a new filesystem (with the new drive where it's going to be permanently, and the old drive as slave). Mount the new filesystem as '/target' and the old one as '/source', use cp -a to copy everything over.
Then update the UUID's in /target/boot/grub/menu.lst and /target/etc/fstab to match the new filesystem. You can get filesystem UUID's using the vol_id command.
Then run grub-install --root-directory=/target.
There may be better ways, but this works for me.
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Message: 4 Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:26:20 +1200 From: Graham lauder <yorick_(a)openoffice.org> Subject: Re: [wlug] [OT] Windows OS required To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Message-ID: <1219361180.1339.11.camel(a)linux-rzf3.site> Content-Type: text/plain
On Fri, 2008-08-22 at 09:20 +1200, Daniel Lawson wrote:
It might be worth checking directly with Microsoft NZ and verifying this before jumping to conclusions. My understanding (from reading MSFT documentation about volume licensing in general, and from having been given some ex-educational computers in the past) is that the licence is only valid for employees / students of the organisation with the volume licence. If the computer is sold or donated the software licence is no longer valid. I'm not certain that the same applies if the student / employee leaves and takes a computer with them, but that would seem logical.
Further to this (and, I guess, contrary to my previous post):
http://www.msdnaa.net/emea/FullEnglish_documentation.aspx ... 2. Do students need to uninstall the software at the end of the course? No, students are allowed to keep the software they have installed, but they may not check out or download additional MSDNAA software unless they continue taking courses from a member department. Regardless, they are still bound by the terms of the MSDNAA License Amendment. The department is responsible for informing students of the usage limitations governed by the MSDNAA License Amendment, and the department should periodically remind students of those conditions.
Graham: I'd trust MS's documentation over the policy of an individual school.
True, and thanks for that link Daniel, it will be useful. I just grabbed the first one in my search that fitted. I think the critical factor is that a user can only continue to use it as a learning tool. If the user is no longer an eligible user then it is unlikely that it is being used as a learning tool.... Of course being an advocate of Lifelong learning.... :)
However, the terms of the MSDNAA do say you can't use the software for commercial purposes. So James, if you're wanting to install windows to have access to software you need for work, then this is still in breach of the agreement.
I think this thread is pretty well and truly done by now.
As much as anything it shows the mess that MS licensing policies cause.
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