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> From: wlug-request@list.waikato.ac.nz
> Subject: wlug Digest, Vol 206, Issue 18
> To: wlug@list.waikato.ac.nz
> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 12:00:07 +1200
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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. Re: [OT] Windows OS required (Daniel Lawson)
> 2. Cloning a hard drive (Glenn Ramsey)
> 3. Re: Cloning a hard drive (Bruce Kingsbury)
> 4. Re: [OT] Windows OS required (Graham lauder)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:20:59 +1200
> From: Daniel Lawson <daniel@meta.net.nz>
> Subject: Re: [wlug] [OT] Windows OS required
> To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug@list.waikato.ac.nz>
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> > It might be worth checking directly with Microsoft NZ and verifying
> > this before jumping to conclusions. My understanding (from reading
> > MSFT documentation about volume licensing in general, and from having
> > been given some ex-educational computers in the past) is that the
> > licence is only valid for employees / students of the organisation
> > with the volume licence. If the computer is sold or donated the
> > software licence is no longer valid. I'm not certain that the same
> > applies if the student / employee leaves and takes a computer with
> > them, but that would seem logical.
>
> Further to this (and, I guess, contrary to my previous post):
>
> http://www.msdnaa.net/emea/FullEnglish_documentation.aspx
> ...
> 2. Do students need to uninstall the software at the end of the
> course? No, students are allowed to keep the software they have
> installed, but they may not check out or download additional MSDNAA
> software unless they continue taking courses from a member department.
> Regardless, they are still bound by the terms of the MSDNAA License
> Amendment. The department is responsible for informing students of the
> usage limitations governed by the MSDNAA License Amendment, and the
> department should periodically remind students of those conditions.
>
> Graham: I'd trust MS's documentation over the policy of an individual
> school.
>
> However, the terms of the MSDNAA do say you can't use the software for
> commercial purposes. So James, if you're wanting to install windows to
> have access to software you need for work, then this is still in
> breach of the agreement.
>
> I think this thread is pretty well and truly done by now.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:24:38 +1200
> From: Glenn Ramsey <glenn@componic.co.nz>
> Subject: [wlug] Cloning a hard drive
> To: wlug <wlug@list.waikato.ac.nz>
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> Hi,
>
> I need to install a bigger hard drive in my laptop which dual boots
> Windows & Linux. I was wondering if anyone knows of any gotchas that I
> should be aware of?
>
> What I'm planning to do is to boot from the GParted liveCD and first use
> dd to clone the original drive with
>
> dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb
>
> and then use gparted to resize the partitions.
>
> Seems too simple, have I missed something?
>
> Glenn
>
> --
> Glenn Ramsey <glenn@componic.co.nz> 07 8627077
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>
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>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 10:47:56 +1200
> From: "Bruce Kingsbury" <zcat@zcat.geek.nz>
> Subject: Re: [wlug] Cloning a hard drive
> To: "Waikato Linux Users Group" <wlug@list.waikato.ac.nz>
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> 2008/8/22 Glenn Ramsey <glenn@componic.co.nz>:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I need to install a bigger hard drive in my laptop which dual boots
> > Windows & Linux. I was wondering if anyone knows of any gotchas that I
> > should be aware of?
> >
> > What I'm planning to do is to boot from the GParted liveCD and first use
> > dd to clone the original drive with
> >
> > dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb
> >
> > and then use gparted to resize the partitions.
> >
> > Seems too simple, have I missed something?
> >
> > Glenn
> >
>
> That would probably work, but it's not how I'd do it because it is
> likely to result in your partition table being 'less than ideal' for
> the new drive geometry.
>
> I generally create a new filesystem (with the new drive where it's
> going to be permanently, and the old drive as slave). Mount the new
> filesystem as '/target' and the old one as '/source', use cp -a to
> copy everything over.
>
> Then update the UUID's in /target/boot/grub/menu.lst and
> /target/etc/fstab to match the new filesystem. You can get filesystem
> UUID's using the vol_id command.
>
> Then run grub-install --root-directory=/target.
>
> There may be better ways, but this works for me.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 11:26:20 +1200
> From: Graham lauder <yorick_@openoffice.org>
> Subject: Re: [wlug] [OT] Windows OS required
> To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug@list.waikato.ac.nz>
> Message-ID: <1219361180.1339.11.camel@linux-rzf3.site>
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> On Fri, 2008-08-22 at 09:20 +1200, Daniel Lawson wrote:
> > > It might be worth checking directly with Microsoft NZ and verifying
> > > this before jumping to conclusions. My understanding (from reading
> > > MSFT documentation about volume licensing in general, and from having
> > > been given some ex-educational computers in the past) is that the
> > > licence is only valid for employees / students of the organisation
> > > with the volume licence. If the computer is sold or donated the
> > > software licence is no longer valid. I'm not certain that the same
> > > applies if the student / employee leaves and takes a computer with
> > > them, but that would seem logical.
> >
> > Further to this (and, I guess, contrary to my previous post):
> >
> > http://www.msdnaa.net/emea/FullEnglish_documentation.aspx
> > ...
> > 2. Do students need to uninstall the software at the end of the
> > course? No, students are allowed to keep the software they have
> > installed, but they may not check out or download additional MSDNAA
> > software unless they continue taking courses from a member department.
> > Regardless, they are still bound by the terms of the MSDNAA License
> > Amendment. The department is responsible for informing students of the
> > usage limitations governed by the MSDNAA License Amendment, and the
> > department should periodically remind students of those conditions.
> >
> > Graham: I'd trust MS's documentation over the policy of an individual
> > school.
>
> True, and thanks for that link Daniel, it will be useful. I just grabbed
> the first one in my search that fitted. I think the critical factor is
> that a user can only continue to use it as a learning tool. If the user
> is no longer an eligible user then it is unlikely that it is being used
> as a learning tool.... Of course being an advocate of Lifelong
> learning.... :)
>
> >
> > However, the terms of the MSDNAA do say you can't use the software for
> > commercial purposes. So James, if you're wanting to install windows to
> > have access to software you need for work, then this is still in
> > breach of the agreement.
> >
> > I think this thread is pretty well and truly done by now.
> >
>
> As much as anything it shows the mess that MS licensing policies cause.
>
> --
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