I have not so far been able to download the 4.3 gig DVD iso file after a number of attempts from various mirrors - I have not found any in New Zealand. Anyone have the iso? Professor Knopper has it seems removed systemd from Knoppix. "The still controversial startup systemd, which has been a little outrageous due to security vulnerabilities just recently <https://www.zdnet.com/article/new-linux-systemd-security-holes-uncovered/>, has been integrated in Debian since Jessie [8.0], and has been removed since Knoppix 8.5. I bypass hard dependencies on the boot system with my own packages. To still get a systemd-like session management, and thus retain the ability to shut down and restart the system as a normal user, I run the session manager "elogind" instead. This bypasses systemd's interference with many system components and reduces the complexity of the overall system. If you want to start your own services at startup, you do not need to create any systemd units, but simply enter them in the text file */etc/rc.local*, which contains explanatory examples."