There are many reasons that WLUG recommend Ubuntu as a distribution for new and experiences Linux users alike. The one I'd like to point out today is the excellent documentation that is available. http://help.ubuntu.com/ has PDF and HTML versions of guidebooks for the new 6.06 release, covering all variants (GNOME, KDE, XFCE), as well as Ubuntu Server and packaging. The documentation is available under the GNU Free Documentation License, so you can download it and print it yourself, as well as distribute it freely. A company called Lulu are making printed versions available by money-and-postage (http://www.lulu.com/ubuntu-doc), but I imagine shipping to New Zealand would be prohibitive. If enough people are interested, WLUG could investigate having some copies printed and bound, and made available to members at cost. Craig
Craig Box wrote:
There are many reasons that WLUG recommend Ubuntu as a distribution for new and experiences Linux users alike. The one I'd like to point out today is the excellent documentation that is available.
http://help.ubuntu.com/ has PDF and HTML versions of guidebooks for the new 6.06 release, covering all variants (GNOME, KDE, XFCE), as well as Ubuntu Server and packaging. The documentation is available under the GNU Free Documentation License, so you can download it and print it yourself, as well as distribute it freely.
A company called Lulu are making printed versions available by money-and-postage (http://www.lulu.com/ubuntu-doc), but I imagine shipping to New Zealand would be prohibitive. If enough people are interested, WLUG could investigate having some copies printed and bound, and made available to members at cost.
All of the links below, with the exception of the single page ubuntu start guide, are broken. Ubuntu * About Ubuntu * Quick Tour of Ubuntu * Ubuntu Start Guide (multiple pages) * Ubuntu Start Guide (single page) Kubuntu * About Kubuntu * Kubuntu Release Notes * Kubuntu Quick Guide Other * Documentation Team Styleguide Michael
All of the links below, with the exception of the single page ubuntu start guide, are broken.
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Then I can only surmise you are looking at the 'work in progress' list on doc.ubuntu.com? The help.ubuntu.com link above doesn't appear to list any of the things you have referenced. Craig
Craig Box wrote:
All of the links below, with the exception of the single page ubuntu start guide, are broken.
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Then I can only surmise you are looking at the 'work in progress' list on doc.ubuntu.com? The help.ubuntu.com link above doesn't appear to list any of the things you have referenced.
clear your cache maybe? I can give you a screen shot, I simply click the link in your email and presto.. I am at a page with those links that don't work.. Michael
On Tue, 6 Jun 2006, Michael J. Knox wrote:
Craig Box wrote:
All of the links below, with the exception of the single page ubuntu start guide, are broken.
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Then I can only surmise you are looking at the 'work in progress' list on doc.ubuntu.com? The help.ubuntu.com link above doesn't appear to list any of the things you have referenced.
clear your cache maybe? I can give you a screen shot, I simply click the link in your email and presto.. I am at a page with those links that don't work..
Could you say exactly what URL you are looking at ? http://help.ubuntu.com/ is what Craig posted a link to and everything linked off of that page works fine for me. I've never looked at them before so really doubt it's a caching problem thats making it work ! Jamie
Jamie Curtis wrote:
Could you say exactly what URL you are looking at ?
is what Craig posted a link to and everything linked off of that page works fine for me. I've never looked at them before so really doubt it's a caching problem thats making it work !
I never vist ubuntu's website, so I would not have thought that it was a cache issue for myself either. I posted screen shots I what I was seening. I clicked on your link above, and it seems I am seeing what I should be now. Michael
At 09:32 6/06/2006, you wrote:
All of the links below, with the exception of the single page ubuntu start guide, are broken.
Ubuntu <snip> Kubuntu <snip> Other
Michael, What on earth are you talking about? None of the links that you mentioned exist on the http://help.ubuntu.com/ page! Check my screenshot here => http://wlug.org.nz/~david/help.ubuntu.com.jpg Regards, _____________________________ David Hallett, BSc, MNZCS Managing Director Pulsar Computer Solutions Ltd P.O. Box 15-516, Hamilton, New Zealand Mob: +64-21-802 256 Fax: +64-7-846 3677 www.pulsar.net.nz
David Hallett wrote:
At 09:32 6/06/2006, you wrote:
All of the links below, with the exception of the single page ubuntu start guide, are broken.
Ubuntu <snip> Kubuntu <snip> Other
Michael,
What on earth are you talking about? None of the links that you mentioned exist on the http://help.ubuntu.com/ page!
And good morning to you too! Here are the screenshots of what I am seeing: http://www.knox.net.nz/~michael/doc.ubuntu.com.jpeg http://www.knox.net.nz/~michael/help.ubuntu.com.jpeg
Check my screenshot here => http://wlug.org.nz/~david/help.ubuntu.com.jpg
Nice, certainly not what I am seeing. Michael
Craig Box wrote:
http://help.ubuntu.com/ has PDF and HTML versions of guidebooks for the new 6.06 release, covering all variants (GNOME, KDE, XFCE), as well as Ubuntu Server and packaging. The documentation is available under the GNU Free Documentation License, so you can download it and print it yourself, as well as distribute it freely.
Tis nice documentation. Flows well. I was a little surpirsed that they coveraged converting rpms to debs. I would have thought that should be treated as a last resort and not something you want to tell newbies about off the bat.. I would imagine that a lot is not limited to just ubuntu (well, from what I have read over so far), so it could be a handy reference of anyone using Linux. Anyways. Nice work. Michael
Craig Box wrote:
There are many reasons that WLUG recommend Ubuntu as a distribution for new and experiences Linux users alike. The one I'd like to point out today is the excellent documentation that is available.
So? Both the distros of my choice, Slackware http://www.slackbook.org/ and FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ have had excellent documentation available for quite some time. I'm sure that other distros have similar documentation available too. regards, ********************************************* Dr Denise J. Bates, PO Box 50, Meremere New Zealand E-mail: dbates(a)iconz.co.nz Telephone 09-2336433 Mobile 021-2541330 *********************************************
So? Both the distros of my choice, Slackware http://www.slackbook.org/ and FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ have had excellent documentation available for quite some time. I'm sure that other distros have similar documentation available too.
I know that lots of people talk about the FreeBSD handbook being excellent; it appears to be real system-level stuff (there is a whole page on all three desktop environments). I'm not familiar with the Slackware book, although from a quick look it doesn't seem very desktop-user oriented, or up to date. I personally believe both of the distros of your choice (is FreeBSD technically a distro?) would be better choices for a far more advanced user. Craig
Denise Bates wrote:
Craig Box wrote:
There are many reasons that WLUG recommend Ubuntu as a distribution for new and experiences Linux users alike. The one I'd like to point out today is the excellent documentation that is available.
So? Both the distros of my choice, Slackware http://www.slackbook.org/ and FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ have had excellent documentation available for quite some time. I'm sure that other distros have similar documentation available too.
I agree... I wasn't going to bite, but since someone else did. Gentoo: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/index.xml Mandriva: http://www.mandriva.com/en/community/users/documentation RedHat: http://www.redhat.com/docs/ YellowDog: http://www.terrasoftsolutions.com/support/ And many more. A lot are available in PDF or HTML and are translated. Yes, the ubuntu documentation is good, but its not the only distribution that has good documentation. Michael
* Denise Bates <dbates(a)iconz.co.nz> [2006-06-06 06:35]:
Both the distros of my choice, Slackware http://www.slackbook.org/ and FreeBSD http://www.freebsd.org/doc/en_US.ISO8859-1/books/handbook/ have had excellent documentation available for quite some time.
Despite preferring the exact same distros, I can’t say I agree. The Slackbook is decent, if not very extensive, but deals only with system config and working on the shell. The FreeBSD docs (not just the handbook) are orders of magnitude more detailed, but they too only detail things at the same level. Make no mistake, they are very valuable to sysadmin-type folks. (Most of the other docs for other distros that someone else linked also seem to fall into this category.) The Ubuntu docs are very different, though, heavily GUI-oriented. They are stuff you’d give a Windows user who just wanted to use a pre-configured desktop system and doesn’t know how to find his or her way around a new desktop environment particularly well. As well, from what I can see, Ubuntu *doesn’t* have a particularly extensive manual of the FreeBSD handbook type that documents the system at the level of a sysadmin’s interest. (I guess you’d defer to the Debian manuals for that sort of stuff?) So the examples given are really kind of orthogonal to the Ubuntu manual. Regards, -- Aristotle Pagaltzis // <http://plasmasturm.org/>
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