On 8 Mar 01, at 14:10, Bruce Kingsbury wrote:

From the network side Linux can be made _very_ secure, but the default for most distributions is slightly less secure than a default 'doze install, and it's only luck and obscurity that has saved us so far, imho..

Tell me about it - Shields Up website informed me I had more open ports than Venice.

The problem is that the big distro makers have a default install where everything is enabled, including one or two well-known root-exploitable services. In this enviromnent viruses and worms are inevitable but we can make -our- boxes secure, and be sure that -we- never get them.

Right - all the more reason for modifying whatever distro we use when we configure the OS and apps for any machine we set up. Regards Jon Tocker ***There is no spoon*** ------------ WLUG - The Waikato Linux Users Group To unsubscribe, send an email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz with "unsubscribe wlug" in the body of the message.