http://news.com.com/2100-1025_3-6105970.html?part=rss&tag=6105970&subj=news I know you can get this already from some sources but this in theory is fully legal rather than obtaining from other countries... Hopefully it will be in a license that can be incorporated into other code so we don't just have to use helix but regardless is another step forward as is Java going more opensource which was also announced at Linux World. -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand