1/packet writing for cd 2/formating flash memory stick

Hi Can anyone help me here please. 1/ How do you do incremental writing to a cdrw under linux. I have a cdrw which was formated under windows .. used the INCDFS file system according to the properties report in wondows. With this I can then write, and delete files from the cd .. within windows .. as if it was a large floppy or removable hard disk. Under Fedora Core 4 the disk mounts ok and I can read the contents at anytime .. but I cannot do the incremental writing .. I have looked up linux references to this INCDFS using google and not found anything of significance. Any pointers to making cdrw work more adeptly would be appreciated. 2/ My 64Mb and 128 MB usb memory sticks mount fine under fedora core 4 and I can delete and write to the devices .. deleting I think puts the data into a trash directory .. but when I empty trash it does not seem to free space on the device .. also .. although ".Trash" appears when you mount it in Windows .. and you can delete the files and reclaim the space there .. .Trash does not appear in the Linux FS .. even using say mc which would normerly show ".--" directories . Also formating the flash memory does not seem straight forward .. I tried mounting with fdisk and deleting all partitions, making a siingle FAT32 partition .. then using format to format it .. unsuccessfully ... are there any tricks here? Formating under windows seems straight forward. Thanks Stephen

stephen pearce wrote:
2/ My 64Mb and 128 MB usb memory sticks mount fine under fedora core 4 and I can delete and write to the devices .. deleting I think puts the data into a trash directory .. but when I empty trash it does not seem to free space on the device .. also .. although ".Trash" appears when you mount it in Windows .. and you can delete the files and reclaim the space there .. .Trash does not appear in the Linux FS .. even using say mc which would normerly show ".--" directories .
If you're using Nautilus, use ctrl-H to show hidden files and folders. I gotta say, the idea of deleting files to a .Trash folder on removable storage is one of the more stupid notions that the Gnome developers came up with. Removable storage should be treated differently. That said, I nearly always use the commandline to do basic stuff like this. I find it a lot faster to cd to the USB drive and rm a file than to open Nautilus, navigate to the drive, hit delete, remember I gotta actually empty it from the trash to /really/ delete it, but that it isn't in my "normal" trash so I can't just go "Empty Trash", but rather have to show hidden folders and manually delete what's inside .Trash.
Also formating the flash memory does not seem straight forward .. I tried mounting with fdisk and deleting all partitions, making a siingle FAT32 partition .. then using format to format it .. unsuccessfully ... are there any tricks here? Formating under windows seems straight forward.
Have you tried mkfs? mkfs -t fat32 /dev/sda1 (or whatever node you're using) should, in theory, work. Read the manpage though, because I don't really know what I'm talking about (: Regards, Bnonn

On Thu, 2005-12-08 at 11:40 +1300, Bnonn wrote:
stephen pearce wrote:
2/ My 64Mb and 128 MB usb memory sticks mount fine under fedora core 4 and I can delete and write to the devices .. deleting I think puts the data into a trash directory .. but when I empty trash it does not seem to free space on the device .. also .. although ".Trash" appears when you mount it in Windows .. and you can delete the files and reclaim the space there .. .Trash does not appear in the Linux FS .. even using say mc which would normerly show ".--" directories .
If you're using Nautilus, use ctrl-H to show hidden files and folders. I gotta say, the idea of deleting files to a .Trash folder on removable storage is one of the more stupid notions that the Gnome developers came up with. Removable storage should be treated differently.
That said, I nearly always use the commandline to do basic stuff like this. I find it a lot faster to cd to the USB drive and rm a file than to open Nautilus, navigate to the drive, hit delete, remember I gotta actually empty it from the trash to /really/ delete it, but that it isn't in my "normal" trash so I can't just go "Empty Trash", but rather have to show hidden folders and manually delete what's inside .Trash. In fact, your "normal" trash folder contains all the .Trash folders on currently mounted disks. (They may be named .Trash-yourusername as well) I have no problems deleting stuff from my removable disks and then emptying the trash, although I would like a smarter way around the issue on flash drives. (You can actually add a 'delete bypassing trash' menu item - it's in the Nautilus prefs somewhere)
Alastair
Also formating the flash memory does not seem straight forward .. I tried mounting with fdisk and deleting all partitions, making a siingle FAT32 partition .. then using format to format it .. unsuccessfully ... are there any tricks here? Formating under windows seems straight forward.
Have you tried mkfs? mkfs -t fat32 /dev/sda1 (or whatever node you're using) should, in theory, work. Read the manpage though, because I don't really know what I'm talking about (:
Regards, Bnonn
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Alastair Porter
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stephen pearce