Be careful out there upgrading Ubuntu
I've seen quite a few reports recently about people upgrading to Feisty and breaking their systems. I've also had problems with the previews of Gibbon (7.10) and this has caused my system to break quite a bit, quite badly. (Multiple instances of not being able to use my GUI environment at all). I'm not trying to slag Ubuntu off - and it's probably only 1% of people having issues. Just remember with any upgrade that you should always have backups. This applies whether you use Windows or Linux or the Mac or whatever.. It's just that Linux upgrades a bit more often typically. I've written a bit about bugs recently on my blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz/2007/09/bugs-bugs-bugs.html Ian -- Web1: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/ Web2: http://www.jandi.co.nz Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz
On Mon, 2007-09-24 at 10:00 +1200, Ian McDonald wrote:
I've seen quite a few reports recently about people upgrading to Feisty and breaking their systems.
I'm a bit frustrated with Ubuntu at the moment. A while back they upgraded the nvidia-glx package so it uses a later driver. nvidia have dropped support for my MX400 chip, so the new driver doesn't work, and nvidia-glx-legacy is a really crufty old 7xxx driver that makes the card lock up twice a day. There's also an nvidia-new package now, which is an even more recent driver. I wish they'd either roll nvidia-glx back to the version just before nvidia dropped all of the MX4xx chips, or make an nvidia-glx-almostlegacy package. But they won't because the apparently the old nvidia drivers 'aren't supported' -- wth, the legacy 7xxx drivers ARE supported? nvidia don't really 'support' any of their drivers anyhow. Just give me a driver in a package that works, properly, and I don't have to manually reinstall after every kernel upgrade. Also when I run restricted drivers manager it offers me a choice of both current and legacy drivers. The obvious choice, the current driver, breaks my system. I filed a bug, they lumped it in with a 'duplicate' bug which was showing both drivers as being already installed. NO, that's not my bug! Read through my bug description before you jump to conclusions, please?
On 9/24/07, Bruce Kingsbury <zcat(a)wired.net.nz> wrote:
On Mon, 2007-09-24 at 10:00 +1200, Ian McDonald wrote:
I've seen quite a few reports recently about people upgrading to Feisty and breaking their systems.
I'm a bit frustrated with Ubuntu at the moment. A while back they upgraded the nvidia-glx package so it uses a later driver. nvidia have dropped support for my MX400 chip, so the new driver doesn't work, and nvidia-glx-legacy is a really crufty old 7xxx driver that makes the card lock up twice a day.
Your frustration should probably be aimed at Nvidia which refuses to release open source packages. The binary packages are tied to certain versions of the kernel so if they upgrade the kernel they have to go to newer nvidia drivers. Yet another reason to support Intel and now AMD/ATI. Have you had a look at the open source drivers. It probably doesn't meet your needs yet but is making progress independent of the Nvidia company http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/
Also when I run restricted drivers manager it offers me a choice of both current and legacy drivers. The obvious choice, the current driver, breaks my system. I filed a bug, they lumped it in with a 'duplicate' bug which was showing both drivers as being already installed. NO, that's not my bug! Read through my bug description before you jump to conclusions, please?
The bug triagers are only human too. It's a thankless (and boring) task managing bug databases. Have you replied to say it's not the same bug? Hopefully then they'll unmerge it. Ian -- Web1: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/ Web2: http://www.jandi.co.nz Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz
On 9/24/07, Ian McDonald <ian.mcdonald(a)jandi.co.nz> wrote:
I've seen quite a few reports recently about people upgrading to Feisty and breaking their systems.
I've also had problems with the previews of Gibbon (7.10) and this has caused my system to break quite a bit, quite badly. (Multiple instances of not being able to use my GUI environment at all).
I'm not trying to slag Ubuntu off - and it's probably only 1% of people having issues. Just remember with any upgrade that you should always have backups. This applies whether you use Windows or Linux or the Mac or whatever.. It's just that Linux upgrades a bit more often typically.
I've written a bit about bugs recently on my blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz/2007/09/bugs-bugs-bugs.html
And it seems like I'm not the only one complaining: The Degrading Quality Of X.Org Releases? http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=NjA3Mg -- Web1: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/ Web2: http://www.jandi.co.nz Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz
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