
Did anyone else notice the Microsoft advertisement placed in yesterdays Waikato Times (Wed, Aug 29, page 8)? It was basically a PR piece lobbying Standards NZ to accept Open XML as an ISO standard, disguised as an open letter to all New Zealanders. Using such emotive headings as, "Protecting our heritage, our future....", and "This is about much more than technology - it is about New Zealand", it also gives these bullet points: - Protect our heritage - Provide choice - Secure our future - Foster innovation - Give confidence I'm surprised they didn't continue with the following: - Cures global warming - Ends world hunger - Saves the whales ;P There's been quite a bit of coverage of this on the usual tech sites, but here's one that popped up this morning for me: Linux Foundation Urges 'No' Vote On Microsoft's Open XML Format http://www.informationweek.com/news/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=201803012 "Microsoft Office's Open XML or OOXML is the default file format for documents built and used by Office applications. The Linux Foundation says the format "is specific to Windows and other Microsoft products," it relies on references to "many Microsoft proprietary specifications" that are not publicly available and it is uncertain whether Open XML "can be used with other operating systems, like Linux."" For the pro-Open XML lobby group: http://www.openxmlcommunity.org/ Given Microsofts history of "embrace and extend" when it comes to standards, is there an expectation that they will behave differently this time? If you feel so inclined, you could send Standards NZ an email with your views on the matter: http://www.standards.co.nz/about/contact-us/default.htm Cheers Shannon

On 8/30/07, Shannon Skinner <shannonsnz(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Did anyone else notice the Microsoft advertisement placed in yesterdays Waikato Times (Wed, Aug 29, page 8)?
Also in the NZ Herald. Copy of ad is at http://it.gen.nz/ooxml/msnzopenletter.pdf This is some of the most blatant lobbying I've seen and they don't come out looking good out of it. You could use much the same arguments for ODF and it is already a standard. There's an article in today's Herald about it also: http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/story.cfm?c_id=5&objectid=10460591 Ian -- Web1: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/ Web2: http://www.jandi.co.nz Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

On 30/08/2007, Shannon Skinner <shannonsnz(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Did anyone else notice the Microsoft advertisement placed in yesterdays Waikato Times (Wed, Aug 29, page 8)?
Yes. There has been a lot of discussion on NZOSS-OpenChat. Defining standards is one thing. I've got nothing against that. The ODF standard already exists. Whether or not another is needed is a moot point. Some of the problems I see are:- Spreadsheets do not store dates. Linking a cell to a format to say that it is a date is tenuous at best. That format can be changed at any time and there is no guarantee that the cell was ever entered as a date. Excel is well-known for its errors in date-handling. 1st March is a Thursday, and the previous day, 28 February, is a Tuesday. And so on. In addition, I believe the function CEILING does not behave as per accepted mathematical standards (rounds away from 0 instead of next higher integer). I don't want to see errors perpetuated in a standard. One article that criticises the proposed standard is http://www.arstdesign.com/articles/OOXML-is-defective-by-design.html Michael
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