
Hi everyone I hope everyone had a good break and enjoyed the lovely muggy weather in the Waikato... ;-) Unfortunately, I didn't get around to looking into home automation over the break, so currently drawing a blank in terms of topics for next week's meeting. Did you work on a little Linux or open-source related project and feel like sharing? Then please let me know! Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann Dept. of Computer Science University of Waikato, NZ +64 (7) 858-5174 http://www.cms.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ http://www.data-mining.co.nz/

'What I missed out on by not attending lca2018'. Live streaming from Monday. Cheers, William. On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 2:00 PM, Peter Reutemann <fracpete(a)waikato.ac.nz> wrote:
Hi everyone
I hope everyone had a good break and enjoyed the lovely muggy weather in the Waikato... ;-)
Unfortunately, I didn't get around to looking into home automation over the break, so currently drawing a blank in terms of topics for next week's meeting.
Did you work on a little Linux or open-source related project and feel like sharing? Then please let me know!
Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann Dept. of Computer Science University of Waikato, NZ +64 (7) 858-5174 http://www.cms.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ http://www.data-mining.co.nz/ _______________________________________________ wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Unsubscribe: https://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Hi Peter, For the Wlug meeting I wondered about the idea of everyone brings along what they can remember of newspaper articles they have read in the last three months on either: 1. The CPU chip vulnerabilities 'Meltdown' and 'Spectre'. I think Lawrence might be in the best position to sort the newspaper stories in fact an C.T., and explain whats going on. Cryptocurrencies. 23 Oct 2017 ________________________________ From: wlug-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz <wlug-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> on behalf of Peter Reutemann <fracpete(a)waikato.ac.nz> Sent: Tuesday, 16 January 2018 4:00 p.m. To: wlug List Subject: [wlug] meeting ideas? Hi everyone I hope everyone had a good break and enjoyed the lovely muggy weather in the Waikato... ;-) Unfortunately, I didn't get around to looking into home automation over the break, so currently drawing a blank in terms of topics for next week's meeting. Did you work on a little Linux or open-source related project and feel like sharing? Then please let me know! Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann Dept. of Computer Science University of Waikato, NZ +64 (7) 858-5174 http://www.cms.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ home<http://www.cms.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/> www.cms.waikato.ac.nz Open-source advocate and programmer by heart, specialized in workflow engines, machine learning and data mining. professional Day-to-day [adams] [ml] [mooc] Reviewer [jmlr/mloss] Programme committe http://www.data-mining.co.nz/ Data Mining : University of Waikato<http://www.data-mining.co.nz/> www.data-mining.co.nz The University of Waikato is the home of several open-source software packages for data mining: WEKA - batch learning (preprocessing, classification, regression ... _______________________________________________ wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Unsubscribe: https://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

Hi Folks, Sorry about the last e-mail. I was intending to write just to Peter, but I ended up sending my half finished e-mail out to the wlug distribtion list. Seeing as you've now seen half my e-mail, I might as well send out the whole mail, which is a suggestion for next Monday nights meeting. All feedback other suggestions for meeting topics are welcome. cheers, Ian. Hi Peter, For the Wlug meeting I wondered about the idea of everyone brings along what they can remember of newspaper articles they have read in the last three months on either: The CPU chip vulnerabilities 'Meltdown' and 'Spectre'. I think Lawrence might be in the best position to sort the newspaper stories into what is fact and what is C.T.; and explain what's going on / how it impacts Linux. Cryptocurrencies. I normally check out The Guardian for general news. These days it seems to have a Cryptocurrency story every couple of days. Some are quite hard to comprehend, like capital gains of 35,000% in one year and mining coins using more power than the USA consumes by 2020. Maybe other people are reading similar stories. I'd say Cryptocurrency is 99% linux? Unfortunately I didn't make it to the last Cryptocurrency presentation a couple of years ago so I don't know what was covered. Maybe we could demo downloading and installing a wallet. cheers, Ian.

On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 19:59:35 +0000, Ian Stewart wrote:
The CPU chip vulnerabilities 'Meltdown' and 'Spectre'. I think Lawrence might be in the best position to sort the newspaper stories into what is fact and what is C.T.; and explain what's going on / how it impacts Linux.
Not sure what “C.T.” stands for, but if there are any inaccuracies in the company statements in particular, they are in their attempts to downplay what is turning out to be a very serious headache for the entire computing industry.

Hi Lawrence, I should have written "what is fact and what is fiction", but thought that what the media may be presenting is "what is fact and what is conspiracy theories" (C.T.) cheers, Ian. ________________________________ From: wlug-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz <wlug-bounces(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> on behalf of Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo(a)geek-central.gen.nz> Sent: Wednesday, 17 January 2018 10:46 a.m. To: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Subject: Re: [wlug] meeting ideas? On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 19:59:35 +0000, Ian Stewart wrote:
The CPU chip vulnerabilities 'Meltdown' and 'Spectre'. I think Lawrence might be in the best position to sort the newspaper stories into what is fact and what is C.T.; and explain what's going on / how it impacts Linux.
Not sure what “C.T.” stands for, but if there are any inaccuracies in the company statements in particular, they are in their attempts to downplay what is turning out to be a very serious headache for the entire computing industry. _______________________________________________ wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Unsubscribe: https://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 07:40:19PM +0000, Ian Stewart wrote:
For the Wlug meeting I wondered about the idea of everyone brings along what they can remember of newspaper articles they have read in the last three months on either:
1. The CPU chip vulnerabilities 'Meltdown' and 'Spectre'. I think Lawrence might be in the best position to sort the newspaper stories in fact an C.T., and explain whats going on.
I could give a talk on Meltdown and Spectra along the lines of: - How these vulnerabilities are fundamentally different to all previous vulnerabilities. - A bit of CPU development history and architecture that answers what it is about CPUs that make them so vulnerable and some clues as to how the hell did we get to the point where we discover that modern CPUs are so vulnerable to attack. - A demonstration of a cache attack with the Spectre proof of concept code and the Meltdown exploit. - Some hints as to mitigation and what might be the best lines of defence for users of Linux. Cheers Michael.

For the Wlug meeting I wondered about the idea of everyone brings along what they can remember of newspaper articles they have read in the last three months on either:
1. The CPU chip vulnerabilities 'Meltdown' and 'Spectre'. I think Lawrence might be in the best position to sort the newspaper stories in fact an C.T., and explain whats going on.
I could give a talk on Meltdown and Spectra along the lines of:
- How these vulnerabilities are fundamentally different to all previous vulnerabilities.
- A bit of CPU development history and architecture that answers what it is about CPUs that make them so vulnerable and some clues as to how the hell did we get to the point where we discover that modern CPUs are so vulnerable to attack.
- A demonstration of a cache attack with the Spectre proof of concept code and the Meltdown exploit.
- Some hints as to mitigation and what might be the best lines of defence for users of Linux.
Thanks for all the input, everyone. I propose to let Michael (Cree) start with a short talk that he outlined above, followed by a discussion. After that (and time permitting), we could watch a talk from lca2018, one that Michael Mckee proposes. Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann Dept. of Computer Science University of Waikato, NZ +64 (7) 858-5174 http://www.cms.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ http://www.data-mining.co.nz/
participants (5)
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Ian Stewart
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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Michael Cree
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Peter Reutemann
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William Mckee