http://linuxmint.com/ A little while ago, there was a bit of lament about the lack of dial up modem support for modern distros. I downloaded the latest iso for Linux Mint KDE edition a week or so and was suprised to find that it has KPPP installed by default. Just wondering if linuxmint might be a better option for those without ADSL access. To be fair, I didn't actually try the modem since I was just running the live CD of a USB stick. Cheers, Chris
On 20 August 2010 14:50, Chris O'Halloran <cmoman(a)gmail.com> wrote:
http://linuxmint.com/ A little while ago, there was a bit of lament about the lack of dial up modem support for modern distros. I downloaded the latest iso for Linux Mint KDE edition a week or so and was suprised to find that it has KPPP installed by default. Just wondering if linuxmint might be a better option for those without ADSL access.
Thanks for those comments Chris. Were you trying an internal or external modem? Lighthouse Pup seems to be the best live CD distro I've used that is likely to run with an internal modem, but lacks the full function applications - which gives you the confidence to know that you should be able to make any other distro work eventually. I managed to get dialup going by installing Suse 11.3 from a downloaded CD - but had to download some more files from the Internet to install the dialup software. Graham suggested that those files are on the install DVD. As you will have noticed, Slingshot is a "different story" when it comes to dialup. Never found out why the connection failed whereas it was fine with Xtra - and both were fine under Windows. Michael
I'll give it another go and see if my laptop internal modem goes with it. I'll sure an external modem would be fine. Cheers, Chris On 20 August 2010 15:17, Michael McDonald <mikencolleen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 20 August 2010 14:50, Chris O'Halloran <cmoman(a)gmail.com> wrote:
http://linuxmint.com/ A little while ago, there was a bit of lament about the lack of dial up modem support for modern distros. I downloaded the latest iso for Linux Mint KDE edition a week or so and was suprised to find that it has KPPP installed by default. Just wondering if linuxmint might be a better option for those without ADSL access.
Thanks for those comments Chris. Were you trying an internal or external modem? Lighthouse Pup seems to be the best live CD distro I've used that is likely to run with an internal modem, but lacks the full function applications - which gives you the confidence to know that you should be able to make any other distro work eventually.
I managed to get dialup going by installing Suse 11.3 from a downloaded CD - but had to download some more files from the Internet to install the dialup software. Graham suggested that those files are on the install DVD.
As you will have noticed, Slingshot is a "different story" when it comes to dialup. Never found out why the connection failed whereas it was fine with Xtra - and both were fine under Windows.
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On Friday 20 Aug 2010 15:28:31 Chris O'Halloran wrote:
I'll give it another go and see if my laptop internal modem goes with it.
I'll sure an external modem would be fine.
Cheers,
Chris
The dialup support seems to be KDE thing. From doing a little research the distros that install KDE have the dialup support. Ironically, the best way to get Gnome dialup support is to install KDE. I managed to get dialup working in Ubuntu but I had to run the dialer as root from a terminal... sorry sudo. ;) Don't hold out much hope for your laptop modem, invariably they're winmodems Cheers GL
On 20 August 2010 15:17, Michael McDonald <mikencolleen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 20 August 2010 14:50, Chris O'Halloran <cmoman(a)gmail.com> wrote:
http://linuxmint.com/ A little while ago, there was a bit of lament about the lack of dial up modem support for modern distros. I downloaded the latest iso for Linux Mint KDE edition a week or so and was suprised to find that it has KPPP installed by default. Just wondering if linuxmint might be a better option for those without ADSL access.
Thanks for those comments Chris. Were you trying an internal or external modem? Lighthouse Pup seems to be the best live CD distro I've used that is likely to run with an internal modem, but lacks the full function applications - which gives you the confidence to know that you should be able to make any other distro work eventually.
I managed to get dialup going by installing Suse 11.3 from a downloaded CD - but had to download some more files from the Internet to install the dialup software. Graham suggested that those files are on the install DVD.
As you will have noticed, Slingshot is a "different story" when it comes to dialup. Never found out why the connection failed whereas it was fine with Xtra - and both were fine under Windows.
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The last few laptops I've installed have not been a problem. Ubuntu restricted drivers dialog pops up, I tick the box, it installs the drivers. I presume the modem works after that, I don't have a normal prone line or a working dialup account to test it with... On 20 August 2010 19:39, Graham Lauder <yorick_(a)openoffice.org> wrote:
On Friday 20 Aug 2010 15:28:31 Chris O'Halloran wrote:
I'll give it another go and see if my laptop internal modem goes with it.
I'll sure an external modem would be fine.
Cheers,
Chris
The dialup support seems to be KDE thing. From doing a little research the distros that install KDE have the dialup support. Ironically, the best way to get Gnome dialup support is to install KDE. I managed to get dialup working in Ubuntu but I had to run the dialer as root from a terminal... sorry sudo. ;)
Don't hold out much hope for your laptop modem, invariably they're winmodems
Cheers GL
On 20 August 2010 15:17, Michael McDonald <mikencolleen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 20 August 2010 14:50, Chris O'Halloran <cmoman(a)gmail.com> wrote:
http://linuxmint.com/ A little while ago, there was a bit of lament about the lack of dial up modem support for modern distros. I downloaded the latest iso for Linux Mint KDE edition a week or so and was suprised to find that it has KPPP installed by default. Just wondering if linuxmint might be a better option for those without ADSL access.
Thanks for those comments Chris. Were you trying an internal or external modem? Lighthouse Pup seems to be the best live CD distro I've used that is likely to run with an internal modem, but lacks the full function applications - which gives you the confidence to know that you should be able to make any other distro work eventually.
I managed to get dialup going by installing Suse 11.3 from a downloaded CD - but had to download some more files from the Internet to install the dialup software. Graham suggested that those files are on the install DVD.
As you will have noticed, Slingshot is a "different story" when it comes to dialup. Never found out why the connection failed whereas it was fine with Xtra - and both were fine under Windows.
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On Friday 20 Aug 2010 21:09:03 Bruce Kingsbury wrote:
The last few laptops I've installed have not been a problem. Ubuntu restricted drivers dialog pops up, I tick the box, it installs the drivers. I presume the modem works after that, I don't have a normal prone line or a working dialup account to test it with...
I don't have a prone line either, mine stands up... :D I'd be bloody rapt to get mine working. Have you tried it on a T60 Thinkpad? Looks like I might have to come to a fixit day. Cheers G
On 20 August 2010 19:39, Graham Lauder <yorick_(a)openoffice.org> wrote:
On Friday 20 Aug 2010 15:28:31 Chris O'Halloran wrote:
I'll give it another go and see if my laptop internal modem goes with it.
I'll sure an external modem would be fine.
Cheers,
Chris
The dialup support seems to be KDE thing. From doing a little research the distros that install KDE have the dialup support. Ironically, the best way to get Gnome dialup support is to install KDE. I managed to get dialup working in Ubuntu but I had to run the dialer as root from a terminal... sorry sudo. ;)
Don't hold out much hope for your laptop modem, invariably they're winmodems
Cheers GL
On 20 August 2010 15:17, Michael McDonald <mikencolleen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 20 August 2010 14:50, Chris O'Halloran <cmoman(a)gmail.com> wrote:
http://linuxmint.com/ A little while ago, there was a bit of lament about the lack of dial up modem support for modern distros. I downloaded the latest iso for Linux Mint KDE edition a week or so and was suprised to find that it has KPPP installed by default. Just wondering if linuxmint might be a better option for those without ADSL access.
Thanks for those comments Chris. Were you trying an internal or external modem? Lighthouse Pup seems to be the best live CD distro I've used that is likely to run with an internal modem, but lacks the full function applications - which gives you the confidence to know that you should be able to make any other distro work eventually.
I managed to get dialup going by installing Suse 11.3 from a downloaded CD - but had to download some more files from the Internet to install the dialup software. Graham suggested that those files are on the install DVD.
As you will have noticed, Slingshot is a "different story" when it comes to dialup. Never found out why the connection failed whereas it was fine with Xtra - and both were fine under Windows.
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On 20 August 2010 22:00, Graham Lauder <yorick_(a)openoffice.org> wrote:
On Friday 20 Aug 2010 21:09:03 Bruce Kingsbury wrote:
The last few laptops I've installed have not been a problem. Ubuntu restricted drivers dialog pops up, I tick the box, it installs the drivers. I presume the modem works after that, I don't have a normal prone line or a working dialup account to test it with...
I don't have a prone line either, mine stands up... :D
I'd be bloody rapt to get mine working. Have you tried it on a T60 Thinkpad?
Looks like I might have to come to a fixit day.
Thinkpads are usually the easiest, but apparently you need the non-free (non-libre and non-gratis) "linuxant" drivers for that one. The same modem as the T42.. http://learn.clemsonlinux.org/wiki/Laptops:IBM_Thinkpad_T42#Modem BTW I have an OOo question for you... I have a friend who's very good at remembering to save documents, but not so thorough about closing all the OOo windows before shutting down or rebooting, and he's finding autosave to be more trouble than it's worth. But making it go away turns out to be not so easy. There's an option to turn off "save autorecovery information", but after a crash OOo still wants to recover whatever files were open (which makes no sense when autorecovery information isn't being saved). There's also a --norecover option you can give OOo to stop it trying to recover after a crash, but it's a real pain editing every menu shortcut and file association so that OOo never tries to do the autorecover thing. I think it would make a lot more sense for OOo to just do the --norecover thing any time it sees that the "don't save" option is set... because it already knows there won't be anything there to recover. How do I get someone at SunOracle to take a look at this?
On Friday 20 Aug 2010 23:24:06 Bruce Kingsbury wrote:
On 20 August 2010 22:00, Graham Lauder <yorick_(a)openoffice.org> wrote:
On Friday 20 Aug 2010 21:09:03 Bruce Kingsbury wrote:
The last few laptops I've installed have not been a problem. Ubuntu restricted drivers dialog pops up, I tick the box, it installs the drivers. I presume the modem works after that, I don't have a normal prone line or a working dialup account to test it with...
I don't have a prone line either, mine stands up... :D
I'd be bloody rapt to get mine working. Have you tried it on a T60 Thinkpad?
Looks like I might have to come to a fixit day.
Thinkpads are usually the easiest, but apparently you need the non-free (non-libre and non-gratis) "linuxant" drivers for that one. The same modem as the T42..
http://learn.clemsonlinux.org/wiki/Laptops:IBM_Thinkpad_T42#Modem
BTW I have an OOo question for you...
I have a friend who's very good at remembering to save documents, but not so thorough about closing all the OOo windows before shutting down or rebooting, and he's finding autosave to be more trouble than it's worth. But making it go away turns out to be not so easy.
There's an option to turn off "save autorecovery information", but after a crash OOo still wants to recover whatever files were open (which makes no sense when autorecovery information isn't being saved). There's also a --norecover option you can give OOo to stop it trying to recover after a crash, but it's a real pain editing every menu shortcut and file association so that OOo never tries to do the autorecover thing. I think it would make a lot more sense for OOo to just do the --norecover thing any time it sees that the "don't save" option is set... because it already knows there won't be anything there to recover.
How do I get someone at SunOracle to take a look at this?
If it's an ubuntu install then it's based on the Novell version: http://www.go-oo.org. It would be swifter into the upstream version as well, because of that. I would have thought that it would be a fairly easy patch given that the -norestore function is already in there. I might have to do some research on that. Cheers GL
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