I started with computers in 1980. DOS was an infant at the time. I started to develop software at the time using Basic, progressed to QuickBasic and now VisualBasic. About four years ago, I put a version of Mandrake Linux on a Windows ME computer. Every knows that ME was a 'virus' of a system. About a month after putting a Linux partition on it, I got a warning that an error had occurred in Linux which could destroy my Windows partition. This had happened several times before and nothing happened when I told it to continue. Bad move. It destroyed my HDD entirely. Since then my wife has said no more Linux on your computers. I recently hunted for a LIVE CD version of Linux and now have two. Mandrake Move - which looks really good, and Ubuntu Live, which is also great, but can access the HDD and has already changed my screen setting from 75hz to 60 and I cant change it back. I think I'll go with the Mandrake - but - I cant get it to recognize my 56k internal Modem now my USB printer. It wont write to the USB memory stick either although it has located it. Someone gave me some instructions for finding my modem, but I'm afraid I was too 'green' to go into action. I'm going to need a 'pictured painted' for me on this. However, if I cant get the setting written to the memory stick, what is the point in trying to use the system? I will have to put in my system and internet settings each time it loads. Not practical! Where do I start? Linz -- Our website has changed slightly. new URL is www.geocities.com/judenlinz Phone nz07-896-8826
Judy & Lindsay Roberts wrote:
I started with computers in 1980. DOS was an infant at the time. I started to develop software at the time using Basic, progressed to QuickBasic and now VisualBasic.
About four years ago, I put a version of Mandrake Linux on a Windows ME computer. Every knows that ME was a 'virus' of a system. About a month after putting a Linux partition on it, I got a warning that an error had occurred in Linux which could destroy my Windows partition. This had happened several times before and nothing happened when I told it to continue. Bad move. It destroyed my HDD entirely. Since then my wife has said no more Linux on your computers.
I recently hunted for a LIVE CD version of Linux and now have two. Mandrake Move - which looks really good, and Ubuntu Live, which is also great, but can access the HDD and has already changed my screen setting from 75hz to 60 and I cant change it back.
I think I'll go with the Mandrake - but - I cant get it to recognize my 56k internal Modem now my USB printer. It wont write to the USB memory stick either although it has located it. Someone gave me some instructions for finding my modem, but I'm afraid I was too 'green' to go into action. I'm going to need a 'pictured painted' for me on this. However, if I cant get the setting written to the memory stick, what is the point in trying to use the system? I will have to put in my system and internet settings each time it loads. Not practical!
Where do I start? Linz
Well I'm only four years with Linux also and allocated WinMe to the slave HDD after having partitioned that HDD enough with Mandrake9.1. I am now running Mandrake 10 Official on the primary HDD and when needed can boot into WinMe. For you to either partition your existing HDD to take both Mandrake and WinMe you need to install the one using the 2.6.3-7 kernel to recognize your memory stick efficiently. ( I assume you are using a USB type stick?) When using the LiveCD only you may need to access your memstick as root. Try the following: - ( having booted with the memstick installed ) within the command console.[ konsole ] : $ su Password: # cd /mnt # ls -al At this point you ought to see an entry something like " removable " with owner and group being " root:root " If not then your livecd might be only the 2.4.x kernel variety and we will need to approach things differently. Go this far and let us know what you have found. You might want to try the following as well and post here the answer: # lsusb Depending on you configuration there are many ways to proceed and I would care to find the one that most suits your needs. Another point, you ought to be able to copy files, save files, to the hard drive without changing it in any way. Simply open a Folder somewhere within your windows system and save things directly to that. Your windows system ought to show up within the /mnt directory and be listed with the above mentioned command also. [ Let us know if you have problems mounting the windows ' partition ' . One last thing for now, to prepare to get the modem working do a search for [ from within windows is fine as you will need to download a file ] " scanmodem " . Along the way you will discover www.linmodems.org - please join the mailing list and download the scanmodem file and save it onto your harddrive - possibly within the same folder you ought to create for your linux stuff. Lets get your system working! -- Regards SnapafunFrank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213
I have printed out the below to try and follow.
Well I'm only four years with Linux also and allocated WinMe to the slave HDD after having partitioned that HDD enough with Mandrake9.1.
I am now running Mandrake 10 Official on the primary HDD and when needed can boot into WinMe.
For you to either partition your existing HDD to take both Mandrake and WinMe you need to install the one using the 2.6.3-7 kernel to recognize your memory stick efficiently. ( I assume you are using a USB type stick?)
When using the LiveCD only you may need to access your memstick as root. Try the following: - ( having booted with the memstick installed ) within the command console.[ konsole ] :
$ su Password: # cd /mnt # ls -al At this point you ought to see an entry something like " removable " with owner and group being " root:root " If not then your livecd might be only the 2.4.x kernel variety and we will need to approach things differently.
Ok. I find a program on Madrake Move called Konsole. and I type in the above (including the $ and #?)
Go this far and let us know what you have found. You might want to try the following as well and post here the answer:
# lsusb
Then I do the same here - right?
Depending on you configuration there are many ways to proceed and I would care to find the one that most suits your needs.
Another point, you ought to be able to copy files, save files, to the hard drive without changing it in any way. Simply open a Folder somewhere within your windows system and save things directly to that. Your windows system ought to show up within the /mnt directory and be listed with the above mentioned command also. [ Let us know if you have problems mounting the windows ' partition ' .
Mandrake Move is not supposed to be able to access the HDD, as I understand.
One last thing for now, to prepare to get the modem working do a search for [ from within windows is fine as you will need to download a file ] " scanmodem " . Along the way you will discover www.linmodems.org - please join the mailing list and download the scanmodem file and save it onto your harddrive - possibly within the same folder you ought to create for your linux stuff.
Lets get your system working!
-- Our website has changed slightly. new URL is www.geocities.com/judenlinz Phone nz07-896-8826
Judy & Lindsay Roberts wrote:
I have printed out the below to try and follow.
Well I'm only four years with Linux also and allocated WinMe to the slave HDD after having partitioned that HDD enough with Mandrake9.1.
I am now running Mandrake 10 Official on the primary HDD and when needed can boot into WinMe.
For you to either partition your existing HDD to take both Mandrake and WinMe you need to install the one using the 2.6.3-7 kernel to recognize your memory stick efficiently. ( I assume you are using a USB type stick?)
When using the LiveCD only you may need to access your memstick as root. Try the following: - ( having booted with the memstick installed ) within the command console.[ konsole ] :
$ su Password: # cd /mnt # ls -al At this point you ought to see an entry something like " removable " with owner and group being " root:root " If not then your livecd might be only the 2.4.x kernel variety and we will need to approach things differently.
Ok. I find a program on Madrake Move called Konsole. and I type in the above (including the $ and #?)
WHOA! Back up a little and please forgive me for assuming things not checked out. When you open a console the ' $ ' at the prompt indicates that you are in user mode and the ' # ' at the prompt indicates that you are issuing commands as " Administrator" or as we say here: as " / ' or " root ". To get from User to Root you need to issue the command ' su ' [ stands for superuser ] and upon typing the administrators password and pressing <Enter> your prompt should change to the ' # ' symbol. For the commands I have suggested you try, being superuser is OK but do be careful with this as as /root you can do heaps of damage up to and including frying your whole system. So now you understand how we write our command suggestions for you to follow if you wish to. For now please read my other replies below.
Go this far and let us know what you have found. You might want to try the following as well and post here the answer:
# lsusb
Then I do the same here - right?
Depending on you configuration there are many ways to proceed and I would care to find the one that most suits your needs.
Another point, you ought to be able to copy files, save files, to the hard drive without changing it in any way. Simply open a Folder somewhere within your windows system and save things directly to that. Your windows system ought to show up within the /mnt directory and be listed with the above mentioned command also. [ Let us know if you have problems mounting the windows ' partition ' .
Mandrake Move is not supposed to be able to access the HDD, as I understand.
Not quite correct, though you need to know how to do this. It would be pointless using a LiveCD to recover things from the harddrive if you could not actually mount it in the first place. For now do only this one thing for me: With the LiveCD up and running, open the File Manager ( "Start" - " Quick Browser " - " Root " - " mnt" - " win_c2 " ) and see if you recognize any folders within that. ( 'win_c2' is what is on my system so look for something similar on your LiveCD Action list.) Please report back here whether or not you were able to see anything on the hard drive and if so were you able to open and view the contents of any safe file you recognized there?
One last thing for now, to prepare to get the modem working do a search for [ from within windows is fine as you will need to download a file ] " scanmodem " . Along the way you will discover www.linmodems.org - please join the mailing list and download the scanmodem file and save it onto your harddrive - possibly within the same folder you ought to create for your linux stuff.
Still do this within windows. Please help us later by making a new folder on your Desktop while within windows and lets call it " LinuxOS " just for fun. Download scanmodem.tar.gz and put it within this new folder. ( NB: Select your own name for the folder if you wish but be warned now, Linux, unlike windows, uses upper and lower case, so please report the name of the folder precisely.) Back to you for now. -- Regards SnapafunFrank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213
SnapafunFrank wrote:
Judy & Lindsay Roberts wrote:
I have printed out the below to try and follow.
Well I'm only four years with Linux also and allocated WinMe to the slave HDD after having partitioned that HDD enough with Mandrake9.1.
I am now running Mandrake 10 Official on the primary HDD and when needed can boot into WinMe.
For you to either partition your existing HDD to take both Mandrake and WinMe you need to install the one using the 2.6.3-7 kernel to recognize your memory stick efficiently. ( I assume you are using a USB type stick?)
When using the LiveCD only you may need to access your memstick as root. Try the following: - ( having booted with the memstick installed ) within the command console.[ konsole ] :
$ su Password: # cd /mnt # ls -al At this point you ought to see an entry something like " removable " with owner and group being " root:root " If not then your livecd might be only the 2.4.x kernel variety and we will need to approach things differently.
Ok. I find a program on Madrake Move called Konsole. and I type in the above (including the $ and #?)
WHOA! Back up a little and please forgive me for assuming things not checked out.
When you open a console the ' $ ' at the prompt indicates that you are in user mode and the ' # ' at the prompt indicates that you are issuing commands as " Administrator" or as we say here: as " / ' or " root ". To get from User to Root you need to issue the command ' su ' [ stands for superuser ] and upon typing the administrators password and pressing <Enter> your prompt should change to the ' # ' symbol. For the commands I have suggested you try, being superuser is OK but do be careful with this as as /root you can do heaps of damage up to and including frying your whole system.
So now you understand how we write our command suggestions for you to follow if you wish to. For now please read my other replies below.
Go this far and let us know what you have found. You might want to try the following as well and post here the answer:
# lsusb
Then I do the same here - right?
Depending on you configuration there are many ways to proceed and I would care to find the one that most suits your needs.
Another point, you ought to be able to copy files, save files, to the hard drive without changing it in any way. Simply open a Folder somewhere within your windows system and save things directly to that. Your windows system ought to show up within the /mnt directory and be listed with the above mentioned command also. [ Let us know if you have problems mounting the windows ' partition ' .
Mandrake Move is not supposed to be able to access the HDD, as I understand.
Not quite correct, though you need to know how to do this. It would be pointless using a LiveCD to recover things from the harddrive if you could not actually mount it in the first place. For now do only this one thing for me:
With the LiveCD up and running, open the File Manager ( "Start" - " Quick Browser " - " Root " - " mnt" - " win_c2 " ) and see if you recognize any folders within that. ( 'win_c2' is what is on my system so look for something similar on your LiveCD Action list.) Please report back here whether or not you were able to see anything on the hard drive and if so were you able to open and view the contents of any safe file you recognized there?
One last thing for now, to prepare to get the modem working do a search for [ from within windows is fine as you will need to download a file ] " scanmodem " . Along the way you will discover www.linmodems.org - please join the mailing list and download the scanmodem file and save it onto your harddrive - possibly within the same folder you ought to create for your linux stuff.
Still do this within windows. Please help us later by making a new folder on your Desktop while within windows and lets call it " LinuxOS " just for fun. Download scanmodem.tar.gz and put it within this new folder. ( NB: Select your own name for the folder if you wish but be warned now, Linux, unlike windows, uses upper and lower case, so please report the name of the folder precisely.)
Back to you for now.
A small update to help out. The link to scanmodem is : http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/scanModem.gz This is the package to download as mentioned above. -- Regards SnapafunFrank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213
SnapafunFrank wrote:
http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/scanModem.gz
This is the package to download as mentioned above.
Have had it sitting on my computer since 24th - sorry, should have advised.
-- Our website has changed slightly. new URL is www.geocities.com/judenlinz Phone nz07-896-8826
Mandrake Move is not supposed to be able to access the HDD, as I understand.
Not quite correct, though you need to know how to do this. It would be pointless using a LiveCD to recover things from the harddrive if you could not actually mount it in the first place. For now do only this one thing for me:
With the LiveCD up and running, open the File Manager ( "Start" - " Quick Browser " - " Root " - " mnt" - " win_c2 " ) and see if you recognize any folders within that. ( 'win_c2' is what is on my system so look for something similar on your LiveCD Action list.) Please report back here whether or not you were able to see anything on the hard drive and if so were you able to open and view the contents of any safe file you recognized there?
I'll give it a go on Friday, as I have quite a bit to do before then and dont feel confident to attempt it without being absolutely clear-headed. I'm sure you can understand. - Linz
Judy & Lindsay Roberts wrote:
Mandrake Move is not supposed to be able to access the HDD, as I understand.
Not quite correct, though you need to know how to do this. It would be pointless using a LiveCD to recover things from the harddrive if you could not actually mount it in the first place. For now do only this one thing for me:
With the LiveCD up and running, open the File Manager ( "Start" - " Quick Browser " - " Root " - " mnt" - " win_c2 " ) and see if you recognize any folders within that. ( 'win_c2' is what is on my system so look for something similar on your LiveCD Action list.) Please report back here whether or not you were able to see anything on the hard drive and if so were you able to open and view the contents of any safe file you recognized there?
I'll give it a go on Friday, as I have quite a bit to do before then and dont feel confident to attempt it without being absolutely clear-headed. I'm sure you can understand. - Linz
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When you are ready, and once started you will find that it is not so hard after all, just a little different. -- Regards SnapafunFrank Big or small, a challenge requires the same commitment to resolve. Registered Linux User # 324213
SnapafunFrank wrote:
Judy & Lindsay Roberts wrote:
Mandrake Move is not supposed to be able to access the HDD, as I understand.
Not quite correct, though you need to know how to do this. It would be pointless using a LiveCD to recover things from the harddrive if you could not actually mount it in the first place. For now do only this one thing for me:
With the LiveCD up and running, open the File Manager ( "Start" - " Quick Browser " - " Root " - " mnt" - " win_c2 " ) and see if you recognize any folders within that. ( 'win_c2' is what is on my system so look for something similar on your LiveCD Action list.) Please report back here whether or not you were able to see anything on the hard drive and if so were you able to open and view the contents of any safe file you recognized there?
I'll give it a go on Friday, as I have quite a bit to do before then and dont feel confident to attempt it without being absolutely clear-headed. I'm sure you can understand. - Linz
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When you are ready, and once started you will find that it is not so hard after all, just a little different.
I loaded MDK Move. The only file manager I could find was MToolsFM 1.9-3 File Manager. I could find nowhere in it where 'root' etc. could be found. In fact it was decidedly devoid of much at all. A small text box shows the word Harddrive but in the file list on the left it is showing what is on the CD. I added bcde drives in there and tried to access. I got the following error message.... Drive'C' not supportedCannot initialize 'C' Cant open /dev/fd1:no such file or directory This is going to be a long process I can see. Linz
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