
Well i've had a lot of trouble with my adsl modem over the years... All probably being due to my very crappy DLink 302G adsl modem. It has slowly become the bane of my existence... So what I want to do is, one of two things: If possible I would like to get the 302G modem running in bridge mode, so that I can connect to it with pppoe. I have tried numerous times, but my linux box refuses to see the "Access Concentrator" when I try to set up pppoe. I've followed the instructions from DLinks site to use bridge mode, and I've tried using the updated firmware too. Both to no avail. Has anyone managed to get this modem working in full bridge mode, (not the half-bridge mode detailed on the wlug site)? The second option is to buy another modem. I want to try using a internal ADSL modem this time. Does anyone know which modems that are available in New Zealand work under Linux? -- Cameron

Hi Cameron, Telecom do not use PPPOA on their DSL networks, only Telstra do through the new Ericcson DSLAM's. The DSL-302G does not support PPPOE-PPPOA conversion so you will not be able to terminate PPPOE to your linux machine. Your best bet is to follow the instructions posted on the WLUG wiki by myself and others that tell you how to get the 302G into "half-bridge" mode. In this mode it will pass the real world IP through to your linux box using DHCP. I have successfully used DSL-302G's in a lot of implementations, and fixed problems other people have had with them, mostly due to their lack of understanding of how to configure them. If you have any queries, just post them on here and I will see if I can help. Regards, Andy Camster342 wrote:
Well i've had a lot of trouble with my adsl modem over the years... All probably being due to my very crappy DLink 302G adsl modem. It has slowly become the bane of my existence...
So what I want to do is, one of two things:
If possible I would like to get the 302G modem running in bridge mode, so that I can connect to it with pppoe. I have tried numerous times, but my linux box refuses to see the "Access Concentrator" when I try to set up pppoe. I've followed the instructions from DLinks site to use bridge mode, and I've tried using the updated firmware too. Both to no avail. Has anyone managed to get this modem working in full bridge mode, (not the half-bridge mode detailed on the wlug site)?
The second option is to buy another modem. I want to try using a internal ADSL modem this time. Does anyone know which modems that are available in New Zealand work under Linux?
-- Cameron
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On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 12:38 +1300, Andrew Thrift wrote:
Hi Cameron,
Telecom do not use PPPOA on their DSL networks, only Telstra do through the new Ericcson DSLAM's.
Ummm, NZ's entire DSL network is PPPoA. Perhaps you are confusing PPPoA and PPPoE. PPPoE is not used on Telecom's network in NZ. Details on setting up lots of DSL modems in NZ can be found at http://www.wlug.org.nz/ADSLModems There are some internal modems on the page that may meet Cameron's requirements. I've used the Access Runner (sold by World-net) before with some success. Regards -- Matt Brown matt(a)mattb.net.nz Mob +64 275 611 544 www.mattb.net.nz

No Telstra's new Erricson mini dslams support PPPOE, I have set up about 7 connections using Billion 7100S's and FortiNet FG60's using PPPOE. Matt Brown wrote:
On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 12:38 +1300, Andrew Thrift wrote:
Hi Cameron,
Telecom do not use PPPOA on their DSL networks, only Telstra do through the new Ericcson DSLAM's.
Ummm, NZ's entire DSL network is PPPoA. Perhaps you are confusing PPPoA and PPPoE. PPPoE is not used on Telecom's network in NZ.
Details on setting up lots of DSL modems in NZ can be found at http://www.wlug.org.nz/ADSLModems
There are some internal modems on the page that may meet Cameron's requirements. I've used the Access Runner (sold by World-net) before with some success.
Regards

look at your quote, you were confused.. Telecom does use PPPOA, you said they didn't.. Typo we know.. But misleading to newbies... Nothing wrong with the 302g adsl modem, ive had mine connected for about 6 months and run a lot of incoming services. The secret is to not let it do NAT itself as it seriously sucks. -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Thrift [mailto:andrew(a)thrift.kicks-ass.net] Sent: Tuesday, 25 October 2005 1:59 p.m. To: Waikato Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [wlug] PCI adsl modem. No Telstra's new Erricson mini dslams support PPPOE, I have set up about 7 connections using Billion 7100S's and FortiNet FG60's using PPPOE. Matt Brown wrote:
On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 12:38 +1300, Andrew Thrift wrote:
Hi Cameron,
Telecom do not use PPPOA on their DSL networks, only Telstra do through the new Ericcson DSLAM's.
Ummm, NZ's entire DSL network is PPPoA. Perhaps you are confusing PPPoA and PPPoE. PPPoE is not used on Telecom's network in NZ.
Details on setting up lots of DSL modems in NZ can be found at http://www.wlug.org.nz/ADSLModems
There are some internal modems on the page that may meet Cameron's requirements. I've used the Access Runner (sold by World-net) before with some success.
Regards
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Heh, yes see my mistake. Telecom = PPPOA Telsta = PPPOE Yes, the 302G is a very reliable little modem. The best modems I have come accross as far as flexibility are: 1. Alcatel Speedtouch 5xx series (bridged, half bridge, NAT, pptp-pppoX) 2. Billion 7100S (bridged, half bridge, NAT) 3. D-Link DSL-302G (half bridge, NAT) 4. Nokia M1122 (bridged, NAT) Kyle Carter wrote:
look at your quote, you were confused.. Telecom does use PPPOA, you said they didn't.. Typo we know.. But misleading to newbies...
Nothing wrong with the 302g adsl modem, ive had mine connected for about 6 months and run a lot of incoming services. The secret is to not let it do NAT itself as it seriously sucks.
-----Original Message----- From: Andrew Thrift [mailto:andrew(a)thrift.kicks-ass.net] Sent: Tuesday, 25 October 2005 1:59 p.m. To: Waikato Linux Users Group Subject: Re: [wlug] PCI adsl modem.
No Telstra's new Erricson mini dslams support PPPOE, I have set up about 7 connections using Billion 7100S's and FortiNet FG60's using PPPOE.
Matt Brown wrote:
On Tue, 2005-10-25 at 12:38 +1300, Andrew Thrift wrote:
Hi Cameron,
Telecom do not use PPPOA on their DSL networks, only Telstra do through the new Ericcson DSLAM's.
Ummm, NZ's entire DSL network is PPPoA. Perhaps you are confusing PPPoA and PPPoE. PPPoE is not used on Telecom's network in NZ.
Details on setting up lots of DSL modems in NZ can be found at http://www.wlug.org.nz/ADSLModems
There are some internal modems on the page that may meet Cameron's requirements. I've used the Access Runner (sold by World-net) before with some success.
Regards
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Yes, the 302G is a very reliable little modem. The best modems I have come accross as far as flexibility are:
1. Alcatel Speedtouch 5xx series (bridged, half bridge, NAT, pptp-pppoX) 2. Billion 7100S (bridged, half bridge, NAT) 3. D-Link DSL-302G (half bridge, NAT) 4. Nokia M1122 (bridged, NAT)
After much banging my head against a wall I finally got the half-bridge mode on my 302G working again. I had played with its configuration a while ago, and it wouldn't work in half-bridge mode any more, up until now. My net does still keep dying though, and I've got a major suspicion its to do with downloading programs that open lots of connections at once (bittorrent, imesh, gnutella). Is there any place in linux to look to see how many connections are currently being NATed? and then how to see which local ip address has the most. It's odd though, it seemed to work ok when I was with telecom, but then it all went pearshaped when I switched to Orcon. -- Cameron

Hi Cameron, Whilst living in Papamoa I had similar issues, it turned out to be a problem with the way it had been connected at the exchange. I called Orcon and complained that I kept on getting disconnected and they organised Telecom to check it out. When you are running in half-bridge mode the problem with too many connections does not exist. I use mine for BitTorrent using TorrentFlux quite successfully. Camster342 wrote:
Yes, the 302G is a very reliable little modem. The best modems I have come accross as far as flexibility are:
1. Alcatel Speedtouch 5xx series (bridged, half bridge, NAT, pptp-pppoX) 2. Billion 7100S (bridged, half bridge, NAT) 3. D-Link DSL-302G (half bridge, NAT) 4. Nokia M1122 (bridged, NAT)
After much banging my head against a wall I finally got the half-bridge mode on my 302G working again. I had played with its configuration a while ago, and it wouldn't work in half-bridge mode any more, up until now.
My net does still keep dying though, and I've got a major suspicion its to do with downloading programs that open lots of connections at once (bittorrent, imesh, gnutella). Is there any place in linux to look to see how many connections are currently being NATed? and then how to see which local ip address has the most. It's odd though, it seemed to work ok when I was with telecom, but then it all went pearshaped when I switched to Orcon.
-- Cameron
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Yeah but it seems that we only have net issues when there is a couple of flatmates running bittorrent... I just want to test to see if there is some magic number of connections that it doesn't like, or if it is when it gets regularly high or if its something else entirely. On 25/10/05, Andrew Thrift <andrew(a)thrift.kicks-ass.net> wrote:
Hi Cameron,
Whilst living in Papamoa I had similar issues, it turned out to be a problem with the way it had been connected at the exchange. I called Orcon and complained that I kept on getting disconnected and they organised Telecom to check it out.
When you are running in half-bridge mode the problem with too many connections does not exist.
I use mine for BitTorrent using TorrentFlux quite successfully.
Camster342 wrote:
Yes, the 302G is a very reliable little modem. The best modems I have come accross as far as flexibility are:
1. Alcatel Speedtouch 5xx series (bridged, half bridge, NAT, pptp-pppoX) 2. Billion 7100S (bridged, half bridge, NAT) 3. D-Link DSL-302G (half bridge, NAT) 4. Nokia M1122 (bridged, NAT)
After much banging my head against a wall I finally got the half-bridge mode on my 302G working again. I had played with its configuration a while ago, and it wouldn't work in half-bridge mode any more, up until now.
My net does still keep dying though, and I've got a major suspicion its to do with downloading programs that open lots of connections at once (bittorrent, imesh, gnutella). Is there any place in linux to look to see how many connections are currently being NATed? and then how to see which local ip address has the most. It's odd though, it seemed to work ok when I was with telecom, but then it all went pearshaped when I switched to Orcon.
-- Cameron
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My net does still keep dying though, and I've got a major suspicion its to do with downloading programs that open lots of connections at once (bittorrent, imesh, gnutella). Is there any place in linux to look to see how many connections are currently being NATed? and then how to see which local ip address has the most. It's odd though, it seemed to work ok when I was with telecom, but then it all went pearshaped when I switched to Orcon.
(apt-get install) nmap. Nmap is cool. You might need to put some filter majick in place to have it correctly count traffic however. If not, traffic from your lan to eth0 is counted as well as (post-NAT) traffic to the internet. After much deliberation on #wlug about the topic, we ended up settling on measuring eth0 like such: (src net 10.7.0 and dst net not 10.7.0) or (src net not 10.7.0 and dst net 10.7.0) The internal network here is 10.7.0.0/24, so obviously, change for your own needs. If you have a real IP on your external gateway, you probably don't need to change that filtering at all, as nmap will probably just handle. In my case, I have a second level of NAT down the ethernet in the form of a gateway that doesn't bridge. -- A more manual approach is /proc/net/ip_conntrack - much better to use a tool that actually makes it readable for you. Craig
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Andrew Thrift
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Camster342
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Craig Box
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Kyle Carter
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Matt Brown