Re: [wlug] SFD library poster: call for contributions (now URGENT)
Hi all, A couple of weeks ago, I wrote:
To do that, we need colourful, compelling, and useful (where applicable) screenshots of a wide range of FOSS software. These screenshots need to be released under Creative Commons, so we need to draw on resources within WLUG rather than simply downloading sample screenshots. We've got around 2.4 x 1.2 metres, so we've got real estate to burn.
I've set up a page detailing the goals, showing the current layout design (using, ahem, downloaded screenshots), and listing candidate packages:
http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~butting/wlug/contrib.html
If you think you can offer something -- killer examples of Inkscape or Gimp in use, Kino being used to create something lively, a Rosegarden composition, a Mono program that looks good onscreen -- please, please, check the page out and drop me a line.
Things are looking grim, and it's causing a truckload of stress here. Deadline is *FRIDAY*, and so far I've not seen -any- final, print-ready artwork. The only contributions so far have been from just two people. Everything else has come off my bat: Impress, Kino (will be replacing with either Jahshaka or Avidemux), Firefox (pending, tho), Inkscape, MuseScore, and Torcs. I *need*: Euler, Wesnoth, Freeciv, Frets on Fire, Glest, Neverball, Flightgear, Gimp, OpenOffice Writer & Calc, and Mono (*especially* Mono). Surely someone's able to contribute? butting
Hi all, Current work-in-progress at: http://homepages.ihug.co.nz/~butting/wlug/sfd-inkscape-master.png This features: Glest, FretsOnFire, Neverball, Tremulous, Nexuiz Torcs, [FlightGear] [Writer], Impress [Inkscape], Gimp, Blender [Jahshaka/Avidemux], MuseScore Firefox [*] [Eric] and the Symphony cluster. (... and I'm bloody exhausted!) I believe I've got FlightGear, Writer, Inkscape and Jahshaka/Avidemux sorted, though if you've got something don't let that stop you. I gather that Eric and Wengophone are on the way. The current desperately-need-badly list: * Euler * Wesnoth or Freeciv * Calc (surely someone's got a spreadsheet they can pretty up a graph on?) * Mono * Elephant's Dream playing in... *is* there a Linux/Win/MacOS player? * Wengophone: I'm not sure that this one's locked in, so if you've got a camera, an earpiece ( == far more photogenic than a headset), and if possible an interesting background, a screenshot would be Well Useful. * Thunderbird, Sunbird * beats! anyone got any drum & bass in a sequence? GIMME!!! I'm going to have to give up on SQL/business back/end applications, aren't I? I'm frustrated by that: those are applications we should be busting ourselves to publicise. If someone wants to fake up a PostgreSQL database for the AnachroTech website, with products and orders and inventory and web traffic summaries, and screenshots of PGAdminIII.... *DEAD* *USEFUL*. (and a python script turning PGadminIII export CSV into a pretty graph? I would KILL THAT RAT BASTARD NIXON for that.) And: if anyone's able to offer gallery pages of home photos up under CC, that would help populate Firefox windows (would help a *lot*). your call as to whether the actual URL would be included (bear in mind, if this *does* get finished I'd like to pass all artwork back to SFD to help others). And to clarify something: for multi-window applications, separate grabs of each window helps immensely (look for the Gimp one to see why). your desktop background doesn't matter, since that'll be replaced by transparency (and drop shadow, where widgets are Gnome rather than Windows) at this end -- but separated windows are far more useful than tiled or overlapping ones. (crap: *now* I discover how to window-grab -with- decorations with -without- giving focus...) Just bear in mind: screenshots of options and setup dialogues, of course, aren't really useful at all. We need the software in use, in such a way that it looks like Joe Bloggs Windows user would think, "heeeeyyy, that ain't half bad...." cheers all, and thanks to those who've contributed. ta, Bryce
I believe I've got FlightGear, Writer, Inkscape and Jahshaka/Avidemux sorted, though if you've got something don't let that stop you. I gather that Eric and Wengophone are on the way.
Cool. Wengophone should be pretty easy. I can't find the source for it though, the developer site and wengo's own signup page have been down for ages and nobody seems to have noticed. Is it still an active project?
* Euler * Wesnoth or Freeciv * Calc (surely someone's got a spreadsheet they can pretty up a graph on?) * Mono
* Elephant's Dream playing in... *is* there a Linux/Win/MacOS player?
vlc is on all platforms and imho the best player around for most things. It does DVD menus properly, almost nothing else does! But please can we have it playing Big Buck Bunny, ED is just too "weird" for most people.
* Wengophone: I'm not sure that this one's locked in, so if you've got a camera, an earpiece ( == far more photogenic than a headset), and if possible an interesting background, a screenshot would be Well Useful. * Thunderbird, Sunbird * beats! anyone got any drum & bass in a sequence? GIMME!!!
Hydrogen?
I'm going to have to give up on SQL/business back/end applications, aren't I? I'm frustrated by that: those are applications we should be busting ourselves to publicise. If someone wants to fake up a PostgreSQL database for the AnachroTech website, with products and orders and inventory and web traffic summaries, and screenshots of PGAdminIII.... *DEAD* *USEFUL*.
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I believe I've got FlightGear, Writer, Inkscape and Jahshaka/Avidemux sorted, though if you've got something don't let that stop you. I gather that Eric and Wengophone are on the way.
Cool. Wengophone should be pretty easy. I can't find the source for it though, the developer site and wengo's own signup page have been down for ages and nobody seems to have noticed. Is it still an active project?
They were talking about "01/02/2008 A new start for OpenWengo" and transferring the maintainership to MBDsys (http://www.mbdsys.com/). It's apparently no longer called "OpenWengo", but "QuteCom": http://www.qutecom.com/ But you can download the source for 2.1.2 still from here: http://dev.openwengo.org/trac/openwengo/trac.fcgi/ QuteCom seems only to have released a Windows release candidate... Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174
But you can download the source for 2.1.2 still from here: http://dev.openwengo.org/trac/openwengo/trac.fcgi/
Ahh, cool. dev.openwengo.org wouldn't resolve for me, and I tried a few different times over about a week, perhaps more? Glad to see it back up.
QuteCom seems only to have released a Windows release candidate...
We'll include them next year perhaps?
Bruce Kingsbury wrote:
Cool. Wengophone should be pretty easy. I can't find the source for it though, the developer site and wengo's own signup page have been down for ages and nobody seems to have noticed. Is it still an active project?
To be brutally honest: I don't remotely care. as long as it offers downloads (which OpenWengo does), works, is F/OSS, and is multiplatform, it meets our needs. its long-term plans (or lack of) are, um, well, -slightly- more relevant that OS/2's!
* Elephant's Dream playing in... *is* there a Linux/Win/MacOS player?
vlc is on all platforms and imho the best player around for most things. It does DVD menus properly, almost nothing else does! But please can we have it playing Big Buck Bunny, ED is just too "weird" for most people.
Sweet either way: haven't had to time to even look, so as long as someone can arrange something. (aside:
* Wengophone: I'm not sure that this one's locked in, so if you've got a camera, an earpiece ( == far more photogenic than a headset), and if possible an interesting background, a screenshot would be Well Useful. * Thunderbird, Sunbird * beats! anyone got any drum & bass in a sequence? GIMME!!!
Hydrogen?
tha's the one (not the easiest name to google up). annnnnnd... done.
I'm going to have to give up on SQL/business back/end applications, aren't I? I'm frustrated by that: those are applications we should be busting ourselves to publicise. If someone wants to fake up a PostgreSQL database for the AnachroTech website, with products and orders and inventory and web traffic summaries, and screenshots of PGAdminIII.... *DEAD* *USEFUL*.
anyone? butting
vlc screenshot should be pretty easy, in fact you could just screenshot the chrome with any old crap playing and paste in a still from BBB's website. Everything about the project is Free so no copyright issues there.
I'm going to have to give up on SQL/business back/end applications, aren't I? I'm frustrated by that: those are applications we should be busting ourselves to publicise. If someone wants to fake up a PostgreSQL database for the AnachroTech website, with products and orders and inventory and web traffic summaries, and screenshots of PGAdminIII.... *DEAD* *USEFUL*.
anyone?
You're going to have to give up I think. There's just no way to make an SQL database or business back-end look even remotely appealing. I think our SFD will just have to be more of a desktop thing, perhaps we can broaden it a little more next year.
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I'm going to have to give up on SQL/business back/end applications, aren't I? I'm frustrated by that: those are applications we should be busting ourselves to publicise. If someone wants to fake up a PostgreSQL database for the AnachroTech website, with products and orders and inventory and web traffic summaries, and screenshots of PGAdminIII.... *DEAD* *USEFUL*.
anyone?
You're going to have to give up I think. There's just no way to make an SQL database or business back-end look even remotely appealing.
that's what *graphs* are for -- raw numeric data's probably the second-easiest stuff there is to present attractively (behind good photographs) http://images.google.com/images?q=3d%20graph and it's a lot easier to create than text copy. (I'll be writing a descriptive piece on penguins for Writer tonight. something about how they refuse to pay unnecessary software licensing fees, probably. but, and this is the hard bit, *the words have to be written*.)
I think our SFD will just have to be more of a desktop thing, perhaps we can broaden it a little more next year.
welllll, this is why I'm keen to get a shot of Symphony's Honking Big Wall Of Pixels in there. (for the rest of the list: the opening tag "because software should give you the freedom to" will notionally close with the very last tag at the bottom reading "replace your desktop with a supercomputer". like I said to Bruce and Jamie, we've got the software, the hardware's up to them!) bryce
Hi all, Many thanks to everyone who's helped so far. should point out though that we're *past* the original deadline to *print* now... and that this'll be a major resource for attracting warm bodies. CURRENT NEED-URGENTLY LIST: WengoPhone an HTML gallery page for Firefox (it'll be kittens if you don't, ah'm warnin' yeh!) Thunderbird (this'll mean faking up folders and a set of msgs) Sunbird (ditto for appointments) Eric Mono CC photos of the Symphony cluster (can anyone get me into the Symphony lab today or tomorrow?) would very much like (as in, have screenshots but more wow would be useful): FreeCiv Scribus Blender Inkscape Euler Impress (a save-the-world presentation would be bonza, hence wanting to track down Nandor) (are any of the Big Buck Bunny raw models available anywhere? they'd be great demos for Blender and maybe Inkscape, but it's not a toolchain I'm familiar enough with to be sure of just jumping right into.) also working on (saving me the effort on one or more would be greatly appreciated): Calc (am working on polishing up provided spreadsheets) another Firefox page Jawhatever current *completed* (!!!) list: Celestia, Rasmol, Stallarium Wesnoth, Glest, Frets on Fire, Neverball, Tremulous, Nexuiz Torcs, FlightGear Writer, Impress Gimp MuseScore, Audacity, Hydrogen, VLC Firefox may do another 24dpi render tonight (access to the PC I co-ordinate the master on is a little fiddly -- which also means I'm doing much of the chrome work on a 1024x768 laptop...) and get it up on the web. why am I after more? well, I can probably expand most of the images I've got to fill the space, but (a) several are at 1024x768 and probably won't blow up too far all that well, and (b) there's a couple with jpeg distortion; making them too big will make that -very- obvious. butting
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Peter Reutemann