James Clark wrote:

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Mono v1.0 http://www.mono-project.com/about/index.html

What are peoples impressions of MONO? I've heard a few people mention how easy/powerful .NET is, does MONO compare? ( I'm not a developer of any sort, so am interested to know ).

If they have implemented all of the framework (as the .NET libraries are called) then from a development point of view it should compare exactly i.e. be exactly the same. This is a very good thing because it means that a developer who knows .NET/Windows, doesn't need to relearn anything (hopefully) in order to write programs that work under Linux. Under windows VB made it easy for anyone with half a clue to make programs. I wonder if Mono and the associated development tools will do the same for Linux? Not sure if this is a good thing but it seems to have worked for MS. g -- Glenn Ramsey <glenn(a)componic.co.nz> 07 8627077 http://www.componic.co.nz

I'm trying to evict "coolwebsearch" from my flatmates XP machine - so far it's proving impossible - anyone else had to throw a few hours of their life away trying to remidy this Bill Gates sponsered balls up? Did you succeed?

If you haven't already tried all the obvious stuff (Spybot SD and AdAware etc) you could try HijackThis, a spyware cleaner that is just for browser helper objects. A cursory Google makes this harder to remove, have you tried the help at http://www.scumware.com/apps/scumware.php/action::view_article/article_id::1075329940/topic::Scumware,-Spyware,-Adware-&-Malware-Applications/ ?It seems that the author of the CWSShredder (who is incidentaly the author of HijackThis too) has been DDOS'd off the internet, and new variants are almost impossible to clean. (http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:qfdFBYoRvTcJ:www.spywareinfo.com/~merijn/+Merijn+Bellekom%27&hl=en) Craig

James Clark wrote:

Yup, used all those it just keeps coming back. AV programs (Panda)

don't catch it either... so painful.

Oh well... time to burn her a Knoppix CD and get her thinking about Linux.

Without trying to be a troll, *nix isn't the best option for people who just want to use windows. Some people just plain WANT to use it, because a) they don't need to learn anything else, b) they generally dont care about anything else c) its alot more newbie user friendly. Reason for this post, I have tried it on my girlfriend, she freaked even though it was pretty much set up as easily as I could for her to use it on my laptop. my 2 cents - Drew

* Drew Broadley <drew(a)corrupt.co.nz> [2004-07-01 23:02]:

Some people just plain WANT to use it, because a) they don't need to learn anything else, b) they generally dont care about anything else c) its alot more newbie user friendly.

These people should get a Mac. End of discussion.

Reason for this post, I have tried it on my girlfriend, she freaked even though it was pretty much set up as easily as I could for her to use it on my laptop.

Is that just xenophobia, or genuine disorientation? Regards, -- Aristotle "If you can't laugh at yourself, you don't take life seriously enough."

And find they can't do all the things their Windows friends do.l

Monocultures are useful sometimes.

If I can digress a little here... The same problem exists with Consoles. Being a bit of a game freak with 10 consoles and all I get asked by others often "What console should I buy little Timmy?". My answer usually goes like this: If Timmy is older 13+ he will really like an XBOX because it has lots of action titles with great graphics and sound. But most of his friends will probably have a PS2. If Timmy is less than 13 then he (and you) will really like a GameCube because there are a lot of unique fun non-violent games on the GameCube. But no-one sells GameCubes outside of the major cities or online and even then games can be hard to find and expensive. So... get a PS2. It's a cheap crap console, has crummy graphics and shitty games but all of Timmy's friends will have one and there are enough "cheap kiddy" games to keep him happy and your wallet from being empty. Windows is the easy answer. Just like PS2 is the easy answer. Regards -- Oliver Jones » Director » oliver(a)deeperdesign.com » +64 (21) 41 2238 Deeper Design Limited » +64 (7) 377 3328 » www.deeperdesign.com

* Oliver Jones <oliver(a)deeper.co.nz> [2004-07-02 03:06]:

I completely agree. My stock answer to people who say they want a computer to surf and do email with I say "buy a Mac". Problem is they don't like the fact that a Mac is $1000 more expensive than a Windows box.

Tell them they will: ... spend hours fixing problems with their Windows box ... suffer mysterious crashes costing them the last few hours of work ... have to meticulously keep their antivirus software up to date, and their system scanned for spyware (and here in Germany, dialers) need to set the system up from scratch ... re-configure all apps every couple of months ... generally hate the computer ... live nightmares taming the computer if, lord forbit, they have a driver problem Or they can spend a few hundred bucks extra at the start. If they disregard your advice and then come crying to you, say "I told you so" and refuse to spend more than 10 minutes to fix the problem. I have become pretty uncompromising in that regard: I do not debug non-trivial Windows problems. It's wasted time -- you rarely learn anything valuable during the process and there is almost never a way to ensure the problem is fixed once and for all. You get nothing in return for your investment. Regards, -- Aristotle "If you can't laugh at yourself, you don't take life seriously enough."

Try these links http://www.spysweeper.com/remove-coolwebsearch.html http://www.pchell.com/support/lookfor.shtml Felix On Thu, 01 Jul 2004 10:12, James Clark wrote:

I'm trying to evict "coolwebsearch" from my flatmates XP machine - so far it's proving impossible - anyone else had to throw a few hours of their life away trying to remidy this Bill Gates sponsered balls up? Did you succeed?

Cheers, James

Shane Taylor wrote:

Add this to that little collection. Gives you a lot of info on running processes.

http://www.sysinternals.com/ntw2k/freeware/procexp.shtml

Something that I usually forget to do; switch off system restore. This idiotic misfeature is almost totally useless for fixing any real problems, but seems to do a fantastic job of restoring malware in the space of a single reboot after you've spend hours trying to get rid of it!