'Real' Programming Is an Elitist Myth

'When people build a database to manage reading lists or feed their neighbors, that's coding -- and culture. From an essay: We are past the New York City Covid-19 peak. Things have started to reopen, but our neighborhood is in trouble, and people are hungry. There's a church that's opened space for a food pantry, a restaurant owner who has given herself to feeding the neighborhood, and lots of volunteers. [...] It's a complex data model. It involves date fields, text fields, integers, notes. You need lots of people to log in, but you need to protect private data too. You'd think their planning conversations would be about making lots of rice. But that is just a data point. The tool the mutual aid group has settled on to track everything is Airtable, a database-as-a-service program. You log in and there's your database. There are a host of tools like this now, "low-code" or "no-code" software with names like Zapier or Coda or Appy Pie. At first glance these tools look like flowcharts married to spreadsheets, but they're powerful ways to build little data-management apps. Airtable in particular keeps showing up everywhere for managing office supplies or scheduling appointments or tracking who at WIRED has their fingers on this column. The more features you use, the more they charge for it, and it can add up quickly. I know because I see the invoices at my company; we use it to track projects. "Real" coders in my experience have often sneered at this kind of software, even back when it was just FileMaker and Microsoft Access managing the flower shop or tracking the cats at the animal shelter. It's not hard to see why. These tools are just databases with a form-making interface on top, and with no code in between. It reduces software development, in all its complexity and immense profitability, to a set of simple data types and form elements. You wouldn't build a banking system in it or a game. It lacks the features of big, grown-up databases like Oracle or IBM's Db2 or PostgreSQL. And since it is for amateurs, the end result ends up looking amateur. But it sure does work. I've noticed that when software lets nonprogrammers do programmer things, it makes the programmers nervous. Suddenly they stop smiling indulgently and start talking about what "real programming" is. This has been the history of the World Wide Web, for example. Go ahead and tweet "HTML is real programming," and watch programmers show up in your mentions to go, "As if." Except when you write a web page in HTML, you are creating a data model that will be interpreted by the browser. This is what programming is. Code culture can be solipsistic and exhausting. Programmers fight over semicolon placement and the right way to be object-oriented or functional or whatever else will let them feel in control and smarter and more economically safe, and always I want to shout back: Code isn't enough on its own. We throw code away when it runs out its clock; we migrate data to new databases, so as not to lose one precious bit. Code is a story we tell about data.' -- source: https://developers.slashdot.org/story/20/08/19/146204 Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann Dept. of Computer Science University of Waikato, NZ +64 (7) 858-5174 http://www.cms.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ http://www.data-mining.co.nz/

On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 10:40:02 +1200, Peter Reutemann quoted:
'I've noticed that when software lets nonprogrammers do programmer things, it makes the programmers nervous.'
Is that a big surprise? Guess what happens when something goes wrong: who gets called on to fix it?
'"Real" coders in my experience have often sneered at this kind of software, even back when it was just FileMaker and Microsoft Access managing the flower shop or tracking the cats at the animal shelter.'
And where are those tools now?

Amen to that. I'm sure all of us here have been asked at various times to "have a quick look" at "a small issue" on someone's business website, and noticed it's a decade-old Wordpress site with dozens of plugins and themes that are now unmaintained, incompatible, security-vulnerable, database-breaking, non-updatable or all of the above. Then, seen the client's face when we've told them their "convenient drag-and-drop easy site building" platform has handed them an unmaintable clusterfist, and it'll cost them five figures to build a new, more secure and maintainable site to replace it. D stuck on an ancient vulnerable version of Wordpress, and can't be updated because it's full of plugins, a third of which are broken, and the other two thirds have fallen out of maintenance and would break from any update attempts. On 20/08/20 12:26 pm, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Thu, 20 Aug 2020 10:40:02 +1200, Peter Reutemann quoted:
'I've noticed that when software lets nonprogrammers do programmer things, it makes the programmers nervous.' Is that a big surprise? Guess what happens when something goes wrong: who gets called on to fix it?
'"Real" coders in my experience have often sneered at this kind of software, even back when it was just FileMaker and Microsoft Access managing the flower shop or tracking the cats at the animal shelter.' And where are those tools now?
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David McNab
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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Peter Reutemann