Hi guys, I tried to be sensible and wait for other online reviews first but in the end I couldn't resist and just hit upgrade to Karmic Koola for a Kubuntu Jaunty Jackalope machine. The process worked flawlessly and I am impressed. It upgraded my virtual Windows XP machine (running on VirtualBox), keep Amarok 1.4 and didn't break Wine. Skype still works and the wireless configuration dialog is much improved. The Nvidia drivers were updated for the new kernel. And a few annoying bugs in Kontact are gone! That was the most painless update I've experienced. It still took about an hour a 800Kb/s ADSL connection and I had to answer a few questioned along the way but otherwise very impressed. Just though I'd share that. Cheers, Chris
2009/11/2 Chris O'Halloran <cmoman(a)gmail.com>:
I tried to be sensible and wait for other online reviews first but in the end I couldn't resist and just hit upgrade to Karmic Koola for a Kubuntu Jaunty Jackalope machine.
The process worked flawlessly and I am impressed. It upgraded my virtual Windows XP machine (running on VirtualBox), keep Amarok 1.4 and didn't break Wine. Skype still works and the wireless configuration dialog is much improved. The Nvidia drivers were updated for the new kernel. And a few annoying bugs in Kontact are gone!
That was the most painless update I've experienced. It still took about an hour a 800Kb/s ADSL connection and I had to answer a few questioned along the way but otherwise very impressed.
Thanks for that report Chris. After grabbing 2 CDs from Saturday's workshop (thanks guys ... things looked to be ticking over nicely) I've done two installs, 32-bit on my desktop and 64-bit on my laptop. Both have gone well. Rather than doing an upgrade, I prefer to do a fresh install every 6 months, with about 4 installations on an 80GB disk. That way I automatically discard all the programs and rubbish that one accumulates over time. Fresh installs took just a little over 30 minutes. Saw a review of Ubuntu One (cloud repository) that wasn't very complimentary. Apart from wanting to use my keyring, it seems to be OK - but I've only put one file there! Have yet to test it from a computer not running Ubuntu 9.10. Am having a little bit of trouble creating iso files from the two CDs. One terminated early (read error?) and the other doesn't give the official md5sum from http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/MD5SUMS michael(a)michael-duron:~$ dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/michael/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso dd: reading `/dev/cdrom': Input/output error 1412832+0 records in 1412832+0 records out 723369984 bytes (723 MB) copied, 258.009 s, 2.8 MB/s michael(a)michael-duron:~$ dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/michael/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso dd: reading `/dev/cdrom': Input/output error 1196712+0 records in 1196712+0 records out 612716544 bytes (613 MB) copied, 156.438 s, 3.9 MB/s The second one is obviously one sandwich short of a picnic! It's not the full 690MB or so. Michael
doing an upgrade, I prefer to do a fresh install every 6 months, with about 4 installations on an 80GB disk. That way I automatically discard all the programs and rubbish that one accumulates over time. Fresh installs took just a little over 30 minutes.
Hi Michael, Yes I certainly appreciate the fresh install approach after having a few failed attempts in the past. I guess one thing that you get better with over time is respecting the package management system and not doing "./configure make make install" on some bit of software you happen to have found on the web or do dpkp --force..... to force the .deb package to install. I suspect this makes it much easier for the upgrade tools to figure how to upgrade the system. Whenever possible, I try to make a .deb file using checkinstall if I cannot find an appropriate binary. In my case, I downloaded the Koala .iso first and backed up my home drive before beginning so I was ready to do a reinstall if it all went to custard. But I thought, a reinstall, followed by all my customisations is going to take a day so I might as well try this upgrade process because I knew I hadn't abused the package management system. As I mentioned it work well. I was impressed it didn't overwrite Amarok 1.4 with Amarok 2.2. I'm a big fan of Amarok and will happily upgrade to Amarok 2.2 (and beyond) when I know it handles podcasts well (something to tinker with soon). Amarok 2.0 was the default install for Jaunty Jackalope and it was far too bleeding edge for a production release. I am looking forward to Digikam going into the Koala backports(2) http://www.digikam.org/. The KDE3 to KDE4 rewrite is nearing completion now in beta5. Cheers, Chris
the ones you got were burned at full speed so possibly not the most reliable disks. But if you managed to install from them then I would have expected you could extract an ISO. That seems a bit odd. 2009/11/2 Michael McDonald <mikencolleen(a)gmail.com>:
2009/11/2 Chris O'Halloran <cmoman(a)gmail.com>:
I tried to be sensible and wait for other online reviews first but in the end I couldn't resist and just hit upgrade to Karmic Koola for a Kubuntu Jaunty Jackalope machine.
The process worked flawlessly and I am impressed. It upgraded my virtual Windows XP machine (running on VirtualBox), keep Amarok 1.4 and didn't break Wine. Skype still works and the wireless configuration dialog is much improved. The Nvidia drivers were updated for the new kernel. And a few annoying bugs in Kontact are gone!
That was the most painless update I've experienced. It still took about an hour a 800Kb/s ADSL connection and I had to answer a few questioned along the way but otherwise very impressed.
Thanks for that report Chris.
After grabbing 2 CDs from Saturday's workshop (thanks guys ... things looked to be ticking over nicely) I've done two installs, 32-bit on my desktop and 64-bit on my laptop. Both have gone well. Rather than doing an upgrade, I prefer to do a fresh install every 6 months, with about 4 installations on an 80GB disk. That way I automatically discard all the programs and rubbish that one accumulates over time. Fresh installs took just a little over 30 minutes.
Saw a review of Ubuntu One (cloud repository) that wasn't very complimentary. Apart from wanting to use my keyring, it seems to be OK - but I've only put one file there! Have yet to test it from a computer not running Ubuntu 9.10.
Am having a little bit of trouble creating iso files from the two CDs. One terminated early (read error?) and the other doesn't give the official md5sum from http://releases.ubuntu.com/karmic/MD5SUMS
michael(a)michael-duron:~$ dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/michael/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-i386.iso dd: reading `/dev/cdrom': Input/output error 1412832+0 records in 1412832+0 records out 723369984 bytes (723 MB) copied, 258.009 s, 2.8 MB/s
michael(a)michael-duron:~$ dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/home/michael/ubuntu-9.10-desktop-amd64.iso dd: reading `/dev/cdrom': Input/output error 1196712+0 records in 1196712+0 records out 612716544 bytes (613 MB) copied, 156.438 s, 3.9 MB/s
The second one is obviously one sandwich short of a picnic! It's not the full 690MB or so.
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