Hi All I thought I saw some one demonstrate a really easy way of getting files downloaded and installed in the Gentoo distro. As root # up <name_of_package> Computer then searches for and reports back: "I would install Files <name> to <name> If the user was satisfied with the report then the "p" is deleted <enter> and the update goes ahead. I did not put this in the wiki In case I was totally wrong, it did happen once :-) Regards John
Hi All I thought I saw some one demonstrate a really easy way of getting files downloaded and installed in the Gentoo distro. As root # up <name_of_package> Computer then searches for and reports back: "I would install Files <name> to <name> If the user was satisfied with the report then the "p" is deleted <enter> and the update goes ahead. I did not put this in the wiki In case I was totally wrong, it did happen once :-)
I think you are right, however you missed part of the command: emerge -up <name_of_package> 'emerge' is the command you use to install packages into gentoo. It is part of the portage system - similar to FreeBSD's ports. Most modern distributions have package managers that handle locating, downloading and installing packages for you. Redhat has up2date, Fedora Core has up2date, yum and apt, Debian and its derivatives have apt, and so on. Of course, these only work for packages the distribution includes - you might still have to download sourcecode and compile and install manually.
On Mon, 2004-10-18 at 08:58 +1300, Daniel Lawson wrote:
Of course, these only work for packages the distribution includes - you might still have to download sourcecode and compile and install manually.
Since gentoo is a source based distro (when you emerge a package, portage downloads and compiles the source for you), it is very easy to create your own ebuild (the gentoo package tyoe) if there is a package you want that's not in one of the repositories, or you want a newer bleeding edge version than currently in the repository, emerge also has a swith 'a' which can replace 'p'. When you use 'emerge -up package-name | world | system', portage calculates dependencies, tells you what it would emerge, then exits. If you decide you want to go ahead, you have to issue an emerge command again, and wait again for dependency calculation, which could take a while. The 'a' flag is like 'p' for pretend, but it has a 'do you want me to go ahead?' type of question, instead of exiting after output. Doing it on my system now looks like this (after not having updated for a while - 'D' stands for deep: upgrade all dependencies as well): jgibbs root # emerge -uDa world These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies ...done! [ebuild U ] sys-apps/shadow-4.0.4.1-r4 [4.0.4.1-r3] [ebuild U ] x11-misc/ttmkfdir-3.0.9-r2 [3.0.9-r1] [ebuild U ] x11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.0-r1 [6.7.0-r2] [ebuild U ] x11-terms/xterm-196 [191] [ebuild U ] dev-lang/python-2.3.4 [2.3.3-r1] [ebuild N ] sys-kernel/gentoo-dev-sources-2.6.8-r10 [ebuild U ] media-libs/tiff-3.6.1-r2 [3.5.7-r1] [ebuild U ] kde-base/kdebase-3.3.1 [3.3.0] [ebuild U ] kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.3.1 [3.3.0] [ebuild U ] media-libs/t1lib-5.0.1 [5.0.0-r2] [ebuild U ] app-text/xpdf-3.00-r2 [2.03] [ebuild U ] kde-base/kdegraphics-3.3.1 [3.3.0] [ebuild U ] kde-base/kdenetwork-3.3.1 [3.3.0] [ebuild U ] app-crypt/gpgme-1.0.0-r3 [1.0.0] [ebuild U ] kde-base/kdepim-3.3.1 [3.3.0-r1] [ebuild U ] kde-base/kdeaddons-3.3.1 [3.3.0] [ebuild U ] kde-base/kdeartwork-3.3.1 [3.3.0] [ebuild U ] kde-base/kdeadmin-3.3.1 [3.3.0] [ebuild U ] app-office/openoffice-1.1.3 [1.1.2] [ebuild U ] kde-base/kdeutils-3.3.1 [3.3.0] Do you want me to merge these packages? [Yes/No] ... There are advantages and disadvantages to all distros, for gentoo you have to wait for source packages to compile. There is no installer for it either (but great docs). I've found I was truly happy only with a linux distro when I found the balance that suited me best, which is currently gentoo. I've learnt so much using it, and enjoy it's powerful package management. Joseph.
Of course, these only work for packages the distribution includes - you might still have to download sourcecode and compile and install manually.
Since gentoo is a source based distro (when you emerge a package, portage downloads and compiles the source for you), it is very easy to create your own ebuild (the gentoo package tyoe) if there is a package you want that's not in one of the repositories, or you want a newer bleeding edge version than currently in the repository,
It's also easy to create your own .deb packages and RPMs. The fact that gentoo is source based doesn't give it a monopoly on creating packages easily. My point was more about something that most of new users of linux come up against at some point - they want to install a particular program, but there is no package for their distribution for it. In many cases, there are already packages available anyway, or packages for a very similar program. Hopefully this will get covered at the next meeting.
Daniel Lawson wrote:
Since gentoo is a source based distro (when you emerge a package, portage downloads and compiles the source for you), it is very easy to create your own ebuild (the gentoo package tyoe) if there is a package you want that's not in one of the repositories, or you want a newer bleeding edge version than currently in the repository,
One thing (thats already been mentioned) is that Gentoo teaches you soo much more about the "inside" of the system so that when you need (even though its very rare, since portage is normally right up with the play of releases - and all but the smallest packages aren't in it) to manually compile somthing - it normally doesn't turn into a scary "EEEP" moment. And no more fetching the install cd when small things go wrong and (say) x doesn't come up, like it used to be when I used RH. Also, another thing thats really neat is that packages can have multiple versions - with the newest/unstable packages masked so that - for general users who just want a working system can automattically have the stable version, but then crazy people who want the newest of everything very simply can. Another thing thats great is the smart init scripts which are really logical. </rant> I'll shush now...
jaytee(a)clear.net.nz wrote:
Hi All I thought I saw some one demonstrate a really easy way of getting files downloaded and installed in the Gentoo distro. As root
Debian is very similar, you can: apt-get install <packagename> and it will download and install it too :) apt-cache search searchterm will also search for a package.
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