
One step close to the Apocalypse: http://www.wlug.org.nz/Enlightenment On 07/06/05, James Clark <jamesc(a)bofh.co.nz> wrote:
http://www.debian.org/News/2005/20050606
James.
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Ian McDonald wrote:
One step close to the Apocalypse: http://www.wlug.org.nz/Enlightenment
Apple have announced they're switching to x86, so make that 2 steps closer...

You know hell has frozen over when the best golfer is black[1], the best rapper is white[2], Apple is on x86[3], MS is on PowerPC[4] – and there’s a new Debian release[5]. – Source unknown
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vijay_Singh [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminem [3] http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2005/jun/06intel.html [4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XBox360 [5] http://www.debian.org/News/2005/20050606 Also: http://www.overclockers.at/attachment.php?attachmentid=80974 Regards, -- Aristotle “If you can’t laugh at yourself, you don’t take life seriously enough.”

On Tue, Jun 07, 2005 at 02:28:04AM +0200, A. Pagaltzis wrote:
You know hell has frozen over when the best golfer is black[1], the best rapper is white[2], Apple is on x86[3], MS is on PowerPC[4] ??? and there???s a new Debian release[5]. ??? Source unknown
[1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vijay_Singh [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminem [3] http://www.apple.com/pr/library/2005/jun/06intel.html [4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XBox360 [5] http://www.debian.org/News/2005/20050606
Also: http://www.overclockers.at/attachment.php?attachmentid=80974
How Duke Nukem Forever didn't appear on unknown's link we'll never know. James.

* James Clark <jamesc(a)bofh.co.nz> [2005-06-07 02:40]:
How Duke Nukem Forever didn't appear on unknown's link we'll never know.
Well there’s also E17 and Hurd. Sure, it needs to be *very* improbable, but it mustn’t exactly be *impossible*, you know. Regards, -- Aristotle “If you can’t laugh at yourself, you don’t take life seriously enough.”

http://www.debian.org/News/2005/20050606
James.
If anyone does an upgrade from 3.0 let us know how you go and if there were any problems. I'm not going to jump in and upgrade mine just yet because breaking my girlfriends machine is infinitely scarier than killing a commercial server. Cheers.

Shane Taylor wrote:
http://www.debian.org/News/2005/20050606
James.
If anyone does an upgrade from 3.0 let us know how you go and if there were any problems. I'm not going to jump in and upgrade mine just yet because breaking my girlfriends machine is infinitely scarier than killing a commercial server.
I have done this a few times (yay lucky me) at work for test cases for our customers. A straight apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade based on your system already having a 2.4.x kernel, required lilo to be run (if you used lilo) and a extra perl module to stop some apt related errors. That aside, we had little to no problems. I can confirm the perl package tomorrow if you like. Cheers Mike

If anyone does an upgrade from 3.0 let us know how you go and if there were any problems. I'm not going to jump in and upgrade mine just yet because breaking my girlfriends machine is infinitely scarier than killing a commercial server.
I've just upgraded a server from 3.0 to 3.1. Aptitude is the "official" way to perform the upgrade from 3.0 to 3.1 I believe, due to some deficiencies in apt-get. Upgrading desktops *will* be harder, due to the version bump in all your "desktop" apps. Eg, GNOME 1.4 to 2.8, etc. This might be a painful path, and it might be a lot easier to backup any useful data in your home directories, move them elsewhere, then start clean.

On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 08:50:01AM +1200, Daniel Lawson wrote:
I've just upgraded a server from 3.0 to 3.1. Aptitude is the "official" way to perform the upgrade from 3.0 to 3.1 I believe, due to some deficiencies in apt-get.
I was about to call FUD, but it appears that this is true: http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/i386/release-notes.en.txt -- section 2.1 ... The sarge version of `aptitude' is the preferred program for package management from console. It has proven to be better at dependency resolution than `apt-get'. `aptitude' supports most command line operations of `apt-get'. If you are still using `dselect', you should also give `aptitude' a try as frontend for package management. -- I've been using apt-get the whole time. Will have to give aptitude a whirl, I'd always assumed it wasn't a command line tool so never fiddled with it. James.

James Clark wrote:
On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 08:50:01AM +1200, Daniel Lawson wrote:
I've just upgraded a server from 3.0 to 3.1. Aptitude is the "official" way to perform the upgrade from 3.0 to 3.1 I believe, due to some deficiencies in apt-get.
I was about to call FUD, but it appears that this is true:
http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/i386/release-notes.en.txt -- section 2.1 ... The sarge version of `aptitude' is the preferred program for package management from console. It has proven to be better at dependency resolution than `apt-get'. `aptitude' supports most command line operations of `apt-get'. If you are still using `dselect', you should also give `aptitude' a try as frontend for package management.
And on that note: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/06/msg00003.html A bug has been discovered in the 3.1r0 CD/DVD images: new installs from these images will have a commented-out entry in /etc/apt/sources.list for "http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates" rather than an active entry for "http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates", and thus will not get security updates by default. This was due to incorrect Release files on the images. New 3.1r0a images will be available shortly to correct this flaw. In the meantime, CD vendors should delay pressing CDs or DVDs of Debian 3.1. We apologise for the inconvenience. -- Sucks to be an early adopter. Have to download the entire thing again today! Craig

On Wed, Jun 08, 2005 at 10:14:55AM +1200, Craig Box wrote:
New 3.1r0a images will be available shortly to correct this flaw. In the meantime, CD vendors should delay pressing CDs or DVDs of Debian 3.1. We apologise for the inconvenience. ---
Sucks to be an early adopter. Have to download the entire thing again today!
If you use jigdo it'll build the image from what it downloads, and it only downloads changed packages (IIRC). James.
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