
Hi all, Still alive? Because of the (ever-increasing) ratio of spam:legitimate posts that are getting caught by Mailman, I've changed the default behaviour upon receiving a message from an unsub'd address to 'discard'. It was previously 'hold'. I'd like to make it 'reject' (with a polite message sent back to the author) so you're all aware of when you accidentally post using the wrong e-mail address, but that just makes the spambots think we're listening harder, which in turn creates more useless mail traffic. Yes, I'm lazy. But when you get back from holiday and see "77 Pending Moderator Requests" that all require manual rejection/acceptance, it doesn't exactly make your day. ;-P -k.

Because of the (ever-increasing) ratio of spam:legitimate posts that are getting caught by Mailman, I've changed the default behaviour upon receiving a message from an unsub'd address to 'discard'. It was previously 'hold'.
The practical result of this is that when you post to the list, if you aren't posting from your address that is subscribed to the list, it'll get dropped. Two solutions: 1) make sure you are posting with the same email address that you are subbed to the list with 2) subscribe to the list with any email addresses you might happen to the post to the list with, but only have one set to receive list posts.

On Thu, Nov 27, 2003 at 02:09:09PM +1300, Kim Shepherd wrote:
Because of the (ever-increasing) ratio of spam:legitimate posts that are getting caught by Mailman, I've changed the default behaviour upon receiving a message from an unsub'd address to 'discard'. It was previously 'hold'.
Could the mailman list page at http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug be updated to reflect this? It currently gives the impression that anyone can post to the list address... if we make it crystal clear then non-members have less opportunity to get confused, and may be more likely to join the list. John.

On Thu, Nov 27, 2003 at 02:33:29PM +1300, John R. McPherson wrote:
On Thu, Nov 27, 2003 at 02:09:09PM +1300, Kim Shepherd wrote:
Because of the (ever-increasing) ratio of spam:legitimate posts that are getting caught by Mailman, I've changed the default behaviour upon receiving a message from an unsub'd address to 'discard'. It was previously 'hold'.
Could the mailman list page at http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug be updated to reflect this? It currently gives the impression that anyone can post to the list address... if we make it crystal clear then non-members have less opportunity to get confused, and may be more likely to join the list.
John.
Yeah, good idea -- I've added a note to the listinfo page. While I'm at it, I should probably link to the Wiki from there? -k.

Because of the (ever-increasing) ratio of spam:legitimate posts that are getting caught by Mailman, I've changed the default behaviour upon receiving a message from an unsub'd address to 'discard'. It was previously 'hold'.
http://www.daa.com.au/~james/articles/mailman-spamassassin/ Craig

On Thu, Nov 27, 2003 at 03:52:23PM +1300, Craig Box wrote:
Because of the (ever-increasing) ratio of spam:legitimate posts that are getting caught by Mailman, I've changed the default behaviour upon receiving a message from an unsub'd address to 'discard'. It was previously 'hold'.
http://www.daa.com.au/~james/articles/mailman-spamassassin/
Craig
Yeah, I know and like SpamAssassin -- we run it on the University mail server, as you probably know -- but implementing it on a mailman-wide level will be a slightly more long-term project. For the moment, we'll just all have to be a bit more careful about which addresses we send from. (and it's not a big problem.. maybe 2 legit mails a month compared with 75 spams) -k.
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Craig Box
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Daniel Lawson
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John R. McPherson
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Kim Shepherd