Will Linux Innovation Be Driven By Microsoft?

'Adobe's VP of Mobile (and a former intellectual property lawyer) sees "a very possible future where Microsoft doesn't merely accept a peaceful coexistence with Linux, but instead enthusiastically embraces it as a key to its future," noting Microsoft's many Linux kernel developers and arguing it's already innovating around Linux -- especially in the cloud. An anonymous reader quotes InfoWorld: Even seemingly pedestrian work -- like making Docker containers work for Windows, not merely Linux -- is a big deal for enterprises that don't want open source politics infesting their IT. Or how about Hyper-V containers, which marry the high density of containers to the isolation of traditional VMs? That's a really big deal... Microsoft has started hiring Linux kernel developers like Matthew Wilcox, Paul Shilovsky, and (in mid-2016) Stephen Hemminger... Microsoft now employs 12 Linux kernel contributors. As for what these engineers are doing, Linux kernel maintainer Greg Kroah-Hartman says, "Microsoft now has developers contributing to various core areas of the kernel (memory management, core data structures, networking infrastructure), the CIFS filesystem, and of course many contributions to make Linux work better on its Hyper-V systems." In sum, the Linux Foundation's Jim Zemlin declares, "It is accurate to say they are a core contributor," with the likelihood that Hemminger's and others' contributions will move Microsoft out of the kernel contribution basement into the upper echelons. The article concludes that "Pigs, in other words, do fly. Microsoft, while maintaining its commitment to Windows, has made the necessary steps to not merely run on Linux but to help shape the future of Linux."' -- source: https://linux.slashdot.org/story/17/09/16/2335251 Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann Dept. of Computer Science University of Waikato, NZ +64 (7) 858-5174 http://www.cms.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ http://www.data-mining.co.nz/

On 09/18/2017 09:37 AM, Peter Reutemann wrote:
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The article concludes that "Pigs, in other words, do fly. Microsoft, while maintaining its commitment to Windows, has made the necessary steps to not merely run on Linux but to help shape the future of Linux."'
-- source: https://linux.slashdot.org/story/17/09/16/2335251
Cheers, Peter
One year from now: "Microsoft silently replaces its traditional NT-based kernel with its own Linux variant in recent Windows 10 update."

On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 09:37:15 +1200, Peter Reutemann wrote:
'Even seemingly pedestrian work -- like making Docker containers work for Windows, not merely Linux -- is a big deal for enterprises that don't want open source politics infesting their IT.'
If “enterprises” see Open Source as an issue of “politics”, then it’s already too late for them. It was pointed out years ago that, while BigImportantCorps™ were worrying about whether to make use of Open Source or not, it had in fact already infiltrated their organizations. So they never really had a choice.

Microsoft has started hiring Linux kernel developers like Matthew Wilcox, Paul Shilovsky, and (in mid-2016) Stephen Hemminger... Microsoft now employs 12 Linux kernel contributors.
Hiring kernel developers sounds like business-as-usual for Microsoft. Go back to 1988 when Microsoft were in need a new kernel to replace DOS - OS/2. >From Wikipedia<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_NT>... "Microsoft hired a group of developers from Digital Equipment Corporation led by Dave Cutler<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Cutler> to build Windows NT, and many elements of the design reflect earlier DEC experience with Cutler's VMS and RSX-11, but also an unreleased object-based operating system developed by Dave Cutler<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Cutler> for DEC Prism." cheers, Ian.

On Mon, 18 Sep 2017 05:21:44 +0000, Ian Stewart wrote:
"Microsoft hired a group of developers from Digital Equipment Corporation led by Dave Cutler<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Cutler> to build Windows NT, and many elements of the design reflect earlier DEC experience with Cutler's VMS and RSX-11, but also an unreleased object-based operating system developed by Dave Cutler<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Cutler> for DEC Prism."
Remember that Cutler had just quit DEC in a huff over the cancellation of his big OS project there. So Microsoft were taking advantage of this useful brain that DEC had just thrown away. Microsoft hiring Linux kernel developers may be a little different, if they continue working on Linux. If they don’t, then the situation becomes more analogous to the Cutler one. Of course, hiring Torvalds himself away from the Linux project would be the ultimate analogue to the Cutler case; but there’s not a chance of that happening.
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