Re: [wlug] WLUG Fixit Meeting tomorrow

I am coming to add some dumb to the group Regards john ----- Original Message Follows -----
I'll be there with the library, and a freshly burned copy of gobolinuxI'm wanting to try out.On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Liz Quilty <liz(a)velofille.com> wrote:>>> On 5 February 2010 13:17, Ronnie Collinson <notthinking(a)gmail.com> wrote:>>>> 44km, Liz are you crazy? Hopefully theres others turning up, would be>> rather boring if no one else did>>>> Clearly I am crazy. I Signed upf ro the Oxfam 100km walk this year, its just> training. DOing it as a part of a team. Incidentally feel free to sponsor us> - need to make $2500 in donations to just enter, its for a good cause though> :)>>
http://www.oxfam.org.nz/events/teams.asp?a=show_team_pages&eventid=24&teamid=3865>>
Liz>>>>>> On 2/5/10, James Pluck <papabearnz(a)gmail.com> wrote:>> > I'm planning on being there. Â Have a hp/compaq laptop that's been>> > loaned to me while my desktop is kaputnik and I've installed Ubuntu>> > 9.10 on it. Â Working well but I've no clue how to get the wifi going>> > (or even if it can be got going - it's an HP lappy after all!) >> >>> > This thing's a BRICK! Â Old school 1440x1080 native res!>> >>> > J>> >>> > On 5 February 2010 07:33, Rene Bartosh <kirjava(a)hblug.org.nz> wrote:>> >> Morning folks,>> >>>> >> Is anyone planning to attend this meeting? I have just moved to>> >> Hamilton from the Hawkes Bay and wouldn't mind popping in to meet a>> >> few WLUG people.>> >>>> >> Cheers,>> >>>> >> Rene>>
> On 5 February 2010 06:27, Meeting Reminder bot <bot(a)wlug.org.nz> wrote:>> >>> A reminder; the WLUG Fixit Meeting is tomorrow.>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>
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Hi Wlug, I was at the fixiit meeting today and asked Bruce how to install my PDF reader from Adobe. I think he said I should be able to read PDF files with Xsane. However I dont' have a scanner and the application won;t run. What next? Cheers Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: <jaytee(a)clear.net.nz> To: "Waikato Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 8:30 PM Subject: Re: [wlug] WLUG Fixit Meeting tomorrow I am coming to add some dumb to the group Regards john ----- Original Message Follows -----
I'll be there with the library, and a freshly burned copy of gobolinuxI'm wanting to try out.On Fri, Feb 5, 2010 at 1:41 PM, Liz Quilty <liz(a)velofille.com> wrote:>>> On 5 February 2010 13:17, Ronnie Collinson <notthinking(a)gmail.com> wrote:>>>> 44km, Liz are you crazy? Hopefully theres others turning up, would be>> rather boring if no one else did>>>> Clearly I am crazy. I Signed upf ro the Oxfam 100km walk this year, its just> training. DOing it as a part of a team. Incidentally feel free to sponsor us> - need to make $2500 in donations to just enter, its for a good cause though> :)>>
http://www.oxfam.org.nz/events/teams.asp?a=show_team_pages&eventid=24&teamid =3865>>
Liz>>>>>> On 2/5/10, James Pluck <papabearnz(a)gmail.com> wrote:>> > I'm planning on being there. Â Have a hp/compaq laptop that's been>> > loaned to me while my desktop is kaputnik and I've installed Ubuntu>> > 9.10 on it. Â Working well but I've no clue how to get the wifi going>> > (or even if it can be got going - it's an HP lappy after all!) >> >>> > This thing's a BRICK! Â Old school 1440x1080 native res!>> >>> > J>> >>> > On 5 February 2010 07:33, Rene Bartosh <kirjava(a)hblug.org.nz> wrote:>> >> Morning folks,>> >>>> >> Is anyone planning to attend this meeting? I have just moved to>> >> Hamilton from the Hawkes Bay and wouldn't mind popping in to meet a>> >> few WLUG people.>> >>>> >> Cheers,>> >>>> >> Rene>>
> On 5 February 2010 06:27, Meeting Reminder bot <bot(a)wlug.org.nz> wrote:>> >>> A reminder; the WLUG Fixit Meeting is tomorrow.>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>
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>>>>> >>> SaturdayWorkshop at Te Whanau Pūtahi>>
-------------->> >>> First Saturday workshop for 2010!!!>> ptahi/), the>> >>> community church at the end of Oxford Street.>> >>>>> >>>>> >>> We'll have the usual tables, power, various ISO's, Internet, coffee,>> >>> BBQ>> >>> lunch, etc.>> >>>>> >>> If there's something you specifically want to work on please menti on>> >>> it>>
on the mailing list in advance so we can study up beforehand or bring>> >>> any>> >>> necessary equipment.>>
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On 6 February 2010 15:42, Robert D Davidson <robert(a)datamatrix.co.nz> wrote:
Hi Wlug,
I was at the fixiit meeting today and asked Bruce how to install my PDF reader from Adobe. I think he said I should be able to read PDF files with Xsane. However I dont' have a scanner and the application won;t run.
What next?
If you use Gnome (default with Ubuntu), it comes with evince with can be used to view PDF files. Simply ciicking on a PDF file in nautilus will open the file. If for some reason you really want to use Adobe Acrobat Reader, you can follow these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AcrobatHowTo Again, I'm assuming you are using Ubuntu.

I installed Adobe Acrobat Reader using the installer from Adobe. It worked perfectly fine, and I think it also allowed viewing PDFs within Firefox. Sandy

I downloaded the file from Adobe and got a binary on my desktop but now I can't get any application to do anything with it and it won't run. Cheers Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chakat Sandwalker" <sandwalker(a)gmail.com> To: "Waikato Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [wlug] Senior Moment regarding PDF files
I installed Adobe Acrobat Reader using the installer from Adobe. It worked perfectly fine, and I think it also allowed viewing PDFs within Firefox.
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I downloaded the file from Adobe and got a binary on my desktop but now I can't get any application to do anything with it and it won't run.
You have to download the "Linux x86 (.deb)" file: http://get.adobe.com/reader/otherversions/ Ubuntu is a "debian"-based distribution and debian packages have the ".deb" extension. Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174

Hi Bruce and Peter, Thanks for your help I have got it sorted. I can open them with Document Viewer by right clicking in the search files utility. now. The Adobe download didn't install, error "not i386 archetiture" so I am giving it up for lost for now. Thanks anyway. Cheers Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Reutemann" <fracpete(a)gmail.com> To: "Waikato Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Sent: Saturday, February 06, 2010 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [wlug] Senior Moment regarding PDF files
I downloaded the file from Adobe and got a binary on my desktop but now I can't get any application to do anything with it and it won't run.
You have to download the "Linux x86 (.deb)" file: http://get.adobe.com/reader/otherversions/
Ubuntu is a "debian"-based distribution and debian packages have the ".deb" extension.
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Thanks for your help I have got it sorted. I can open them with Document Viewer by right clicking in the search files utility. now. The Adobe download didn't install, error "not i386 archetiture" so I am giving it up for lost for now.
You could always "force" the architecture (in other words: the installer won't complain that you're running 64bit), as the first comment on the following blog entry states: http://easierbuntu.blogspot.com/2008/02/installing-adobe-reader.html Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174

I really, STRONGLY advise against using Adobe's proprietary bloatware. Adobe's reader is 43M, evince (including libraries) is less than half a meg. And evince has a lot more useful functionality (not just less anti-features) On 7 February 2010 17:01, Peter Reutemann <fracpete(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for your help I have got it sorted. I can open them with Document Viewer by right clicking in the search files utility. now. The Adobe download didn't install, error "not i386 archetiture" so I am giving it up for lost for now.
You could always "force" the architecture (in other words: the installer won't complain that you're running 64bit), as the first comment on the following blog entry states:
http://easierbuntu.blogspot.com/2008/02/installing-adobe-reader.html
Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174 _______________________________________________ wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug
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Hi Bruce, O.K. I am a real masochist for these sorts of jobs. Please tell me how I load evince including all Bash Shell commands (Synaptic sucks) Cheers Robert On Sun, 2010-02-07 at 19:56 +1300, Bruce Kingsbury wrote:
I really, STRONGLY advise against using Adobe's proprietary bloatware. Adobe's reader is 43M, evince (including libraries) is less than half a meg. And evince has a lot more useful functionality (not just less anti-features)
On 7 February 2010 17:01, Peter Reutemann <fracpete(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for your help I have got it sorted. I can open them with Document Viewer by right clicking in the search files utility. now. The Adobe download didn't install, error "not i386 archetiture" so I am giving it up for lost for now.
You could always "force" the architecture (in other words: the installer won't complain that you're running 64bit), as the first comment on the following blog entry states:
http://easierbuntu.blogspot.com/2008/02/installing-adobe-reader.html
Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174 _______________________________________________ wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

evince is called "Document Viewer" in Ubuntu. You're already using it. Right-click on one of your PDF documents and select "Properties" (the last option on the menu) Then select the "Open With" tab. Click the radio button circle next to Document Viewer. (If Document viewer is not on the list, click Add and add it from the list of available applications) then click the "Close" button.
From then on you should be able to read ANY PDF simply by double-clicking it's icon.
On 7 February 2010 20:06, Robert D Davidson <robert(a)datamatrix.co.nz> wrote:
Hi Bruce,
O.K. I am a real masochist for these sorts of jobs. Please tell me how I load evince including all Bash Shell commands (Synaptic sucks)
Cheers
Robert
On Sun, 2010-02-07 at 19:56 +1300, Bruce Kingsbury wrote:
I really, STRONGLY advise against using Adobe's proprietary bloatware. Adobe's reader is 43M, evince (including libraries) is less than half a meg. And evince has a lot more useful functionality (not just less anti-features)
On 7 February 2010 17:01, Peter Reutemann <fracpete(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Thanks for your help I have got it sorted. I can open them with Document Viewer by right clicking in the search files utility. now. The Adobe download didn't install, error "not i386 archetiture" so I am giving it up for lost for now.
You could always "force" the architecture (in other words: the installer won't complain that you're running 64bit), as the first comment on the following blog entry states:
http://easierbuntu.blogspot.com/2008/02/installing-adobe-reader.html
Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174 _______________________________________________ wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug
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I really, STRONGLY advise against using Adobe's proprietary bloatware. Adobe's reader is 43M, evince (including libraries) is less than half a meg. And evince has a lot more useful functionality (not just less anti-features)
I agree with the bloatware, but I'm not sure whether evince, kpdf or okular support Adobe forms. Depending on that, you might have to bite the bullet. Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174

Here's an example PDF form that I created in OpenOffice; http://pirateparty.net.nz/files/application.pdf I am able to enter text in the fields in evince. I don't know about saving/submitting though (because we chose not to do any of that) but as near as I can tell evince supports PDF forms just fine. On 7 February 2010 20:14, Peter Reutemann <fracpete(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I really, STRONGLY advise against using Adobe's proprietary bloatware. Adobe's reader is 43M, evince (including libraries) is less than half a meg. And evince has a lot more useful functionality (not just less anti-features)
I agree with the bloatware, but I'm not sure whether evince, kpdf or okular support Adobe forms. Depending on that, you might have to bite the bullet.
Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174 _______________________________________________ wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug
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Here's an example PDF form that I created in OpenOffice; http://pirateparty.net.nz/files/application.pdf
I am able to enter text in the fields in evince. I don't know about saving/submitting though (because we chose not to do any of that) but as near as I can tell evince supports PDF forms just fine.
Awesome! That's good news. :-) Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174

If you are running Ubuntu or Debian and cannot open the PDF file simply by clicking on it, it is exceptionally likely that it is simply NOT a PDF file. You have most likely downloaded an interstitial page or 404 error instead of the PDF file you wanted. The first workshop we ever ran, I had a user turn up who had spend the last few days (it may have been weeks) trying to compile a PDF reader from source in Ubuntu. It turned out that the PDF file he had downloaded was corrupt and when we downloaded it again correctly it opened immediately in evince. another possibility is that pdf's have somehow become unassociated with evince. Right click on your 'pdf' file and select properties, make sure it is actually a pdf file, go to 'open with' and make sure that it's trying to open it with evince. On 6 February 2010 22:11, Robert D Davidson <robert(a)datamatrix.co.nz> wrote:
I downloaded the file from Adobe and got a binary on my desktop but now I can't get any application to do anything with it and it won't run.
Cheers
Robert
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I installed Adobe Acrobat Reader using the installer from Adobe. It worked perfectly fine, and I think it also allowed viewing PDFs within Firefox.
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another possibility is that pdf's have somehow become unassociated with evince. Right click on your 'pdf' file and select properties, make sure it is actually a pdf file, go to 'open with' and make sure that it's trying to open it with evince.
Just checking here, in Debian (and presumably Ubuntu) the correct program is called "Document Viewer" -- the icon for it is the letter 'e' drawn in a similar style to Acrobat's letter A logo.

On 6 February 2010 18:42, Robert D Davidson <robert(a)datamatrix.co.nz> wrote:
Hi Wlug,
I was at the fixiit meeting today and asked Bruce how to install my PDF reader from Adobe. I think he said I should be able to read PDF files with Xsane. However I dont' have a scanner and the application won;t run.
'evince' It should be installed by default (in any reasonable distro) and you just double-click a pdf file to open it.
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Bruce Kingsbury
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jaytee@clear.net.nz
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Peter Reutemann
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Robert D Davidson
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