Hey Daniel, sorry to be unspecific, what I mean by "I cant access them" if that I see the icons for the machines on my network, but when I click on those machines, no files or directories of the machines that I am trying to access appear, like what you would see if you had a properly configured and set up network. Im using, or atleast trying to configure my pppoe to access the internet via my windows laptop, because the modem I have, according to the folks at linmodems.org, does not have 64bit support, and probably never will have, since the folks that manufacture my modem are not willing to release thier source code so that linux developers can compile drivers needed for its operation. As you will recall, I have a usb modem, which also doesnt have driver support, and is thus unavailable to use under linux. Also, with my Acer being only a couple of months old, it does not have a serial port that I may try connecting a serial modem to, so that option is also unavailable to me. I will install Samba on my Acer Linux desktop, and have already enabled sharing on my folders on my Windows Vista laptop, however, the problem that I have is that under Heron, I cannot get my pppoe settings to 'stick' as it were, as soon as I click on them, they deselect themselves and uncheck the pppoe box. This is what I am trying to investigate the cause of. This is all very frustrating but I am not going to give up because I believe in the principles behind Linux and the open source software community, I just have to do a heck of a lot of learning FAST. Cheers Glenn.
Im using, or atleast trying to configure my pppoe to access the internet via my windows laptop, because the modem I have, according to the folks at linmodems.org, does not have 64bit support, and probably never will have, since the folks that manufacture my modem are not willing to release thier source code so that linux developers can compile drivers needed for its operation. As you will recall, I have a usb modem, which also doesnt have driver support, and is thus unavailable to use under linux. Also, with my Acer being only a couple of months old, it does not have a serial port that I may try connecting a serial modem to, so that option is also unavailable to me.
To connect via your Windows machine, the only thing you should need to do is turn on 'connection sharing' on the windows machine. The Ubuntu machine will detect and use that connection automatically (via the magic of DHCP)
I will install Samba on my Acer Linux desktop, and have already enabled sharing on my folders on my Windows Vista laptop, however, the problem that I have is that under Heron, I cannot get my pppoe settings to 'stick' as it were, as soon as I click on them, they deselect themselves and uncheck the pppoe box. This is what I am trying to investigate the cause of.
Simple answer 'because there's nothing to connect to'. pppoe is used to connect to the net via a specific type of ADSL router that bridges pppoe to pppoa. Even then, the vast majority of ADSL routers do the pppoa negotiation themselves and simply provide a plain IP connection. If you're not using ADSL then pppoe is something you almost certainly don't need and have no use for.
Hi Glenn, Please keep this onlist. I'm not the only person that can help you, and other people can benefit from the answers as well.
sorry to be unspecific, what I mean by "I cant access them" if that I see the icons for the machines on my network, but when I click on those machines, no files or directories of the machines that I am trying to access appear, like what you would see if you had a properly configured and set up network.
You'll need to enable shared folders on each machine before you can see them. Follow the notes in my other email on this. If you can ping the other machine's ip address, it means your network is working.
Im using, or atleast trying to configure my pppoe to access the internet via my windows laptop, because the modem I have, according to the folks at linmodems.org, does not have 64bit support, and probably never will have, since the folks that manufacture my modem are not willing to release thier source code so that linux developers can compile drivers needed for its operation.
PPPoE won't help you with this. You need to enable Internet connection sharing on the windows machine. You can then connect to the internet from windows, and it will share the connection to other computers on your network - eg, your linux box. Your linux system will then connect *over the ethernet network*, through your windows computer. No PPPoE is involved. http://www.networkclue.com/os/Windows/winxp/ics.aspx
As you will recall, I have a usb modem, which also doesnt have driver support, and is thus unavailable to use under linux. Also, with my Acer being only a couple of months old, it does not have a serial port that I may try connecting a serial modem to, so that option is also unavailable to me.
You can get USB serial adapters which will let you do this. In general, most of these problems stop surfacing now because very few people still have dialup internet. Most people have DSL these days, and while a lot of the free DSL routers you get with your connection are USB based, it's very easy to purchase a full ethernet router which will do the job. You used to be able to get dialup routers which did the same thing (plug a serial modem into them, they connect to the internet, and share the connection to your PCs), but I doubt this is a feasible option. I'm sorry that we can't be more help remotely. It's hard enough troubleshooting this stuff via email, but it's also been years since I did anything involving getting winmodems to work. If you want to try ICS stuff again, can you please * verify that you've set ICS up, sharing the modem with your LAN, under windows * run "ipconfig" in a command shell in windows and check that you have IP addresses allocated - should look like 192.168.X.Y or 10.X.Y.Z where X Y Z might be anything. Send me the output from this command * run "/sbin/ifconfig " in a terminal in linux and check that your network interface (probably eth0) has an IP address that looks very similar to the windows one. Send me the output from this command. * run "/sbin/route -n" in a terminal in linux, and verify that the line that starts with "0.0.0.0" has your windows IP address in the second column. Send me the output from this as well. * If the above two tests aren't true, verify that your network in linux is set to dynamic or automatically assign or roaming mode (all different names for the same thing, not sure what you'll see). * If the IP address you got above for linux started with 169, it means that either ICS isn't set up properly, or your computers aren't connected properly. You've said you can ping the other computer, so i assume this is probably OK * assuming the "route" test above is correct, you can ping the windows laptop, and the windows laptop is connected to the internet, try to ping a computer on the internet. For example, open a terminal, and run "ping 219.88.251.16". If that works, you're on the internet just fine. * If the above works fine, and you still can't browse the internet from, say, firefox, then your DNS settings are probably wrong. Try going to a website by using its IP address. For example, the WLUG wiki is at 60.234.66.116. Load up firefox, and go to http://60.234.66.116/. * If the above works, then you need to fix your DNS settings. We'll sort that when we get to it * If it doesn't work, then we need to look at other things still.
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Glenn Stuart Morrissey