I've noticed that my sendmail daemon has loads (57,000+) files in it's mqueue directory. I'm also getting lots of "grew WorkList for /var/spool/mqueue to 5000" type messages in my logs. I guess these log messages are related in some manner to the huge number of old messages in the mqueue dir. I was just looking at some of these messages and they date back quite a while. Back to June etc. Why has sendmail not purged these failed or delayed messages? I also note that I get quite a lot of: sendmail[29533]: i6IGZcl12816: to=<er(a)deeper.co.nz>, delay=49+11:13:30, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=cyrus, pri=121373, relay=localhost, dsn=5.1.1, stat=User unknown sendmail[29533]: i6IGZcl12816: i863nAl29533: DSN: User unknown sendmail[29533]: i863nAl29533: to=<paulfrenchvn(a)base.yonsei.ac.kr>, delay=00:00:03, xdelay=00:00:03, mailer=esmtp, pri=31301, relay=base.yonsei.ac.kr. [165.132.77.200], dsn=5.1.1, stat=User unknown sendmail[29533]: i863nAl29533: i863nAm29533: return to sender: User unknown sendmail[29533]: i863nAm29533: to=postmaster, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=cyrus, pri=31401, relay=localhost [[UNIX: /var/imap/socket/lmtp]], dsn=5.6.0, stat=Service unavailable sendmail[29533]: i863nAl29533: Losing ./qfi863nAl29533: savemail panic sendmail[29533]: i863nAl29533: SYSERR(root): savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere Fortunately this is primarily because of spam but shouldn't the double bounce at least be delivered to postmaster on hostility? I set up a specific account for postmaster on our cyrus IMAP server. And it certainly gets a lot of other spam and virus bounces. Perhaps this is all related somehow? Anyone here experience in the black art of sendmail who might be able to enlighten me? Regards -- Oliver Jones » Director » oliver(a)deeperdesign.com » +64 (21) 41 2238 Deeper Design Limited » +64 (7) 377 3328 » www.deeperdesign.com
On Mon, 6 Sep 2004, Oliver Jones wrote:
I've noticed that my sendmail daemon has loads (57,000+) files in it's mqueue directory. I'm also getting lots of "grew WorkList for /var/spool/mqueue to 5000" type messages in my logs. I guess these log messages are related in some manner to the huge number of old messages in the mqueue dir.
I was just looking at some of these messages and they date back quite a while. Back to June etc. Why has sendmail not purged these failed or delayed messages?
Possibly because it will try very hard not to just throw mail away. Are the files qf* and df*, or Qf* and Df*? The latter are files that Sendmail won't process - it's essentially put them aside for human intervention.
I also note that I get quite a lot of:
sendmail[29533]: i863nAm29533: to=postmaster, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=cyrus, pri=31401, relay=localhost [[UNIX: /var/imap/socket/lmtp]], dsn=5.6.0, stat=Service unavailable sendmail[29533]: i863nAl29533: Losing ./qfi863nAl29533: savemail panic sendmail[29533]: i863nAl29533: SYSERR(root): savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere
Sendmail tried to deliver that double-bounce, and failed because of an error from your local delivery agent. Does the Cyrus side log things anywhere? It ought to.
Perhaps this is all related somehow? Anyone here experience in the black art of sendmail who might be able to enlighten me?
Aside from the obvious (and I'm sure a million people will tell you all about the evils of Sendmail; I'm not one of them), it seems there's a problem with the Sendmail/Cyrus integration here. Hunting that down might shed some light on the rest of it. HTH Cheers Richard -- Richard Stevenson "Oh God!" "'Smith' will suffice." -- The Matrix Reloaded
Possibly because it will try very hard not to just throw mail away. Are the files qf* and df*, or Qf* and Df*? The latter are files that Sendmail won't process - it's essentially put them aside for human intervention.
There are 16000 odd Qf files and 21 Df files. Most of the rest are xf, df and qf files.
Sendmail tried to deliver that double-bounce, and failed because of an error from your local delivery agent. Does the Cyrus side log things anywhere? It ought to.
It appears that the problem pertains to "554 5.6.0 Message contains bare newlines" errors. Cyrus will not store mails like this and as the postmaster account is on a Cyrus server it bounces the bounce and sendmail panics. I have the E=\r\n def in my cyrus mailer definition too..
Aside from the obvious (and I'm sure a million people will tell you all about the evils of Sendmail; I'm not one of them), it seems there's a problem with the Sendmail/Cyrus integration here. Hunting that down might shed some light on the rest of it.
I'm not fan of sendmail but it is all I know. :) I've never bothered to learn postfix or exim et al. And getting them installed on this shitty RH7.1 server could be tricky. Regards -- Oliver Jones » Director » oliver(a)deeperdesign.com » +64 (21) 41 2238 Deeper Design Limited » +64 (7) 377 3328 » www.deeperdesign.com
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