Hi, Orcon sponsor the WLUG by hosting Hoiho, the server that runs the wiki and user accounts. We hope that our members support Orcon wherever possible, and as such would like to point out that Orcon have recently announced their new broadband plans, which can be seen at http://orcon.net.nz/products/bitstream/newplans. Regards, Craig
We hope that our members support Orcon wherever possible, and as such would like to point out that Orcon have recently announced their new broadband plans, which can be seen at http://orcon.net.nz/products/bitstream/newplans.
I'm on Orcon here, IMHO they are the best ISP I've used yet (and I've tried quite a few) Pity the unlimited 256k plan is now only 40G though.
On Tuesday 21 March 2006 14:33, Craig Box wrote:
I'm on Orcon here, IMHO they are the best ISP I've used yet (and I've tried quite a few)
Pity the unlimited 256k plan is now only 40G though.
"don't thank us, thank Telecom"
Remember, Telecom have stopped banking on average usage being 10Gb, and reduced it to about 3Gb.
Craig
On another mailing list I follow Orcon have been dragged through the mud over some of the new pricing arrangements, but its been pointed out (as you are also) that Orcon is only the first ISP to follow through on Telecoms changes. IOW other ISPs announcements will be in the same vein shortly and none of them can help it
On Tuesday 21 March 2006 14:36, Shane wrote:
On another mailing list I follow Orcon have been dragged through the mud over some of the new pricing arrangements, but its been pointed out (as you are also) that Orcon is only the first ISP to follow through on Telecoms changes. IOW other ISPs announcements will be in the same vein shortly and none of them can help it
-On Wednesday 15 March 2006 20:15, Wayne Kampjes wrote: -> >From: "Ian Batterbee" -> > In other words, If I download between 9 and 11GB in a month, I'll be -> > paying $10 more than I did previously. -> -> It's called "the law of averages", your problem is you are Joe Average -> or better. -> -> The ADSL "line" that Telecom supply has a sustained information rate of -> 25kbs which works out to a maximum download + upload capacity of 16gig -> per month. -> -> By lowering the usage limit to 4GB and then charging excess they are -> actually lowering the available/dedicated bandwidth that is being -> supplied to each user (within the price). -> -> So the actual "Sustained Information Rate" (i.e. the dedicated bandwidth -> you are paying for in the base price) is 25k * 4 / 16 or about 8k bits per -> second. -> -> So we have 8 kilobit per second "Broadband" for $1 per day, that should -> kick us up the OECD charts a bit :) -> -> What Telecom has actually done is raised the "average" price of -> Broadband but lowered the "minimum" cost. Claiming that they have -> lowered the price of Broadband is a bit rich because price comparisons -> are normally done with an average of prices. -> -> Under the old UBS pricing scheme if the average usage of each user -> started to increase (as it should/will do) then Telecom would not make -> any more money; the new scheme solves this issue, as you have found -> out. -> Intersesting reasoning. Those especially on higher speed plans have commented that they cannot justify the increased costs. It would seem that Ihug and others who have not yet signed up to the latest round of Telecom contracts have been given the green light by the Comerce Commission to seek out alternative deals even if they have to go with Telecom in the interim. Yay for open market ideals! Unfortunately Orcon have signed so may now be locked into their contractual commitment. This being the case, changes from them seem unlikely? -- You buttered your bread, now lie in it.
Actually, the commerce commission have ruled the contract terms illegal, and are investigating telecom over them. Orcon may have the benefits now, and get the better deal later too. Only the big guns have the muscle to fight telecom, the commissioner is too weak to act alone and the politicians have yet to make up their minds July at the earliest, And by then Telecom will roll out ADSL2 and it all starts again. Oh for some other means of delivery other than Jet-stream. of course, If I move as planned, I won't even have that any more, its back to dial up. which is all there is for most of New Zealand. So shop whining and get back to to work, or Queen Helen and Princess Theresa will have to send the brute squad to sort you out ;-) Lets face it, unless someone can bypass Telecom completely its just the same old, same old, Maybe vodafone can succeed where whosh failed, but based on 3G range, I wont be holding my breath Anyway, I am now officially Off Topic, so I'll end here . Nuff Said
It would seem that Ihug and others who have not yet signed up to the latest round of Telecom contracts have been given the green light by the Comerce Commission to seek out alternative deals even if they have to go with Telecom in the interim. Yay for open market ideals!
Unfortunately Orcon have signed so may now be locked into their contractual commitment. This being the case, changes from them seem unlikely?
-- You buttered your bread, now lie in it.
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