
The public comment period for proposed amendments to the Patents Act expired on March 11, “so a meeting is now the best way we have of communicating with the politicians and telling them what the issues are,” says NZOSS president Peter Harrison. Full story at: http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/NL/9A6B2014750A3A95CC256FCA002B46C1 If the LUG or any person wishes to make a submission time is running out. Do our political contacts have any guidelines we can post for submissions on patents, esp with regard the NZ free trade agreements.

Gavin Denby wrote:
The public comment period for proposed amendments to the Patents Act expired on March 11, “so a meeting is now the best way we have of communicating with the politicians and telling them what the issues are,” says NZOSS president Peter Harrison.
Full story at: http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/NL/9A6B2014750A3A95CC256FCA002B46C1
March 11 has been and gone? Does that not mean there's nothing we can do, and it's in the hands of NZOSS? We probably should have done something about this. Hindsight, etc. What we can do is review and finalise http://www.wlug.org.nz/ParliamentaryQuestions into a coherent, well thought out list of questions. When they are "done", I'll email them to Rodney Hide, who has offered to ask them for us. This has lapsed a bit, and we should probably chase it. How about the end of this month as a deadline? At that point, I'll email him with what we have. Regards, Greig McGill

If you read the full article you see that there is information on a meeting. so ... 1. I am certain they will present written as well as spoken evidence of problems at that meeting, so developers can outline why this is bad and it can help peter and the team they have there. Better still maybe some can attend. 2. you can still write privately to committee members and as them to consider your position and 3 you can write to part leaders and spokespersons to outline concerns over the issues The more its discussed the more they realise it of concern. but guidelines like dont slam companies, or accuse people of global conspiracies ... etc. all help. Remember these are just people trying to understand complex issues, the big companies and unions .. etc. will have slick talkers with lots of snake oil, if we make clear and understandable presentations, then they can ask questions which will break the slick presentations and maybe expose the side of the discussion they dont want the committee to look at. of course if we look like closed minded bigots with a head full of global conspiracy theories and spitting venom against a single entity then we get instantly dismissed. Hopefully this clarifies my earlier, and not so well thought out post. Next time I'll read my post a few times before hitting send.......... (Yeah Right) Greig McGill wrote:
Gavin Denby wrote:
The public comment period for proposed amendments to the Patents Act expired on March 11, “so a meeting is now the best way we have of communicating with the politicians and telling them what the issues are,” says NZOSS president Peter Harrison.
Full story at: http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/NL/9A6B2014750A3A95CC256FCA002B46C1
March 11 has been and gone? Does that not mean there's nothing we can do, and it's in the hands of NZOSS? We probably should have done something about this. Hindsight, etc.

On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 08:49 +1200, Gavin Denby wrote:
The public comment period for proposed amendments to the Patents Act expired on March 11, “so a meeting is now the best way we have of communicating with the politicians and telling them what the issues are,” says NZOSS president Peter Harrison.
I'm afraid even that deadline was a little late. I looked into this at the start of March. The deadline for public submissions on reviewing NZ's patent policy was 26 July, 2002. This recent deadline (11 March, 2005) was for public submissions on the draft legislation that they have written up, ie to say whether or not the draft legislation matches up to/implements the findings of the review. I think it is a bit late to be making submissions on exactly what is/isn't patentable. Quote from the Ministry of Economic Development: "The purpose of consulting on the draft Bill is not to repeat or re-open the policy development process. Rather, it is an acknowledgement that the detail of patent legislation can have important implications for those that deal with the patent system." This is all online: http://www.med.govt.nz/buslt/int_prop/patentsreview/index.html Read this to see what the policy review thinks about software patents: http://www.med.govt.nz/buslt/int_prop/patentsreview/discussion/patentsreview... It doesn't look good. John

That is no reason to give up. If there is enough protest over the issue they can still re-think it and send it back to a select committee. Regards On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 09:46 +1200, John R. McPherson wrote:
On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 08:49 +1200, Gavin Denby wrote:
The public comment period for proposed amendments to the Patents Act expired on March 11, “so a meeting is now the best way we have of communicating with the politicians and telling them what the issues are,” says NZOSS president Peter Harrison.
I'm afraid even that deadline was a little late. I looked into this at the start of March.
The deadline for public submissions on reviewing NZ's patent policy was 26 July, 2002. This recent deadline (11 March, 2005) was for public submissions on the draft legislation that they have written up, ie to say whether or not the draft legislation matches up to/implements the findings of the review. I think it is a bit late to be making submissions on exactly what is/isn't patentable.
-- Oliver Jones » Roving Code Warrior oliver(a)deeperdesign.com » +64 (21) 41 2238 » www.deeperdesign.com

NZOSS has a free mailing list that you are welcome to join and assist in being pro-active an issues such as these. http://www.nzoss.org.nz/wiki/index.php?pagename=MailingLists Regards Mike Oliver Jones wrote:
That is no reason to give up. If there is enough protest over the issue they can still re-think it and send it back to a select committee.
Regards
On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 09:46 +1200, John R. McPherson wrote:
On Wed, 2005-03-23 at 08:49 +1200, Gavin Denby wrote:
The public comment period for proposed amendments to the Patents Act expired on March 11, “so a meeting is now the best way we have of communicating with the politicians and telling them what the issues are,” says NZOSS president Peter Harrison.
I'm afraid even that deadline was a little late. I looked into this at the start of March.
The deadline for public submissions on reviewing NZ's patent policy was 26 July, 2002. This recent deadline (11 March, 2005) was for public submissions on the draft legislation that they have written up, ie to say whether or not the draft legislation matches up to/implements the findings of the review. I think it is a bit late to be making submissions on exactly what is/isn't patentable.
-- Oliver Jones » Roving Code Warrior oliver(a)deeperdesign.com » +64 (21) 41 2238 » www.deeperdesign.com
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participants (5)
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Gavin Denby
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Greig McGill
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John R. McPherson
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Michael Honeyfield
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Oliver Jones