Ubuntu's reputation dented?

I've had a few problems since upgrading from Ubuntu 6.10 to 7.04 I'm still researching what to do about them. It seems I'm not the only one with problems. The ones I've got are: 1. USB flash drive is no longer auto-mounted. System message log notes insertion and removal. 2. System doesn't appear to recognise any media in DVD/CD drive. 3. Swap file has to be mounted manually. The last problem may go back to 6.10 ... it was because of that problem that I decided to upgrade. Seems that the swap file was corrupted a while back. Has anyone else done the upgrade? Did you experience any of the above problems? Michael

On 26/04/07, Michael McDonald <mikencolleen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I've had a few problems since upgrading from Ubuntu 6.10 to 7.04 I'm still researching what to do about them. It seems I'm not the only one with problems. The ones I've got are:
1. USB flash drive is no longer auto-mounted. System message log notes insertion and removal.
2. System doesn't appear to recognise any media in DVD/CD drive.
3. Swap file has to be mounted manually.
The last problem may go back to 6.10 ... it was because of that problem that I decided to upgrade. Seems that the swap file was corrupted a while back.
Has anyone else done the upgrade? Did you experience any of the above problems?
I've done the upgrade, and definitely CDs and USB drives still automatically mount. Not sure about swap, since I've never looked, but I assume their is no problems there. One thing that I would suggest is checking permissions of /dev/cdrom (and the like) and make sure you have the correct permissions. -- simon

Michael McDonald wrote:
I've had a few problems since upgrading from Ubuntu 6.10 to 7.04 I'm still researching what to do about them. It seems I'm not the only one with problems. The ones I've got are:
1. USB flash drive is no longer auto-mounted. System message log notes insertion and removal.
2. System doesn't appear to recognise any media in DVD/CD drive.
3. Swap file has to be mounted manually.
The last problem may go back to 6.10 ... it was because of that problem that I decided to upgrade. Seems that the swap file was corrupted a while back.
Has anyone else done the upgrade? Did you experience any of the above problems?
The entries for hard disk partitions in my /etc/fstab were converted from /dev/hda1 style to UUID by the upgrade. Perhaps it didn't convert your's because the swap partition was corrupt? I haven't tried mounting a CD yet, but i can't burn one as it claims there is nothing in the drive. I did my upgrade with apt-get, despite the Ubuntu wiki recommended against it, so that may have something to do with it.

I had to unplug my usb keyboard and plug it back in after doing the upgrade. Other weirdness with the keymap changing, but I'm willing to chock it up to faulty hardware and my own mucking about never installing the keymappings right in the first place. Or maybe it's a bug/feature in Gnome, that you can have a different keymap per workspace. John On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 05:12:42PM +1200, Craig Box wrote:
Has anyone else done the upgrade? Did you experience any of the above problems?
At the risk of offering nothing more than a "me too", I have observed none of these problems. Your mileage may vary.
Craig
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I had to unplug my usb keyboard and plug it back in after doing the upgrade. Other weirdness with the keymap changing, but I'm willing to chock it up to faulty hardware and my own mucking about never installing the keymappings right in the first place. Or maybe it's a bug/feature in Gnome, that you can have a different keymap per workspace.
John
On Thu, Apr 26, 2007 at 05:12:42PM +1200, Craig Box wrote:
Has anyone else done the upgrade? Did you experience any of the above problems?
At the risk of offering nothing more than a "me too", I have observed none of these problems. Your mileage may vary.
Craig
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On 26/04/07, Michael McDonald <mikencolleen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I've had a few problems since upgrading from Ubuntu 6.10 to 7.04 I'm still researching what to do about them. It seems I'm not the only one with problems.
This could be the start of a comedy. You all know the song ... "I know an old lady who swallowed a fly ...". I deleted my old Fedora partition and tried a fresh install. The installer recognised that I had another version - and initiated the "migrate documents and settings" process. That crashed before offering me any options. One good thing was that I did manage to get a crash report away. Then I discovered my upgraded (but not 100%) system no longer booted properly. I haven't written down the errors, but more than likely it's because of the partitioning changes and the logical volume management system. Tried booting Knoppix 5.0.1 from CD, but that failed to boot. Fortunately MepisLite boots OK from CD and it can "see" my partitions and files. And so the saga continues. There's still lots of other possibilities to try. I'll let you know how I get on. Michael

On 30/04/07, Michael McDonald <mikencolleen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
And so the saga continues. There's still lots of other possibilities to try. I'll let you know how I get on.
I didn't get there - I've given up on Feisty! Unless "something" shows up, I'll wait until Grumpy or Grizzly or whatever the next version will be named. The installer crashes every time on the Migration Assistant. It makes no difference whether or not another version of Ubuntu was present, so that leaves one of two things as the most likely candidate for the problem - the Windows partition on hda1 pr the extended partition on hdb. With the standard install there appears to be no way to avoid the Migration Assistant. Perhaps it can be bypassed with the Alternate CD? Had one other interesting problem. Gparted caused one little hiccup when I deleted a partition on hdb - it renumbered/renamed the other partitions, and GRUB fell over when I rebooted. After the (re)install of Edgy, GRUB functioned OK - but I imagine that if I'd still had another version of Linux on my system, it would would have had a hernia as a result of that change. I'm beginning to think that upgrades are a recipe for trouble and that clean installs are much better - two troublesome upgrades (Fedora Core 4/5 and Ubuntu 6.10/7.04) within 12 months doesn't give me a great deal of confidence in the process. So, I'm back to where I was ... except that I've got to reinstall some extra software and set printers etc up again ... but it's also cleaned out the stuff I no longer use. Michael

Just to add to the flow of comments - I managed 3 successfull upgrades from Efty to Feisty (two laptops - one server) basically following the notes here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading but only using the "Network upgrade for Ubuntu servers" method (all at the command line). I had a number of restarts, and config resolution issues - most notibly having to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg-core, and problems around acper-acpi - but other than that - it got there in the end. Cheers. On Mon, Apr 30, 2007 at 08:29:38PM +1200, Michael McDonald wrote:
On 30/04/07, Michael McDonald <mikencolleen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
And so the saga continues. There's still lots of other possibilities to try. I'll let you know how I get on.
I didn't get there - I've given up on Feisty! Unless "something" shows up, I'll wait until Grumpy or Grizzly or whatever the next version will be named. The installer crashes every time on the Migration Assistant. It makes no difference whether or not another version of Ubuntu was present, so that leaves one of two things as the most likely candidate for the problem - the Windows partition on hda1 pr the extended partition on hdb.
With the standard install there appears to be no way to avoid the Migration Assistant. Perhaps it can be bypassed with the Alternate CD?
Had one other interesting problem. Gparted caused one little hiccup when I deleted a partition on hdb - it renumbered/renamed the other partitions, and GRUB fell over when I rebooted. After the (re)install of Edgy, GRUB functioned OK - but I imagine that if I'd still had another version of Linux on my system, it would would have had a hernia as a result of that change.
I'm beginning to think that upgrades are a recipe for trouble and that clean installs are much better - two troublesome upgrades (Fedora Core 4/5 and Ubuntu 6.10/7.04) within 12 months doesn't give me a great deal of confidence in the process.
So, I'm back to where I was ... except that I've got to reinstall some extra software and set printers etc up again ... but it's also cleaned out the stuff I no longer use.
Michael
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On 4/30/07, Michael McDonald <mikencolleen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 30/04/07, Michael McDonald <mikencolleen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
And so the saga continues. There's still lots of other possibilities to try. I'll let you know how I get on.
I didn't get there - I've given up on Feisty! Unless "something" shows up, I'll wait until Grumpy or Grizzly or whatever the next version will be named. The installer crashes every time on the Migration Assistant. It makes no difference whether or not another version of Ubuntu was present, so that leaves one of two things as the most likely candidate for the problem - the Windows partition on hda1 pr the extended partition on hdb.
Similar story at http://apcmag.com/5981/hands_on_with_ubuntu_7_04_part_1 Were you able to get enough info to log a bug? -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/ Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz WAND Network Research Group

On 30/04/07, Ian McDonald <ian.mcdonald(a)jandi.co.nz> wrote:
Were you able to get enough info to log a bug?
The crash handler reported the problem for me. As long as that output is not going into a big black hole, the Ubuntu team should be getting a lot of good data. Might be getting swamped! Michael
participants (8)
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Craig Box
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Ian McDonald
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John Billings
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Jonathan Purvis
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Michael McDonald
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Piers Harding
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Sam Douglas
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Simon Green