Announcing the Preview Release of Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger)
I will have a copy of this very soon if anyone is interested and doesn't want to download it themselves. -- Craig The Ubuntu team is proud to announce the Preview Release of Ubuntu 5.10 - codenamed "Breezy Badger". The Preview Release includes both Install CDs and bootable Live CDs for three architectures. Ubuntu is a Linux distribution for your desktop or server, with a fast and easy install, regular releases, a tight selection of excellent packages installed by default, every other package you can imagine available from the network, a commitment to security updates for 18 months after each release and professional technical support from many companies around the world. To Get Ubuntu 5.10 Preview -------------------------- Download Ubuntu 5.10 Preview here (choose the mirror closest to you): United States: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/ Europe: http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/ United Kingdom: http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/ Rest of the World: http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/ Please download using Bittorrent if possible. The final version of Ubuntu 5.10 is expected to be released in October. At that time, we will mail pressed CDs free of charge. To receive a complimentary copy of the Official Breezy Badger CD -- or a handful of them to give to your friends, your school or LUG -- place your request at the URL below. Remember that these CDs won't ship until after the final release in October. http://shipit.ubuntu.com/ About Ubuntu 5.10 Preview ------------------------- To see it all, you'll need to try the CD, but the highlights include: On the Desktop * GNOME 2.12 -- Very fresh... Released yesterday!! * OpenOffice.org 2.0 beta 2 * X.org 6.8.2 with wider hardware support * An enhanced tool for easily installing new applications (see "Add/Remove Programs" in the System Administration menu) * A new tool which makes it easy to install support for multiple languages (Language Selector) * Editable GNOME menus * Applications are now linked into the Launchpad infrastructure (new entries on the Help menus for translation and support) * Support for writing audio CDs (Serpentine) * Graphical boot process with progress bar (USplash) On the Server * PHP5 * Support for installing directly onto LVM volumes * Built-in thin client functionality produced in cooperation with the LTSP project (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto) * Simple NFS root setup with automatic hardware detection through initramfs-tools * Support for up to 4 gigabytes of RAM by default on 32-bit architectures * Kernel support for cluster filesystems (OCFS2 and GFS) Hardware Support Improvements * Linux 2.6.12.5 with many updated drivers from third parties * Further enhancements to laptop support (hot keys, and working suspend/resume on more models) * HP all-in-one printer/scanner devices are supported out of the box * Bluetooth input devices (such as keyboards and mice) are supported out of the box * Multiple audio devices are handled more gracefully (and one can easily select the default device) * 64-bit PowerPC kernel available Installation * A new OEM mode to simplify the process of preinstalling Ubuntu on computers for resale or redistribution * Automatically makes existing hard drive partitions available to the desktop * Simple "dual boot" configuration with automatic resizing of an existing installed OS * The second stage of the installation now has a progress bar "Under the hood" * GCC 4.0.1 * glibc 2.3.5 * New early userspace infrastructure based on initramfs-tools * More modular X.org packaging As always, Ubuntu includes the very best of the 100% FREE / LIBRE application software world, and each new release incorporates countless new features and bugfixes from the global development community. Feedback and Helping -------------------- If you would like to help shape Ubuntu, take a look at the list of ways you can participate at http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate/ Your comments, bug reports, patches and suggestions will help turn this Preview into the best release of Ubuntu ever. Please report bugs through Bugzilla: http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/ If you have a question, or if you think you may have found a bug but aren't sure, first try asking on the #ubuntu IRC channel on FreeNode, on the Ubuntu Users mailing list, or on the Ubuntu forums: http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ More Information ---------------- You can find out more about Ubuntu and about this preview release on our website, IRC channel and wiki. If you're new to Ubuntu, please visit: http://www.ubuntu.com/ To sign up for future Ubuntu announcements, please subscribe to Ubuntu's very low volume announcement list at: http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce
Ooooh. Sounds interesting. Only thing that really stopped me install Ubuntu on my laptop last time was the older code like OOo 1.1.x. This preview release looks nice. Might have to source a few copies when it is finally release. Re-evaluate my choice of FC4 etc. Though I must admit FC4 is working fine for me so far. Ray got Ubuntu to send him swags of CDs of the last version. What is the timeframe on the 5.10 final release? Regards On Fri, 2005-09-09 at 11:18 +1200, Craig Box wrote:
I will have a copy of this very soon if anyone is interested and doesn't want to download it themselves. -- Craig
The Ubuntu team is proud to announce the Preview Release of Ubuntu 5.10 - codenamed "Breezy Badger". The Preview Release includes both Install CDs and bootable Live CDs for three architectures.
Ubuntu is a Linux distribution for your desktop or server, with a fast and easy install, regular releases, a tight selection of excellent packages installed by default, every other package you can imagine available from the network, a commitment to security updates for 18 months after each release and professional technical support from many companies around the world.
To Get Ubuntu 5.10 Preview --------------------------
Download Ubuntu 5.10 Preview here (choose the mirror closest to you):
-- Oliver Jones > Roving Code Warrior > www.deeperdesign.com
Oliver Jones wrote:
Ooooh. Sounds interesting. Only thing that really stopped me install Ubuntu on my laptop last time was the older code like OOo 1.1.x. This preview release looks nice. Might have to source a few copies when it is finally release. Re-evaluate my choice of FC4 etc. Though I must admit FC4 is working fine for me so far.
Ray got Ubuntu to send him swags of CDs of the last version. What is the timeframe on the 5.10 final release?
I was told October 13th. shipit.ubuntu.com can take 6 weeks to deliver and apparently they'll process existing orders last so if you already got Warty, expect to wait! I downloaded ubuntu and kubuntu for the PPC already. It kicks ass!! What surprised me most is that it actually seems to be faster (on my old 300MHz PPC) I was expecting more features and larger code == slower which is the usual trend with every distro I've tried until now.
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 06:52 +1200, zcat wrote:
Ray got Ubuntu to send him swags of CDs of the last version. What is the timeframe on the 5.10 final release?
I was told October 13th. shipit.ubuntu.com can take 6 weeks to deliver and apparently they'll process existing orders last so if you already got Warty, expect to wait!
A long time... I got Warty CDs about 5 weeks after ordering them. I ordered hoary CDs the day after it released, they still haven't arrived... ShipIt is a great idea, but doesn't always work as well as would be hoped :) Cheers -- Matt Brown matt(a)mattb.net.nz Mob +64 275 611 544 www.mattb.net.nz
zcat wrote:
Oliver Jones wrote:
Ooooh. Sounds interesting. Only thing that really stopped me install Ubuntu on my laptop last time was the older code like OOo 1.1.x. This preview release looks nice. Might have to source a few copies when it is finally release. Re-evaluate my choice of FC4 etc. Though I must admit FC4 is working fine for me so far.
Ray got Ubuntu to send him swags of CDs of the last version. What is the timeframe on the 5.10 final release?
I was told October 13th. shipit.ubuntu.com can take 6 weeks to deliver and apparently they'll process existing orders last so if you already got Warty, expect to wait!
On behalf of the LUG, I got 100 CDs shipped "next day international" when they were released, and they were still a little bit late for the installfest. Assuming the new committee still choose to be blinkered by Ubuntu, we might schedule the next installfest to be slightly later next year, so we can get the same deal. I won't bother asking for it on behalf of the LUG for this release, but recommend that if people want Breezy CDs they just copy them themselves, as they do take a while to get here. Someone should get onto Canonical and see if shipit can subcontract Software Images or something :) Craig
Craig Box wrote:
Assuming the new committee still choose to be blinkered by Ubuntu, we might schedule the next installfest to be slightly later next year, so we can get the same deal.
I gather you disapprove of Ubuntu as the main supported distro?
Bnonn wrote:
Craig Box wrote:
Assuming the new committee still choose to be blinkered by Ubuntu, we might schedule the next installfest to be slightly later next year, so we can get the same deal.
I gather you disapprove of Ubuntu as the main supported distro?
Not at all; in fact I'm one of the most vocal supporters. The comment was in reference to a very angry disagreement with our stance which I received in the WLUG survey, full results of which will be shared at the AGM. Craig
Cool at last we all move to slackware ... ;-) No need to reply, but I just couldn't resist .... Ubuntu looks like a good choice in most cases so if it works for the lug keep it.
Not at all; in fact I'm one of the most vocal supporters. The comment was in reference to a very angry disagreement with our stance which I received in the WLUG survey, full results of which will be shared at the AGM.
on a side note its good to see the new boot times for Mandriva, hope a few more distros start looking at this too
///Snip while many distributions have been talking about speeding up the boot process, an area where no Linux distribution compares favourably with Microsoft Windows, it seems that the developers of Mandriva did not just talk - they simply did it! And the result? On our Pentium 4 test box with 384MB of RAM, Mandriva 2006 RC1 takes 23 seconds to boot into the console login prompt, and 52 seconds into full KDE (bypassing the KDM login screen)! This is a remarkable achievement when compared to SUSE Linux 10.0 RC1, which takes 108 seconds to boot into KDE, or Fedora Core, which needs 76 seconds to boot into GNOME on the same system. Snip/// Taken from Distrowatch weekly here : http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20050912
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 09:33 +1200, Gavin Denby wrote:
///Snip while many distributions have been talking about speeding up the boot process, an area where no Linux distribution compares favourably with Microsoft Windows, it seems that the developers of Mandriva did not just talk - they simply did it! And the result? On our Pentium 4 test box with 384MB of RAM, Mandriva 2006 RC1 takes 23 seconds to boot into the console login prompt, and 52 seconds into full KDE (bypassing the KDM login screen)! This is a remarkable achievement when compared to SUSE Linux 10.0 RC1, which takes 108 seconds to boot into KDE, or Fedora Core, which needs 76 seconds to boot into GNOME on the same system. Snip///
It's amazing how fast your kernel will boot if you take out the printk's completely.
Isn't that done just by adding the "quiet" kernel boot param? Regards On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 11:03 +1200, Gerwin van de Steeg wrote:
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 09:33 +1200, Gavin Denby wrote:
///Snip while many distributions have been talking about speeding up the boot process, an area where no Linux distribution compares favourably with Microsoft Windows, it seems that the developers of Mandriva did not just talk - they simply did it! And the result? On our Pentium 4 test box with 384MB of RAM, Mandriva 2006 RC1 takes 23 seconds to boot into the console login prompt, and 52 seconds into full KDE (bypassing the KDM login screen)! This is a remarkable achievement when compared to SUSE Linux 10.0 RC1, which takes 108 seconds to boot into KDE, or Fedora Core, which needs 76 seconds to boot into GNOME on the same system. Snip///
It's amazing how fast your kernel will boot if you take out the printk's completely.
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That's ok I guess for a full boot into KDE. My laptop boots to GDM in about 40 seconds and that is with its not exactly fast laptop HDD. I use the early login support in FC4 to do this. I also disabled a lot of daemon processes. I blogged about it. http://www.deeperdesign.com/2005/07/27/boot-fedora-core-faster/
while many distributions have been talking about speeding up the boot process, an area where no Linux distribution compares favourably with Microsoft Windows, it seems that the developers of Mandriva did not just talk - they simply did it! And the result? On our Pentium 4 test box with 384MB of RAM, Mandriva 2006 RC1 takes 23 seconds to boot into the console login prompt, and 52 seconds into full KDE (bypassing the KDM login screen)! This is a remarkable achievement when compared to SUSE Linux 10.0 RC1, which takes 108 seconds to boot into KDE, or Fedora Core, which needs 76 seconds to boot into GNOME on the same system.
-- Oliver Jones > Roving Code Warrior > www.deeperdesign.com
on a side note its good to see the new boot times for Mandriva, hope a few more distros start looking at this too
///Snip while many distributions have been talking about speeding up the boot process, an area where no Linux distribution compares favourably with Microsoft Windows, it seems that the developers of Mandriva did not just talk - they simply did it! And the result? On our Pentium 4 test box with 384MB of RAM, Mandriva 2006 RC1 takes 23 seconds to boot into the console login prompt, and 52 seconds into full KDE (bypassing the KDM login screen)! This is a remarkable achievement when compared to SUSE Linux 10.0 RC1, which takes 108 seconds to boot into KDE, or Fedora Core, which needs 76 seconds to boot into GNOME on the same system. Snip///
From Planet GNOME today: a Google Summer of Code project to reduce GNOME startup time (draft): http://www.gnome.org/~lcolitti/gnome-startup/analysis/
Craig
I gather you disapprove of Ubuntu as the main supported distro?
Not at all; in fact I'm one of the most vocal supporters. The comment was in reference to a very angry disagreement with our stance which I received in the WLUG survey, full results of which will be shared at the AGM.
Craig
I'm personally keen to know if there was a supporting reason behind the persons (people's) response or whether it was just an opportunity to voice ones religious view towards their choice of distro. At the end of the day, Ubuntu comes out of the box, installs easily, and works. That's the upshot of it, I thought that the committee made it crystal clear at the time.
Lindsay Druett wrote:
At the end of the day, Ubuntu comes out of the box, installs easily, and works. That's the upshot of it, I thought that the committee made it crystal clear at the time.
SOMEONE UNDERSTANDS US! :) You'll make a great Fist, Lins. :) G.
Lindsay Druett wrote:
At the end of the day, Ubuntu comes out of the box, installs easily, and works. That's the upshot of it, I thought that the committee made it crystal clear at the time.
Completely agree.. I commented something the same on the NZLUG list. Mike
I installed Ubuntu 5.04 on my server at home but It didn't want to boot off a simple Raid 1 disk pair from the installer :-( So I installed FC3 as the installed was quite happy to do that. If anyone has succesfully done that please let me know. The basic problem was that grub didn't write out a correct config during the install, the rest of the install process went ok. I also have 5.04 installed on my workstation, although I have not booted into linux for a while on my workstation, I have a question for someone who has been running Ubuntu for a while. What is the process of upgrading from one release to another, as it is I don't have anything important on my workstation so just doing a reinstall of the newer release is a simple option, but I would be interested to hear of anyone experiences of doing an upgrade. Raymond Craig Box wrote:
I will have a copy of this very soon if anyone is interested and doesn't want to download it themselves. -- Craig
The Ubuntu team is proud to announce the Preview Release of Ubuntu 5.10 - codenamed "Breezy Badger". The Preview Release includes both Install CDs and bootable Live CDs for three architectures.
Ubuntu is a Linux distribution for your desktop or server, with a fast and easy install, regular releases, a tight selection of excellent packages installed by default, every other package you can imagine available from the network, a commitment to security updates for 18 months after each release and professional technical support from many companies around the world.
To Get Ubuntu 5.10 Preview --------------------------
Download Ubuntu 5.10 Preview here (choose the mirror closest to you):
United States: http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/5.10/
Europe: http://se.releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/
United Kingdom: http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/
Rest of the World: http://releases.ubuntu.com/5.10/
Please download using Bittorrent if possible.
The final version of Ubuntu 5.10 is expected to be released in October. At that time, we will mail pressed CDs free of charge. To receive a complimentary copy of the Official Breezy Badger CD -- or a handful of them to give to your friends, your school or LUG -- place your request at the URL below. Remember that these CDs won't ship until after the final release in October.
About Ubuntu 5.10 Preview -------------------------
To see it all, you'll need to try the CD, but the highlights include:
On the Desktop
* GNOME 2.12 -- Very fresh... Released yesterday!! * OpenOffice.org 2.0 beta 2 * X.org 6.8.2 with wider hardware support * An enhanced tool for easily installing new applications (see "Add/Remove Programs" in the System Administration menu) * A new tool which makes it easy to install support for multiple languages (Language Selector) * Editable GNOME menus * Applications are now linked into the Launchpad infrastructure (new entries on the Help menus for translation and support) * Support for writing audio CDs (Serpentine) * Graphical boot process with progress bar (USplash)
On the Server
* PHP5 * Support for installing directly onto LVM volumes * Built-in thin client functionality produced in cooperation with the LTSP project (http://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThinClientHowto) * Simple NFS root setup with automatic hardware detection through initramfs-tools * Support for up to 4 gigabytes of RAM by default on 32-bit architectures * Kernel support for cluster filesystems (OCFS2 and GFS)
Hardware Support Improvements
* Linux 2.6.12.5 with many updated drivers from third parties * Further enhancements to laptop support (hot keys, and working suspend/resume on more models) * HP all-in-one printer/scanner devices are supported out of the box * Bluetooth input devices (such as keyboards and mice) are supported out of the box * Multiple audio devices are handled more gracefully (and one can easily select the default device) * 64-bit PowerPC kernel available
Installation
* A new OEM mode to simplify the process of preinstalling Ubuntu on computers for resale or redistribution * Automatically makes existing hard drive partitions available to the desktop * Simple "dual boot" configuration with automatic resizing of an existing installed OS * The second stage of the installation now has a progress bar
"Under the hood"
* GCC 4.0.1 * glibc 2.3.5 * New early userspace infrastructure based on initramfs-tools * More modular X.org packaging
As always, Ubuntu includes the very best of the 100% FREE / LIBRE application software world, and each new release incorporates countless new features and bugfixes from the global development community.
Feedback and Helping --------------------
If you would like to help shape Ubuntu, take a look at the list of ways you can participate at
http://www.ubuntu.com/community/participate/
Your comments, bug reports, patches and suggestions will help turn this Preview into the best release of Ubuntu ever. Please report bugs through Bugzilla:
If you have a question, or if you think you may have found a bug but aren't sure, first try asking on the #ubuntu IRC channel on FreeNode, on the Ubuntu Users mailing list, or on the Ubuntu forums:
http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-users http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
More Information ----------------
You can find out more about Ubuntu and about this preview release on our website, IRC channel and wiki. If you're new to Ubuntu, please visit:
To sign up for future Ubuntu announcements, please subscribe to Ubuntu's very low volume announcement list at:
http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-announce
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Raymond Burgess wrote:
What is the process of upgrading from one release to another, as it is I don't have anything important on my workstation so just doing a reinstall of the newer release is a simple option, but I would be interested to hear of anyone experiences of doing an upgrade.
$ sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list Find and replace "hoary" with "breezy", or "warty" with "hoary", or whatever. Save and exit. $ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade Sit back and make a coffee, read a book, make a meal...you know, relax until the downloading and configuring is done. Reboot into your new system. :)
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 11:34 +1200, Bnonn wrote:
Raymond Burgess wrote:
What is the process of upgrading from one release to another, as it is I don't have anything important on my workstation so just doing a reinstall of the newer release is a simple option, but I would be interested to hear of anyone experiences of doing an upgrade. <snip> Reboot into your new system.
If only :) I followed the procedure above and things went anything but smoothly. GNOME started dying in weird and spectacular ways as dpkg did it's thing behind the scenes (not entirely unexpected, but interesting none the less). Finally dpkg told me everything was upgraded and to restart GDM to get all the fancy new goodness. So I logged out, ctrl-alt-bspace etc. Gnome session died immediately after logging in and left me with a high session. Reboot. X doesn't work *at all*. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg Press enter many times Kill X and GDM via ssh session because consoles are locked up (Alt-F1, etc don't work). Start GDM, login, seems to be working ok now. I've yet to have the chance to actually sit down and find out what went wrong, but there are obviously still some rough edges to knock off yet. But that is what we have preview releases for isn't it :) Regards -- Matt Brown matt(a)mattb.net.nz Mob +64 275 611 544 www.mattb.net.nz
GNOME started dying in weird and spectacular ways as dpkg did it's thing behind the scenes (not entirely unexpected, but interesting none the less).
Finally dpkg told me everything was upgraded and to restart GDM to get all the fancy new goodness. So I logged out, ctrl-alt-bspace etc. Gnome session died immediately after logging in and left me with a high session.
Reboot.
X doesn't work *at all*.
From my experience with shifting from debain stable to unstable I had similar results.
I would strongly suggest running upgrades from a text console for debian based systems....
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 11:40 +1200, Matt Brown wrote:
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 11:34 +1200, Bnonn wrote:
Raymond Burgess wrote:
What is the process of upgrading from one release to another, as it is I don't have anything important on my workstation so just doing a reinstall of the newer release is a simple option, but I would be interested to hear of anyone experiences of doing an upgrade. <snip> Reboot into your new system.
If only :)
<snip>
X doesn't work *at all*.
dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
Press enter many times
Kill X and GDM via ssh session because consoles are locked up (Alt-F1, etc don't work).
Start GDM, login, seems to be working ok now.
I ran into this a few months ago as I was following the Breezy Tree. It seemed to be related to X changing its font locations, which confused it a little. I took pretty much the same approach.. Kill GDM via ssh, lots of fiddling around then just give up and reconfigure X Alastair
I've yet to have the chance to actually sit down and find out what went wrong, but there are obviously still some rough edges to knock off yet. But that is what we have preview releases for isn't it :)
Regards
On Tue, Sep 13, 2005 at 11:40:46AM +1200, Matt Brown wrote:
On Tue, 2005-09-13 at 11:34 +1200, Bnonn wrote:
Raymond Burgess wrote:
What is the process of upgrading from one release to another, as it is I
<snip>
Reboot into your new system.
If only :)
I followed the procedure above and things went anything but smoothly.
Just to make it clear, Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy) is not yet stable. Upgrading from one stable release to another should go very smoothly. Until Breezy is stable, I suggest waiting for suckers like these guys to test the upgrade and find/report/fix all the bugs :) The 5.10 version number means "2005, October", by the way. John
GNOME started dying in weird and spectacular ways as dpkg did it's thing behind the scenes (not entirely unexpected, but interesting none the less).
The debian release notes do explicitly say NOT to do a dist upgrade while running X. You got what you deserved I guess. Regards -- Oliver Jones > Roving Code Warrior > www.deeperdesign.com
Oliver Jones wrote:
GNOME started dying in weird and spectacular ways as dpkg did it's thing behind the scenes (not entirely unexpected, but interesting none the less).
The debian release notes do explicitly say NOT to do a dist upgrade while running X. You got what you deserved I guess.
Regards
In that case, regular users, of the sort Canonical are targetting, should not put in a CD and perform an upgrade. I raised a bug to that effect (notify the user when Synaptic dist-upgrades that it could wreck things) and they will look at it for Breezy+1, but can't fix it now due to being in a string freeze. Craig
Bnonn wrote:
$ sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
Find and replace "hoary" with "breezy", or "warty" with "hoary", or whatever. Save and exit.
$ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Sit back and make a coffee, read a book, make a meal...you know, relax until the downloading and configuring is done.
Reboot into your new system.
... Spend ages fixing X, and then give up and just dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg :) G.
$ sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
Find and replace "hoary" with "breezy", or "warty" with "hoary", or whatever. Save and exit.
$ sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
Sit back and make a coffee, read a book, make a meal...you know, relax until the downloading and configuring is done.
-or- Put the CD in. Wait for it to ask you "Would you like to upgrade?" Click 'yes'. I don't think that will correctly update your sources.list, but someone should file it as a bug if it doesn't. Ray, as for your previous question: you can install to LVM in Breezy, so it might have fixed your RAID bug. Craig
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