
Hi everyone Just to get the meeting sorted: "An introduction to Linux - features, history, examples of popular flavors (Debian, Ubuntu, Red Hat etc). Advantages and disadvantages to Windows." http://www.meetup.com/WaikatoLinuxUsersGroup/events/232676239/ William will cover the history, but we need people demoing the various flavors and user interfaces (just a few minutes each). Flavors: Debian - ? Ubuntu - ? Red Hat - ? SuSE - ? User interfaces: MATE - ? KDE - ? Unity - ? Gnome3 - ? XFCE - ? LXDE - ? I'm happy to cover MATE. Ian S., Unity? Lawrence or Chris, KDE? Who wants to cover another one? Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann Dept. of Computer Science University of Waikato, NZ +64 (7) 858-5174 http://www.cms.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ http://www.data-mining.co.nz/

Lawrence or Chris, KDE?
Just bear in mind I use only a small part of KDE. I’ll be happy to show command-line stuff. :)
Just a quick tour of the interface (only a few minutes), show the management tools, how to use multi-monitors, USB sticks etc. I've put you down for KDE. :-) Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann Dept. of Computer Science University of Waikato, NZ +64 (7) 858-5174 http://www.cms.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ http://www.data-mining.co.nz/

On Sat, Aug 13, 2016 at 2:34 PM, Peter Reutemann <fracpete(a)waikato.ac.nz> wrote:
Hi everyone
Just to get the meeting sorted:
"An introduction to Linux - features, history, examples of popular flavors (Debian, Ubuntu, Red Hat etc). Advantages and disadvantages to Windows."
http://www.meetup.com/WaikatoLinuxUsersGroup/events/232676239/
William will cover the history, but we need people demoing the various flavors and user interfaces (just a few minutes each).
Slides have been created and are up at http://artctrl.me/linuxhistory.svg. Any feedback or comments? Cheers, William.

Slides have been created and are up at http://artctrl.me/linuxhistory.svg. Any feedback or comments?
Looks good! Maybe include a timeline for distros as well? http://futurist.se/gldt/ Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann Dept. of Computer Science University of Waikato, NZ +64 (7) 858-5174 http://www.cms.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ http://www.data-mining.co.nz/

On Sun, 14 Aug 2016 10:48:03 +1200, Peter Reutemann wrote:
Maybe include a timeline for distros as well?
Rather than detailing every distro, maybe mention some important common points: * Package management (integral part of practically all distros) -- install just the features you need, change your mind at any time, keep everything up-to-date with a single command. * Portability--the second architecture that Linux was ported to (DEC Alpha) was 64-bit, in 1994/1995. So Linux went 64-bit at the same time as it went portable. It now runs on about two dozen different major processor architectures (32-bit and 64-bit), so it has been adding around one new architecture per year. That probably makes it the most portable--and ported--OS in the world. * Mention the (in)famous flamewar with Andrew Tanenbaum over microkernels? I would say history shows Torvalds was right. * Modularity: the GUI is just another layer, usually easily replaceable. Extra services (e.g. file server, web server, print server, DBMS) can easily be added or removed at any time without having to do a full reinstallation. There are log files telling you what various pieces of software are doing. So when something goes wrong, you can usually figure out what it is and fix it, as opposed to “turning it off and on again” (and hoping it doesn’t recur) or, worst of all, “reinstall”. * Hundreds of distros mean choice, but not fragmentation. They all run pretty much the same common software, just packaged and presented differently. In particular, you can easily move your user files between one distro and another. Or have a choice of multibooting different distros on the same machine, with the user files shared in common among them.

Maybe include a timeline for distros as well?
Rather than detailing every distro, maybe mention some important common points:
* Package management (integral part of practically all distros) -- install just the features you need, change your mind at any time, keep everything up-to-date with a single command. * Portability--the second architecture that Linux was ported to (DEC Alpha) was 64-bit, in 1994/1995. So Linux went 64-bit at the same time as it went portable. It now runs on about two dozen different major processor architectures (32-bit and 64-bit), so it has been adding around one new architecture per year. That probably makes it the most portable--and ported--OS in the world. * Mention the (in)famous flamewar with Andrew Tanenbaum over microkernels? I would say history shows Torvalds was right. * Modularity: the GUI is just another layer, usually easily replaceable. Extra services (e.g. file server, web server, print server, DBMS) can easily be added or removed at any time without having to do a full reinstallation. There are log files telling you what various pieces of software are doing. So when something goes wrong, you can usually figure out what it is and fix it, as opposed to “turning it off and on again” (and hoping it doesn’t recur) or, worst of all, “reinstall”. * Hundreds of distros mean choice, but not fragmentation. They all run pretty much the same common software, just packaged and presented differently. In particular, you can easily move your user files between one distro and another. Or have a choice of multibooting different distros on the same machine, with the user files shared in common among them.
These are all good points! And I didn't mean detailing all the distros, just showing a graph of all the choices that you have as a user, compared to Windows. Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann Dept. of Computer Science University of Waikato, NZ +64 (7) 858-5174 http://www.cms.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ http://www.data-mining.co.nz/
participants (3)
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Lawrence D'Oliveiro
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Peter Reutemann
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William Mckee