Greetings all, I'm just writing to find out how people have gone with their Oneric Oncelot upgrade. I upgraded my laptop to the latest Ubuntu [1] or more correctly Kubuntu [2]. The three issues that I have encountered so far are: 1. the power management means the laptop no longer turns off via the normal interface. I have to use the power reset button to turn the laptop off 2. the second issue which has now resolved involved a number of attempts at migrating my mail across to the new akonandi set up. 3. the third issue I've encountered is that the laptop takes a very long time to get to a usable desktop after logging in via kdm Overall, kubuntu is getting more polished now at release 4.7.1. it will be interesting to see how the new database driven personal information manager (PIM) works. As a means of generating some discussion, I thought I would invite others to outline some of the issues they have had in upgrading. So, how has gone for you? We will be announcing an AGM shortly. This is to vote on the committee members for next year. John Billings will be stepping down as club treasurer since he is moving to Wellington. Prior to the AGM Ronnie will be taking over the role of treasurer. If you are interested in taking on a role within the committee please contact me in the coming weeks. If you feel someone would be good for the role, perhaps nudged them and see if they might be interested in standing. Finally, as club president I am inviting anyone interested in presenting a pet topic to contact me for our next wlug Monday meeting. The meeting is scheduled for October 31. Please contact me off list if you are interested. As an aside, I am writing this e-mail using DragonDictate. It is working pretty well. I broke a bone in my hand last weekend and I cannot type at present. http://www.kubuntu.org/ http://www.ubuntu.com/
Hi Chris. I did see some hard tackles by the Aussies last weekend and I can feel the pain from that broken bone of yours. Please get well soon as the RWC final is just a few days away. Noel <snip>
As an aside, I am writing this e-mail using DragonDictate. It is working pretty well. I broke a bone in my hand last weekend and I cannot type at present.
Ha ha :) Go the All Blacks! On 19 October 2011 20:55, noel villamor <noelrv(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Chris.
I did see some hard tackles by the Aussies last weekend and I can feel the pain from that broken bone of yours. Please get well soon as the RWC final is just a few days away.
Noel
I didn't upgrade, but installed Oneric on a VM to test it. Installer is really simple now and Unity seems better. But as my preference is Gnome shell the good news is that it can now be easily installed with apt-get install gnome-shell and then you can choose between it and Unity in GDM.
On 19 October 2011 18:15, Chris O'Halloran <cmoman(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Greetings all,
I'm just writing to find out how people have gone with their Oneric Oncelot upgrade.
My experience ... Have switched laptop and desktop computers to Ubuntu 11.10, 32-bit. Laptop was fine. Hiccup with desktop ... booted CD live system fine, but install stalled part way. Tried stand-alone install - that worked fine. Couple of surprises. Desktop 11.04 said graphics was not up to scratch for "Unity" and ran Gnome instead. However, 11.10 runs Unity without problems. Scribus is at a watershed ... has a new file format which, of course, cannot be read by older versions, and it cannot save a file in the old format. I've yet to find if the desktop on the desktop system is stable. In 11.04, occasionally the windows would go haywire for 20-30 secs. The problem did not occur on the laptop. Skype is a bit odd. It won't run from the unity launcher - currently running it from the command line. Installation was a bit peculiar too - package manager said it wasn't found, yet gave me an "install" button ... which worked! Michael
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype are the Canonical Partner Repositories now you'll sources list? I found this the best way to install Skype.
Skype is a bit odd. It won't run from the unity launcher - currently running it from the command line. Installation was a bit peculiar too - package manager said it wasn't found, yet gave me an "install" button ... which worked!
On 20 October 2011 10:54, Chris O'Halloran <cmoman(a)gmail.com> wrote:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Skype are the Canonical Partner Repositories now you'll sources list?
No and yes ... I'm not sure of the technical differences between the two on the repository list! Version loaded is 2.2.0.35-Ooneric, so I presume it's the right one. Software Centre now behaves normally for Skype ... I did a remove and install but there's no change. It's a "funny" I can live with for 6 months. Michael
I'm just writing to find out how people have gone with their Oneric Oncelot upgrade.
Upgraded my personal laptop over the weekend without a hitch to Kubuntu 11.10. My work laptop didn't go so well with that upgrade: shut down in the middle of installing the new packages. Had to reinstall from scratch, as neither mouse nor keyboard were working after rebooting. Kinda mixed results... But I quite like it so far, nonetheless. Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174
Hi Peter, If I can't resolve shutdown issue, I might reinstall too. Cheers On 19 October 2011 23:03, Peter Reutemann <fracpete(a)waikato.ac.nz> wrote:
I'm just writing to find out how people have gone with their Oneric Oncelot upgrade.
Upgraded my personal laptop over the weekend without a hitch to Kubuntu 11.10. My work laptop didn't go so well with that upgrade: shut down in the middle of installing the new packages. Had to reinstall from scratch, as neither mouse nor keyboard were working after rebooting. Kinda mixed results...
But I quite like it so far, nonetheless.
Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174 _______________________________________________ wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug
I'm just writing to find out how people have gone with their Oneric Oncelot upgrade.
Upgraded my personal laptop over the weekend without a hitch to Kubuntu 11.10.
Hmm... I'll have to take that back... Last night, I was experiencing the following error: "Unable to connect to the system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused" Can't use that laptop anymore right now, as it no longer boots up correctly and has not network connection. I found a bug report that seems to be common for people migrating from 11.04 to 11.10: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/811441 Apparently, the changeover from /var/run and /var/lock to /run and /run/lock screwed up things. For some people, the fix described in comment #9 seemed to work: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/811441/comments/9 Will try that tonight and report on that. Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174
this blog seems to descibe some the issues i'm having. will try tonight too. http://uksysadmin.wordpress.com/2011/10/14/upgrade-to-ubuntu-11-10-problem-w...
Hmm... I'll have to take that back... Last night, I was experiencing the following error: "Unable to connect to the system bus: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: Connection refused"
Can't use that laptop anymore right now, as it no longer boots up correctly and has not network connection.
I found a bug report that seems to be common for people migrating from 11.04 to 11.10: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/811441
Apparently, the changeover from /var/run and /var/lock to /run and /run/lock screwed up things. For some people, the fix described in comment #9 seemed to work: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/811441/comments/9
I found a bug report that seems to be common for people migrating from 11.04 to 11.10: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/811441
Apparently, the changeover from /var/run and /var/lock to /run and /run/lock screwed up things. For some people, the fix described in comment #9 seemed to work: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/811441/comments/9
Will try that tonight and report on that.
Yep, worked for me. My Kubuntu is working again. This was basically the same fix that Chris came across: http://uksysadmin.wordpress.com/2011/10/14/upgrade-to-ubuntu-11-10-problem-w... Though I think, that step 7 should read like this instead: ln -s /run/lock /var/lock Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174
I performed an upgrade this morning, and have so far had several issues that are driving me nuts. First off, after I logged in for the first I found that I had no panels -- gnome-panel (and its dependencies) hadn't been installed. Upon installing them, I found I had a weird mix of GNOME 2 and 3 in its looks. My launchers in the panel were gone, as were the sensor/CPU scaling applets (lm-sensor hadn't been installed). I had to install the DVD playback support again (though I guess that's not surprising). I can/not/ change the default media player from Banshee to Totem, even though I've changed that setting. Also, Banshee still disappears when I click its close button, so I end up with a song playing from nowhere; I have to kill it from the System Monitor. And now I've found that when a new disk is inserted (e.g. CD, DVD, USB) they don't appear on the desktop. I'm serious considering a fresh install, rather than an upgrade; it might work better. Then again, it might pick up the old settings from the hidden folders in my /home directory. Anyone else had these (or similar) problems? Sandy
I should also point out that Unity is installed, but it's impossible to use -- no Dash, no panels, nothing. All I see is the desktop with a Nautilus menu bar. Maybe a fresh install would be best. Sandy
On 19/10/11 18:15, Chris O'Halloran wrote:
Greetings all,
I'm just writing to find out how people have gone with their Oneric Oncelot upgrade.
The upgrade failed on one of my PCs because there wasn't enough free disk space. It wanted about 2 Gb, but the machine only has a 10 Gb drive and has about 1.7 Gb free. There is almost no data on this machine as it is mainly used as a VNC client and for web browsing. I guess I could do some pruning, but it's probably easier to get a bigger drive. Glenn -- Glenn Ramsey<glenn(a)componic.co.nz> 09 9735603 http://www.componic.co.nz
On 20/10/11 11:00, Glenn Ramsey wrote:
On 19/10/11 18:15, Chris O'Halloran wrote:
Greetings all,
I'm just writing to find out how people have gone with their Oneric Oncelot upgrade.
The upgrade failed on one of my PCs because there wasn't enough free disk space. It wanted about 2 Gb, but the machine only has a 10 Gb drive and has about 1.7 Gb free. There is almost no data on this machine as it is mainly used as a VNC client and for web browsing. I guess I could do some pruning, but it's probably easier to get a bigger drive.
I did some pruning, removed a few old kernel images and some games that no-one plays and the upgrade succeeded. So far I haven't noticed any problems, except that the desktop is now different. I assume it's unity, which I also assume is a feature not a bug :-). This probably won't be a problem, the other users of this machine (wife and daughter) have not complained yet, but I was surprised by the change because in the previous release unity had not worked at all so I had set it to use the gnome desktop. I didn't expect the upgrade to override that setting. Glenn -- Glenn Ramsey <glenn(a)componic.co.nz> 09 9735603 http://www.componic.co.nz
The upgrade botched on mine, and after creating a new user account I realised that the issue was with my settings, not the OS installation. Now I'm trying to figure out how to get drive icons back on the desktop, and find a replacement for the sensor-applet that I used to use to monitor disk/CPU temperatures. The fallback GNOME isn't too bad, overall. Takes some getting used to. Sandy On 23/10/11 12:29, Glenn Ramsey wrote:
I did some pruning, removed a few old kernel images and some games that no-one plays and the upgrade succeeded. So far I haven't noticed any problems, except that the desktop is now different. I assume it's unity, which I also assume is a feature not a bug :-). This probably won't be a problem, the other users of this machine (wife and daughter) have not complained yet, but I was surprised by the change because in the previous release unity had not worked at all so I had set it to use the gnome desktop. I didn't expect the upgrade to override that setting.
Glenn
Finally, as club president I am inviting anyone interested in presenting a pet topic to contact me for our next wlug Monday meeting. The meeting is scheduled for October 31.
Please contact me off list if you are interested.
Has there been any offers for a talk for Monday night? I didn't see anything announced on wlug.org.nz. The sidebar only listed "???". Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174
Hello Yes, there has been some offers. Ian has got something to talk about (open office related) And I'm just trying to finish off some code today (matplotlib and python). Hopefully I can nail the bit I'm having trouble figuring out a present. Will make an announcement later today. Cheers, Chris On 29 October 2011 08:42, Peter Reutemann <fracpete(a)waikato.ac.nz> wrote:
Finally, as club president I am inviting anyone interested in presenting a pet topic to contact me for our next wlug Monday meeting. The meeting is scheduled for October 31.
Please contact me off list if you are interested.
Has there been any offers for a talk for Monday night? I didn't see anything announced on wlug.org.nz. The sidebar only listed "???".
Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174 _______________________________________________ wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug
Looks like I'm up for a reinstall of Kubuntu Oneric. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1580857 dpkg --get-selections > installed-software followed by dpkg --set-selections < installed-software seems like a great way to get you installed software back into the fresh install. found this good thread though On 29 October 2011 11:49, Chris O'Halloran <cmoman(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hello
Yes, there has been some offers.
Ian has got something to talk about (open office related)
And I'm just trying to finish off some code today (matplotlib and python).
Hopefully I can nail the bit I'm having trouble figuring out a present.
Will make an announcement later today.
Cheers,
Chris
On 29 October 2011 08:42, Peter Reutemann <fracpete(a)waikato.ac.nz> wrote:
Finally, as club president I am inviting anyone interested in presenting a pet topic to contact me for our next wlug Monday meeting. The meeting is scheduled for October 31.
Please contact me off list if you are interested.
Has there been any offers for a talk for Monday night? I didn't see anything announced on wlug.org.nz. The sidebar only listed "???".
Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174 _______________________________________________ wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug
Hello all, the reinstall of Kubuntu didn't resolve the issues that I was having. So the fact that the machine doesn't turn off from the menu seems to be a bug. Hopefully a fix will come out. The very slow login up is probably related to using akonadi/nepomuck/virtuoso search facilities and an encrypted home drive since if I login as another user, the login is fairly quick. Perhaps I'll unencrypt the home drive and setup a private encrypted folder for anything sensitive. Cheers, Chris On 29 October 2011 14:38, Chris O'Halloran <cmoman(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Looks like I'm up for a reinstall of Kubuntu Oneric.
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1580857
dpkg --get-selections > installed-software
followed by
dpkg --set-selections < installed-software seems like a great way to get you installed software back into the fresh install.
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