Hi, I have parcels going missing. Does anyone know of technology to trace parcels?
It would presumably use GPS. It would involve a very small device put in the parcel that a thief would very possibly not even see when the parcel is scanned at customs. The icing on the cake would be if the route of the parcel was able to be recorded as evidence. I will give more details later like it going on for 3 months and involving parcels posted in NZ as well. But this is trial run email because I haven't posted in a long time and I want to make sure I am doing it right. I am hoping that if anyone replies to this that there is a convenient reply to button or link that I can reply back to. Oh well, after I send this email I want to go to the site and see if it has posted. Thanks for any help.
On Wed, 25 Aug 2021, at 4:01 PM, Michelle wrote:
It would presumably use GPS. It would involve a very small device put in the parcel that a thief would very possibly not even see when the parcel is scanned at customs.
Your biggest issue is going to be how is the device going to communicate with the Internet (or otherwise tell something of its location). Can't use mobile unless you have a good roaming agreement. The second issue would be battery life.
The icing on the cake would be if the route of the parcel was able to be recorded as evidence.
Most reputable couriers / shippers will use someone that provides online updates when it is scanned at each location.
after I send this email I want to go to the site and see if it has posted.
It's posted :)
One option would be a tracker beacon which can be located with a directional antenna. Best if such a device transmits on a VHF or UHF frequency, and also connects to 4G data network and uploads its GPS location. Having last known GPS location would put one in range to precisely locate the item with a small parabolic or Yagi-Uda array antenna. David On Wed, 25 Aug 2021 at 18:29, Simon Green <mail(a)simon.green> wrote:
On Wed, 25 Aug 2021, at 4:01 PM, Michelle wrote:
It would presumably use GPS. It would involve a very small device put in the parcel that a thief would very possibly not even see when the parcel is scanned at customs.
Your biggest issue is going to be how is the device going to communicate with the Internet (or otherwise tell something of its location). Can't use mobile unless you have a good roaming agreement. The second issue would be battery life.
The icing on the cake would be if the route of the parcel was able to be recorded as evidence.
Most reputable couriers / shippers will use someone that provides online updates when it is scanned at each location.
after I send this email I want to go to the site and see if it has posted.
It's posted :) _______________________________________________ wlug mailing list -- wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz | To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Unsubscribe: https://list.waikato.ac.nz/postorius/lists/wlug.list.waikato.ac.nz
Thank you both for your prompt replies. David, those little tracker devices look like they might indeed be the ticket. I've already looked into it a bit but it would need quite the bit of research obviously to see what I might like to buy. Simon, yes battery life would indeed be an issue, but after having looked into it a little it looks like they can last for 2 weeks or more. That would be sufficient for me to send something in NZ to somewhere in NZ and see if a thief bites. That's a very helpful response so far!
There is however one problem with the tracker beacon approach. The thief will simply deny having it, or claim they bought it legitimately from someone else, and you'll have to get the police involved. But the police are so under-resourced it's very difficult to get them to pay any attention to smaller crimes. So another more primal option would be to send a parcel which, upon opening, spatters a generous quantity of vile unpleasant substances in all directions around the room. But I mention that for educational purposes only, and will not go on record as actually suggesting people do it :P David On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 at 01:52, <michelle400(a)orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Thank you both for your prompt replies.
David, those little tracker devices look like they might indeed be the ticket. I've already looked into it a bit but it would need quite the bit of research obviously to see what I might like to buy.
Simon, yes battery life would indeed be an issue, but after having looked into it a little it looks like they can last for 2 weeks or more. That would be sufficient for me to send something in NZ to somewhere in NZ and see if a thief bites.
That's a very helpful response so far! _______________________________________________ wlug mailing list -- wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz | To unsubscribe send an email to wlug-leave(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Unsubscribe: https://list.waikato.ac.nz/postorius/lists/wlug.list.waikato.ac.nz
What's wrong with the splatter idea? It's just doing some community service, helping to educate those people towards better behaviour :) On 2021-08-26 07:19, David McNab wrote:
There is however one problem with the tracker beacon approach. The thief will simply deny having it, or claim they bought it legitimately from someone else, and you'll have to get the police involved. But the police are so under-resourced it's very difficult to get them to pay any attention to smaller crimes.
So another more primal option would be to send a parcel which, upon opening, spatters a generous quantity of vile unpleasant substances in all directions around the room.
But I mention that for educational purposes only, and will not go on record as actually suggesting people do it :P
David
On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 at 01:52, <michelle400(a)orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Thank you both for your prompt replies.
David, those little tracker devices look like they might indeed be the ticket. I've already looked into it a bit but it would need quite the bit of research obviously to see what I might like to buy.
Simon, yes battery life would indeed be an issue, but after having looked into it a little it looks like they can last for 2 weeks or more. That would be sufficient for me to send something in NZ to somewhere in NZ and see if a thief bites.
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Not that I would advocate doing that either:) I would like to ask if someone could please put a linux operating system on dvd or cd for me and post it off to me. I found a place last year that did it but I just rang them for about the second or third time and they aren't answering. Maybe it's to do with covid? Anyway I have an old desktop from about 2006. It's a Dell optiplex GX520 with BIOS version A07. I have been running Manjaro on it but as of the last 2 months different sites have stopped working properly. It may well be hit and miss with what may run on it. If you would be willing to send a copy could you post that here on this thread and then people who look can see that someone is onto it. My email was posted above in a title of a post - I didn't want it to be but it was. So could you please send me an email and then I will have your email address and can tell you my postal address. I will also have further details of what Manjaro program I have been using - I forgot to look at the welcome window and see what it is. Yes I can also look at the disk when this session is over. And then you could tell me how much you would charge - does $25 including postage sound fair? I am keeping the idea that David McNab mentioned in mind for tracking what I believe is a thief. However I have decided that at this stage it might just be easier to only use other courier services. So whoever is willing to do this could you please post it via Fastway or Post Haste preferably or else Castle Parcel or Now or else New Zealand Couriers. I did say I would give more details about what I believe is thieving but I think that what I gave is probably enough. If anybody for some reason wants to know then please let me know. Why am I running such an old computer? Well I prefer desktops to laptops. You can pick up new lower end laptops for under $500 but desktops not so much. About half the second hand desktops I have bought have lasted quite well, including this one which has been going for about a year and a half. Thanks for any help. On 2021-08-26 15:49, Michelle wrote:
What's wrong with the splatter idea? It's just doing some community service, helping to educate those people towards better behaviour :)
On 2021-08-26 07:19, David McNab wrote:
There is however one problem with the tracker beacon approach. The thief will simply deny having it, or claim they bought it legitimately from someone else, and you'll have to get the police involved. But the police are so under-resourced it's very difficult to get them to pay any attention to smaller crimes.
So another more primal option would be to send a parcel which, upon opening, spatters a generous quantity of vile unpleasant substances in all directions around the room.
But I mention that for educational purposes only, and will not go on record as actually suggesting people do it :P
David
On Thu, 26 Aug 2021 at 01:52, <michelle400(a)orcon.net.nz> wrote:
Thank you both for your prompt replies.
David, those little tracker devices look like they might indeed be the ticket. I've already looked into it a bit but it would need quite the bit of research obviously to see what I might like to buy.
Simon, yes battery life would indeed be an issue, but after having looked into it a little it looks like they can last for 2 weeks or more. That would be sufficient for me to send something in NZ to somewhere in NZ and see if a thief bites.
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I would like to ask if someone could please put a linux operating system on dvd or cd for me and post it off to me. I found a place last year that did it but I just rang them for about the second or third time and they aren't answering. Maybe it's to do with covid? Anyway I have an old desktop from about 2006. It's a Dell optiplex GX520 with BIOS version A07. I have been running Manjaro on it but as of the last 2 months different sites have stopped working properly. It may well be hit and miss with what may run on it. If you would be willing to send a copy could you post that here on this thread and then people who look can see that someone is onto it. My email was posted above in a title of a post - I didn't want it to be but it was. So could you please send me an email and then I will have your email address and can tell you my postal address. I will also have further details of what Manjaro program I have been using - I forgot to look at the welcome window and see what it is. Yes I can also look at the disk when this session is over. And then you could tell me how much you would charge - does $25 including postage sound fair?
Not sure whether anyone has already replied off-list. In order to determine what exact processor you have on your desktop machine (and therefore help what Linux distro will work with it), can you post the output generated by the following command (executed in a terminal): cat /proc/cpuinfo > ~/cpuinfo.txt The command will create the file "cpuinfo.txt" in your home directory, which you can attach to your post. Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann Dept. of Computer Science University of Waikato, NZ +64 (7) 858-5174 (office) +64 (7) 577-5304 (home office) http://www.cms.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ http://www.data-mining.co.nz/
Hi Peter, I am not quite sure why it didn't work. First I tried to copy and paste then I typed it leaving what I thought were a couple of possible spaces and then I left no spaces but I couldn't get it to work. When I next boot up I will write some more info down and post it here. Tom Butz sent me an email saying that there are many operating systems that can be put on USB stick and run in memory. This Manjaro that I am presently running is Illyria 18.0. Thanks. On 2021-09-13 09:47, Peter Reutemann wrote:
I would like to ask if someone could please put a linux operating system on dvd or cd for me and post it off to me. I found a place last year that did it but I just rang them for about the second or third time and they aren't answering. Maybe it's to do with covid? Anyway I have an old desktop from about 2006. It's a Dell optiplex GX520 with BIOS version A07. I have been running Manjaro on it but as of the last 2 months different sites have stopped working properly. It may well be hit and miss with what may run on it. If you would be willing to send a copy could you post that here on this thread and then people who look can see that someone is onto it. My email was posted above in a title of a post - I didn't want it to be but it was. So could you please send me an email and then I will have your email address and can tell you my postal address. I will also have further details of what Manjaro program I have been using - I forgot to look at the welcome window and see what it is. Yes I can also look at the disk when this session is over. And then you could tell me how much you would charge - does $25 including postage sound fair?
Not sure whether anyone has already replied off-list.
In order to determine what exact processor you have on your desktop machine (and therefore help what Linux distro will work with it), can you post the output generated by the following command (executed in a terminal): cat /proc/cpuinfo > ~/cpuinfo.txt
The command will create the file "cpuinfo.txt" in your home directory, which you can attach to your post.
Cheers, Peter
I am not quite sure why it didn't work. First I tried to copy and paste then I typed it leaving what I thought were a couple of possible spaces and then I left no spaces but I couldn't get it to work. When I next boot up I will write some more info down and post it here.
The command consists of the following parts (which need to be separated by spaces, all on one line). I'll give a quick explanation of each part: - cat - prints the content of a file in the terminal - /proc/cpuinfo - special file maintained by the kernel with CPU information - > - redirects the output into a file - ~/cpuinfo.txt - the file to receive the output (~ is shorthand for your Linux home directory)
Tom Butz sent me an email saying that there are many operating systems that can be put on USB stick and run in memory.
Yes. Since most modern computers come without CD/DVD drives, these "live images" are usually transferred onto USB sticks rather than CDs or DVDs.
This Manjaro that I am presently running is Illyria 18.0.
Do you know whether you are running a 32 or 64bit version? You can run the following command in a terminal: uname -i On my 64bit Linux Mint, this outputs the following: x86_64 A 32bit version, if I remember correctly, should output something like this: i686 One last comment: are you looking at installing the Linux distro on your desktop's hard drive or do you just want to boot Linux from CD/DVD/USB stick? Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann Dept. of Computer Science University of Waikato, NZ +64 (7) 858-5174 (office) +64 (7) 577-5304 (home office) http://www.cms.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ http://www.data-mining.co.nz/
Hi Peter, On booting it says: ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A07 and manjaro .x89_64 kde so I guess it's a 64 bit program. Is that enough information? I tried getting the information from the terminal window again but couldn't. I could go to that place on booting that provides information. If it's not enough information, could you please tell me what I am looking for? I would like to run it off DVD. My computer's I buy I don't have a hard disk in them I just run the operating system off DVD or maybe it's a CD but I think it's a DVD. I do this on purpose so that hackers and people who spread malware have a harder time with me. I also don't run the operating system off a stick so that hopefully such people have another roadblock. Also I would probably like a Manjaro Operating System again if possible. I think Tom told me that to suggest that I could put multiple operating systems on the same stick and if one didn't work then another hopefully would. Maybe a few could be put on a stick and one on disc that you think would work and those two items sent out in the same package. Thanks again Peter. On 2021-09-13 14:37, Peter Reutemann wrote:
I am not quite sure why it didn't work. First I tried to copy and paste then I typed it leaving what I thought were a couple of possible spaces and then I left no spaces but I couldn't get it to work. When I next boot up I will write some more info down and post it here.
The command consists of the following parts (which need to be separated by spaces, all on one line). I'll give a quick explanation of each part:
* cat
* prints the content of a file in the terminal
* /proc/cpuinfo
* special file maintained by the kernel with CPU information
* >
* redirects the output into a file
* ~/cpuinfo.txt
* the file to receive the output (~ is shorthand for your Linux home directory)
Tom Butz sent me an email saying that there are many operating systems
that can be put on USB stick and run in memory.
Yes. Since most modern computers come without CD/DVD drives, these "live images" are usually transferred onto USB sticks rather than CDs or DVDs.
This Manjaro that I am presently running is Illyria 18.0.
Do you know whether you are running a 32 or 64bit version? You can run the following command in a terminal: uname -i
On my 64bit Linux Mint, this outputs the following:x86_64
A 32bit version, if I remember correctly, should output something like this: i686
One last comment: are you looking at installing the Linux distro on your desktop's hard drive or do you just want to boot Linux from CD/DVD/USB stick?
Cheers, Peter-- Peter Reutemann Dept. of Computer Science University of Waikato, NZ +64 (7) 858-5174 (office) +64 (7) 577-5304 (home office) http://www.cms.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ [1] http://www.data-mining.co.nz/ [2]
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On booting it says: ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A07
and
manjaro .x89_64 kde so I guess it's a 64 bit program.
Yes, I'd say so. And it looks like you are running KDE.
Is that enough information? I tried getting the information from the terminal window again but couldn't. I could go to that place on booting that provides information. If it's not enough information, could you please tell me what I am looking for?
I would like to run it off DVD. My computer's I buy I don't have a hard disk in them I just run the operating system off DVD or maybe it's a CD but I think it's a DVD. I do this on purpose so that hackers and people who spread malware have a harder time with me. I also don't run the operating system off a stick so that hopefully such people have another roadblock.
Hmm... Though attackers won't be able to modify the actual system that you are running (since that will get wiped every time you reboot), this is not necessarily a good approach. The problem is that an attacker can still infect your system while you are running it and then monitor your session for internet logins (email, bank, etc). An up-to-date system is - in my opinion - still the better approach.
Also I would probably like a Manjaro Operating System again if possible.
Manjaro is still around: https://manjaro.org/download/ Comes in XFCE, KDE or Gnome as desktop environment.
I think Tom told me that to suggest that I could put multiple operating systems on the same stick and if one didn't work then another hopefully would. Maybe a few could be put on a stick and one on disc that you think would work and those two items sent out in the same package.
I only ever use a USB stick to set up a system. But it looks like you can use "MultiBootUSB" to install multiple live systems on a single USB drive: https://itsfoss.com/multiple-linux-one-usb/ Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann Dept. of Computer Science University of Waikato, NZ +64 (7) 858-5174 (office) +64 (7) 577-5304 (home office) http://www.cms.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ http://www.data-mining.co.nz/
So would someone be willing to put some operating systems on a USB stick for me? Maybe two Manjaro and two Puppy Linuxes, that they think may work with my computer and aren't way out of date like this one I am using? And also put a Manjaro on a DVD and post them off through one of those hopefully safer couriers? I will pop along to that Manjaro site and see what one I most catches my fancy. Thanks. On 2021-09-14 16:31, Peter Reutemann wrote:
On booting it says: ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A07
and
manjaro .x89_64 kde so I guess it's a 64 bit program.
Yes, I'd say so. And it looks like you are running KDE.
Is that enough information? I tried getting the information from the terminal window again but couldn't. I could go to that place on booting that provides information. If it's not enough information, could you please tell me what I am looking for?
I would like to run it off DVD. My computer's I buy I don't have a hard disk in them I just run the operating system off DVD or maybe it's a CD but I think it's a DVD. I do this on purpose so that hackers and people who spread malware have a harder time with me. I also don't run the operating system off a stick so that hopefully such people have another roadblock.
Hmm... Though attackers won't be able to modify the actual system that you are running (since that will get wiped every time you reboot), this is not necessarily a good approach. The problem is that an attacker can still infect your system while you are running it and then monitor your session for internet logins (email, bank, etc). An up-to-date system is - in my opinion - still the better approach.
Also I would probably like a Manjaro Operating System again if possible.
Manjaro is still around: https://manjaro.org/download/
Comes in XFCE, KDE or Gnome as desktop environment.
I think Tom told me that to suggest that I could put multiple operating systems on the same stick and if one didn't work then another hopefully would. Maybe a few could be put on a stick and one on disc that you think would work and those two items sent out in the same package.
I only ever use a USB stick to set up a system.
But it looks like you can use "MultiBootUSB" to install multiple live systems on a single USB drive: https://itsfoss.com/multiple-linux-one-usb/
Cheers, Peter
I managed to contact the computer business that I had been unable to and order a DVD. On 2021-09-15 18:43, Michelle wrote:
So would someone be willing to put some operating systems on a USB stick for me? Maybe two Manjaro and two Puppy Linuxes, that they think may work with my computer and aren't way out of date like this one I am using? And also put a Manjaro on a DVD and post them off through one of those hopefully safer couriers? I will pop along to that Manjaro site and see what one I most catches my fancy.
Thanks.
On 2021-09-14 16:31, Peter Reutemann wrote:
On booting it says: ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A07
and
manjaro .x89_64 kde so I guess it's a 64 bit program.
Yes, I'd say so. And it looks like you are running KDE.
Is that enough information? I tried getting the information from the terminal window again but couldn't. I could go to that place on booting that provides information. If it's not enough information, could you please tell me what I am looking for?
I would like to run it off DVD. My computer's I buy I don't have a hard disk in them I just run the operating system off DVD or maybe it's a CD but I think it's a DVD. I do this on purpose so that hackers and people who spread malware have a harder time with me. I also don't run the operating system off a stick so that hopefully such people have another roadblock.
Hmm... Though attackers won't be able to modify the actual system that you are running (since that will get wiped every time you reboot), this is not necessarily a good approach. The problem is that an attacker can still infect your system while you are running it and then monitor your session for internet logins (email, bank, etc). An up-to-date system is - in my opinion - still the better approach.
Also I would probably like a Manjaro Operating System again if possible.
Manjaro is still around: https://manjaro.org/download/
Comes in XFCE, KDE or Gnome as desktop environment.
I think Tom told me that to suggest that I could put multiple operating systems on the same stick and if one didn't work then another hopefully would. Maybe a few could be put on a stick and one on disc that you think would work and those two items sent out in the same package.
I only ever use a USB stick to set up a system.
But it looks like you can use "MultiBootUSB" to install multiple live systems on a single USB drive: https://itsfoss.com/multiple-linux-one-usb/
Cheers, Peter
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