Hi Guys. If I got another hard drive how would you dual boot with windows 98 on one and linux on the other? _________________________________________________________________ Need more speed? Get Xtra Jetstream @ http://www.xtra.co.nz/products/0,,5803,00.html !
Hi Guys.
If I got another hard drive how would you dual boot with windows 98 on one and linux on the other?
The two most popular linux bootloaders, lilo and grub, allow you to select which OS you are booting. You can use this to give you a menu at boot time to pick whether or not to boot into linux, or into windows. I'm not 100% sure on this, but I suspect recent linux distros might even autoconfigure a windows option into the bootloader for you. Daniel
If I got another hard drive how would you dual boot with windows 98 on one and linux on the other?
I'm not 100% sure on this, but I suspect recent linux distros might even autoconfigure a windows option into the bootloader for you.
RedHat and Mandrake certainly do, and have done for a long time. If you're installing RedHat simply plug your new, unformatted drive in as slave or secondary-master, make sure Windows is still happy to boot (but don't let windows format the new drive, if it asks!) then go ahead and do a Linux install. RedHat will confidently install to a blank or previously-linux-formatted drive, but it's very cautious about overwriting other operating systems unless you specifically tell it to. And it'll automatically set up GRUB to dual-boot with whatever OS was already installed. (If you're still not sure, just bring the machine along to a meeting; most of us have done this before :) --- This email has been sent on 100% RECYCLED electrons!
At 06:36 2/10/2003 +1200, you wrote:
If I got another hard drive how would you dual boot with windows 98 on one and linux on the other?
I'm not 100% sure on this, but I suspect recent linux distros might even autoconfigure a windows option into the bootloader for you.
RedHat and Mandrake certainly do, and have done for a long time. If you're installing RedHat simply plug your new, unformatted drive in as slave or secondary-master, make sure Windows is still happy to boot (but don't let windows format the new drive, if it asks!) then go ahead and do a Linux install.
RedHat will confidently install to a blank or previously-linux-formatted drive, but it's very cautious about overwriting other operating systems unless you specifically tell it to. And it'll automatically set up GRUB to dual-boot with whatever OS was already installed.
All but NT/2000/XP/2003, for those a bit more tweaking is required. Have a good PDF file that makes it easy, with pictures even!, to get around the NT boot problems. How can I get it on the wiki?
(If you're still not sure, just bring the machine along to a meeting; most of us have done this before :)
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DrWho? wrote:
RedHat will confidently install to a blank or previously-linux-formatted drive, but it's very cautious about overwriting other operating systems unless you specifically tell it to. And it'll automatically set up GRUB to dual-boot with whatever OS was already installed.
All but NT/2000/XP/2003, for those a bit more tweaking is required.
Have a good PDF file that makes it easy, with pictures even!, to get around the NT boot problems.
I've put Mandrake 9.1 on 2 dual boot machines (1 with 2000, 1 with XP) and it didn't require any tweaking. The only requirement is that the order of installation is important. You have to partition the disk first then put windows on one partition, then Mandrake on the empty part of the disk. Mandrake finds the windows partion(s) and puts an entry in lilo for it. g -- Glenn Ramsey <glenn(a)componic.co.nz> 07 8627077 http://www.componic.co.nz
Yes and No. Mandrake does a good job with XP/2000 , but not all other distros do so well. Grub also work better than Lilo. If each stand alone this is fine, but as Linux cannot yet write to NTFS partitions and Windows WONT write to linux partitions. You need to be creative and make an additional fat32 partition which both can mount ( I auto-mount as /home/user/shared) and keep shared files in there. (Of course windows just calls it D:\ At least that's how I get it done for now. So far it has worked well...... Dose this constitute a tweak ???
I've put Mandrake 9.1 on 2 dual boot machines (1 with 2000, 1 with XP) and it didn't require any tweaking.
The only requirement is that the order of installation is important. You have to partition the disk first then put windows on one partition, then Mandrake on the empty part of the disk. Mandrake finds the windows partion(s) and puts an entry in lilo for it.
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All but NT/2000/XP/2003, for those a bit more tweaking is required.
I've installed RH8 behind XP, doing a vanilla "i have no idea what I'm doing" desktop install onto a second drive. It worked fine. Redhat sees that you have a bootable NTFS partition and does the chainloader thing automagically. OTOH it helps if you have a bog-standard single NTFS partition and a completely unpartioned second drive. Stuff like OnTrack really buggers things up. If you're paranoid; don't install a bootloader at all, make a boot floppy instead. You can't go wrong :) --- This email has been sent on 100% RECYCLED electrons!
If you have two physical drives it is not generaly a problem and you avoid windows disk management. In my case I had linux on a partion on the same physical drive as win2k and that did cause some problems so I hunted for and found a good solution that used the win2k boot loader and keeps every body happy.. At 12:23 2/10/2003 +1200, you wrote:
All but NT/2000/XP/2003, for those a bit more tweaking is required.
I've installed RH8 behind XP, doing a vanilla "i have no idea what I'm doing" desktop install onto a second drive. It worked fine.
Redhat sees that you have a bootable NTFS partition and does the chainloader thing automagically. OTOH it helps if you have a bog-standard single NTFS partition and a completely unpartioned second drive. Stuff like OnTrack really buggers things up.
If you're paranoid; don't install a bootloader at all, make a boot floppy instead. You can't go wrong :)
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On Wed, Oct 01, 2003 at 08:34:45AM +0000, Gene Smith wrote:
Hi Guys.
If I got another hard drive how would you dual boot with windows 98 on one and linux on the other?
My advice would be to make sure the windows drive is the "primary master" if that makes sense to you :p lilo and grub will install a boot partition on the primary master drive, which the bios will try to boot off first. The reason for this is that windows (98 and earlier at least) assumes that it is the primary master IDE device. There are tricks you can do in lilo and grub to fool windows (the bios=0x81 option), but I wouldn't bother. The setup would look the same as for dual-booting off a single drive, except your linux root partition would be hdc or hdd something instead of hda something. Does all this make sense? :p John McPherson
Gene Smith wrote:
Hi Guys.
If I got another hard drive how would you dual boot with windows 98 on one and linux on the other?
I use a similar configuration with linux on the secondary drive Text below is my from grub configuration (from my experience grub is much easier to use than lilo for this) and i have had no problem with this, windows is in the first partition on the first hdd, i have a small boot partition at the start of the second drive and my root partition is /dev/hdc4. Grub is installed in the mbr of the first hdd (/dev/hda)and its higher stages and config files are stored on the boot partition (/dev/hdc1) Beware that grub numbers drives sequentially but skips cdrom drives (found this out when i replaced a cdrom on /dev/hdb with a hdd) /boot/grub/menu.lst # Boot automatically after a minute. timeout 60 # By default, boot the second entry. default 1 # Fallback to the first entry. fallback 0 title Windows 2000 rootnoverify (hd0,0) chainloader +1 title linux 2.4.22-pre10-athalon root (hd2,0) kernel /bzImage-2.4.22-pre10-athalon root=/dev/hdc4 Hope this helps rather than confuses Jason
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