OSI / FOSS Submissions to Hamilton City Council 10 year plan. - Ian to deliver presentation at Hearing
The Hamilton City Council received 724 submissions to their 2012-2022 Draft 10 Year Plan. Just under 200 of those that submitted plans, have indicated they wish to attend the hearing and deliver a presentation. These hearing are being held this week, 14th May to 18th May. The submissions have been split into 12 categories. The last category, "Other Issues Raised" has 78 submissions and 25 of those submitters wish to present at the hearing. Of these 78 submissions I found two regarding Hamilton City Council's IT strategy. Both promote the implementation of the Open Source Initiative /FOSS. Peter Reutemann's submission (#365) can be read here... http://www.hamilton.co.nz/our-council/council-publications/10yearplan/10year... My submission (#294) can be read here... http://www.hamilton.co.nz/our-council/council-publications/10yearplan/10year... Peter opted not to present, while I have opted to make a presentation. I have been invited to present at 12 noon on Thu 17 May for 5 minutes at the Municipal Building in Garden place. It is requested that the 5 minutes includes time for questions. I welcome anyone from wlug that would like to provide ideas or suggestions for my presentation to send an e-mail to me: ianstewart56 at hotmail dot com. Alternatively, I will go to The Hilly bar, (off clyde St.- next to the Warehouse) at 7pm this Tuesday night (15th). Drop by and we can discuss presentation ideas over a beer. In my quick glance through the 78 "Other Issues Raised" submissions, apart from Peter and my submissions, none of the others appear to be promoting something that is designed to reduce the costs of the Councils operations to the rate-payers. For my presentation I believe that the focal point needs to be that I'm proposing the implementation of something that "reduces costs". cheers, Ian. FYI: My draft presentation strategy is currently along these lines: o. 5 minutes is 300 seconds. I make 10 x 24 second points = 240 seconds = 4 minutes. o. Allow 1 minute for questions. o. Mention "cost saving" in each of the 10 points. o. Don't use a slide presentation. Have printed up hand-out's for the Councillors. o. Hand-out's have a page to write questions on. o. Don't get technical. E.g. Don't even say the word "Linux". o. Mention where Open Source saves costs: Initial "purchase" lower, Lower support centre calls, Reduce h/w replacement. o. Promote Council to review Peter's submission #365 containing many examples and references. o. The global IT strategy for the future is Open Source. The council is only deciding "When" they start. o. Only answer non-technical questions. Don't get into a technical jargon wrestling match. o. Collect up written questions at the end, and agree to submit written responses to Council by the next day. o. Be jovial and happy. o. Give all the councillors at the hearing a copy of Ubuntu 12.04 CD, and tell them its legally theirs. o. ? o. ? o... more ideas welcomed from wlug!
Mention examples of councils and other large organisations using open source. On Mon, May 14, 2012 at 5:36 PM, Ian Stewart <ianstewart56(a)hotmail.com>wrote:
The Hamilton City Council received 724 submissions to their 2012-2022 Draft 10 Year Plan. Just under 200 of those that submitted plans, have indicated they wish to attend the hearing and deliver a presentation. These hearing are being held this week, 14th May to 18th May.
The submissions have been split into 12 categories. The last category, "Other Issues Raised" has 78 submissions and 25 of those submitters wish to present at the hearing.
Of these 78 submissions I found two regarding Hamilton City Council's IT strategy. Both promote the implementation of the Open Source Initiative /FOSS.
Peter Reutemann's submission (#365) can be read here...
http://www.hamilton.co.nz/our-council/council-publications/10yearplan/10year... 2012-000365.pdf
My submission (#294) can be read here...
http://www.hamilton.co.nz/our-council/council-publications/10yearplan/10year... 2012-000294.pdf
Peter opted not to present, while I have opted to make a presentation. I have been invited to present at 12 noon on Thu 17 May for 5 minutes at the Municipal Building in Garden place. It is requested that the 5 minutes includes time for questions.
I welcome anyone from wlug that would like to provide ideas or suggestions for my presentation to send an e-mail to me: ianstewart56 at hotmail dot com. Alternatively, I will go to The Hilly bar, (off clyde St.- next to the Warehouse) at 7pm this Tuesday night (15th). Drop by and we can discuss presentation ideas over a beer.
In my quick glance through the 78 "Other Issues Raised" submissions, apart from Peter and my submissions, none of the others appear to be promoting something that is designed to reduce the costs of the Councils operations to the rate-payers. For my presentation I believe that the focal point needs to be that I'm proposing the implementation of something that "reduces costs".
cheers, Ian.
FYI: My draft presentation strategy is currently along these lines:
o. 5 minutes is 300 seconds. I make 10 x 24 second points = 240 seconds = 4 minutes. o. Allow 1 minute for questions. o. Mention "cost saving" in each of the 10 points. o. Don't use a slide presentation. Have printed up hand-out's for the Councillors. o. Hand-out's have a page to write questions on. o. Don't get technical. E.g. Don't even say the word "Linux". o. Mention where Open Source saves costs: Initial "purchase" lower, Lower support centre calls, Reduce h/w replacement. o. Promote Council to review Peter's submission #365 containing many examples and references. o. The global IT strategy for the future is Open Source. The council is only deciding "When" they start. o. Only answer non-technical questions. Don't get into a technical jargon wrestling match. o. Collect up written questions at the end, and agree to submit written responses to Council by the next day. o. Be jovial and happy. o. Give all the councillors at the hearing a copy of Ubuntu 12.04 CD, and tell them its legally theirs. o. ? o. ? o... more ideas welcomed from wlug!
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o. Give all the councillors at the hearing a copy of Ubuntu 12.04 CD, and tell them its legally theirs.
You might want to hand out the "business remix" of Ubuntu 12.04, which would be a better fit, I reckon: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Canonical-refreshes-Ubuntu-Business-D... Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174
If any of the councillors ran this disk from an unknown source on any council asset id suggest its a nuge security risk. Id be extremely disappointed if someone ran something like this inside a company i looked after. A cdr with unknown software on it. Yay. Sent from my iPad On 15/05/2012, at 8:45 AM, Peter Reutemann <fracpete(a)waikato.ac.nz> wrote:
o. Give all the councillors at the hearing a copy of Ubuntu 12.04 CD, and tell them its legally theirs.
You might want to hand out the "business remix" of Ubuntu 12.04, which would be a better fit, I reckon: http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Canonical-refreshes-Ubuntu-Business-D...
Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174 _______________________________________________ wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug
Of course they won't as there will be company policies on this regard. But never mind the implied idea that the person handing out the discs is not Bill Gates or the Mayor or that the discs are of Verbatim brand from Warehouse, for me the giving is symbolic more than anything else. On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Kyle Carter <kyle(a)feet.net.nz> wrote:
If any of the councillors ran this disk from an unknown source on any council asset id suggest its a nuge security risk. Id be extremely disappointed if someone ran something like this inside a company i looked after. A cdr with unknown software on it. Yay.
Sent from my iPad
On 15/05/2012, at 8:45 AM, Peter Reutemann <fracpete(a)waikato.ac.nz> wrote:
o. Give all the councillors at the hearing a copy of Ubuntu 12.04 CD, and tell them its legally theirs.
You might want to hand out the "business remix" of Ubuntu 12.04, which would be a better fit, I reckon:
http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Canonical-refreshes-Ubuntu-Business-D...
Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174 _______________________________________________ wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug
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In the past WLUG has often been given disks (the proper factory stamped ones) in bulk from Canonical. Usually this was for SFD but I think if we asked for a few dozen to promote FOSS to the local council they'd probably give them to us. On 15 May 2012 23:18, Noel Villamor <noelrv(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Of course they won't as there will be company policies on this regard.
But never mind the implied idea that the person handing out the discs is not Bill Gates or the Mayor or that the discs are of Verbatim brand from Warehouse, for me the giving is symbolic more than anything else.
On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Kyle Carter <kyle(a)feet.net.nz> wrote:
If any of the councillors ran this disk from an unknown source on any council asset id suggest its a nuge security risk. Id be extremely disappointed if someone ran something like this inside a company i looked after. A cdr with unknown software on it. Yay.
Sent from my iPad
On 15/05/2012, at 8:45 AM, Peter Reutemann <fracpete(a)waikato.ac.nz> wrote:
o. Give all the councillors at the hearing a copy of Ubuntu 12.04 CD, and tell them its legally theirs.
You might want to hand out the "business remix" of Ubuntu 12.04, which would be a better fit, I reckon:
http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Canonical-refreshes-Ubuntu-Business-D...
Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174 _______________________________________________ wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug
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In the past WLUG has often been given disks (the proper factory stamped ones) in bulk from Canonical. Usually this was for SFD but I think if we asked for a few dozen to promote FOSS to the local council they'd probably give them to us.
Canonical no longer provides free CDs, AFAIK: http://www.ubuntu.com/shipit Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174
Bugger. On 16 May 2012 09:08, Peter Reutemann <fracpete(a)waikato.ac.nz> wrote:
In the past WLUG has often been given disks (the proper factory stamped ones) in bulk from Canonical. Usually this was for SFD but I think if we asked for a few dozen to promote FOSS to the local council they'd probably give them to us.
Canonical no longer provides free CDs, AFAIK: http://www.ubuntu.com/shipit
Cheers, Peter -- Peter Reutemann, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Waikato, NZ http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~fracpete/ Ph. +64 (7) 858-5174 _______________________________________________ wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug
participants (6)
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Bruce Kingsbury -
Ian Stewart -
Kyle Carter -
Noel Villamor -
Peter Reutemann -
Rob Brown-Bayliss