i just realised i had a typo in the command (sudo apt-get install sl-modem-daemon sl-modem-source) but still got the same result Glenn. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Glenn Stuart Morrissey 55 Poplar Grove Whalers Gate New Plymouth, 4310. New Zealand. 06 751 1293 021 022 402 01 gmorrissey(a)kol.co.nz