Mail client difficulty
This one is driving me a bit batty at the moment. I've been using KMail up till now but the addressbook has a flaky UI which is frustrating and nonintuitive to say the least and there are one or two other issues that have caused me problems with lost mails and such. Good reports filtered down to me about Thunderbird and Evolution so I installed them and set everything up and neither of them can hookup up to my popmail accounts. All the settings are exactly the same as the Kmail settings and Kmail hooks in and downloads everything no problems Obviously running on OpenSuSE 10.3. What have I missed? -- Graham Lauder, ******************************************** The Best things come in 3 http://why.openoffice.org ******************************************** OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html INGOTs Assessor Trainer (International Grades in Office Technologies) www.theingots.org
2008/6/13 Graham Lauder <yorick_(a)openoffice.org>:
Good reports filtered down to me about Thunderbird and Evolution so I installed them and set everything up and neither of them can hookup up to my popmail accounts. All the settings are exactly the same as the Kmail settings and Kmail hooks in and downloads everything no problems Obviously running on OpenSuSE 10.3. What have I missed?
With the way a lot of people work these days, I'd recommend switching to a web-based email system. I have found Gmail to be fairly good. Not perfect, but it does everything I need. Gets email from other pop3 systems. You ought to know the advantages ... (a) Access from any computer, any OS (b) Backup is taken care of (I hope!) (c) Can use filters to presort your email And the disadvantage is having to be online to read email. Michael
Use IMAP, that way you get the best of both worlds. An email client interface and preparation of email offline coupled with online, backed up email and webmail access at a pinch. 2008/6/13 Michael McDonald <mikencolleen(a)gmail.com>:
2008/6/13 Graham Lauder <yorick_(a)openoffice.org>:
Good reports filtered down to me about Thunderbird and Evolution so I installed them and set everything up and neither of them can hookup up to my popmail accounts. All the settings are exactly the same as the Kmail settings and Kmail hooks in and downloads everything no problems Obviously running on OpenSuSE 10.3. What have I missed?
With the way a lot of people work these days, I'd recommend switching to a web-based email system. I have found Gmail to be fairly good. Not perfect, but it does everything I need. Gets email from other pop3 systems.
You ought to know the advantages ... (a) Access from any computer, any OS (b) Backup is taken care of (I hope!) (c) Can use filters to presort your email And the disadvantage is having to be online to read email.
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If you have to use pop for some reason, you could fetch your mail to gmail: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&ctx=mail&answer=21288 Then download it with whatever client you want to use via IMAP: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/bin/topic.py?topic=12913 The gmail imap can be slow at times, but usually works fine. Chris O'Halloran wrote:
Use IMAP, that way you get the best of both worlds.
An email client interface and preparation of email offline coupled with online, backed up email and webmail access at a pinch.
2008/6/13 Michael McDonald <mikencolleen(a)gmail.com>:
Good reports filtered down to me about Thunderbird and Evolution so I installed them and set everything up and neither of them can hookup up to my popmail accounts. All the settings are exactly the same as the Kmail settings and Kmail hooks in and downloads everything no problems Obviously running on OpenSuSE 10.3. What have I missed? With the way a lot of people work these days, I'd recommend switching to a web-based email system. I have found Gmail to be fairly good. Not perfect, but it does everything I need. Gets email from other
2008/6/13 Graham Lauder <yorick_(a)openoffice.org>: pop3 systems.
You ought to know the advantages ... (a) Access from any computer, any OS (b) Backup is taken care of (I hope!) (c) Can use filters to presort your email And the disadvantage is having to be online to read email.
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On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 2:26 PM, Graham Lauder <yorick_(a)openoffice.org> wrote:
This one is driving me a bit batty at the moment. I've been using KMail up till now but the addressbook has a flaky UI which is frustrating and nonintuitive to say the least and there are one or two other issues that have caused me problems with lost mails and such.
Good reports filtered down to me about Thunderbird and Evolution so I installed them and set everything up and neither of them can hookup up to my popmail accounts. All the settings are exactly the same as the Kmail settings and Kmail hooks in and downloads everything no problems
I use Thunderbird extensively. I'm sure you are aware many of the account config options for Thunderbird are only available once the account is set up - things like altered ports, ssh, etc are all only configurable by right-clicking an existing account and choosing properties. I've also found that sometimes I need to erase any remembered passwords in thunderbird and then re-type them on the next connection. Cheers J -- James Pluck PalmOS Ergo Sum "Dear IRS: I would like to cancel my subscription. Please remove my name from your mailing list..."
On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 03:09:07PM +1200, James Pluck wrote:
I use Thunderbird extensively. I'm sure you are aware many of the account config options for Thunderbird are only available once the account is set up - things like altered ports, ssh, etc are all only configurable by right-clicking an existing account and choosing properties.
Assuming you meant ssl instead of ssh :) This is something that seems to frequently be the problem - Thunderbird (and other popular clients like Outlook Express on windows) don't give you the option to use SSL connections in the Account Setup Wizard - you have to go into advanced options after setting up an account. I've often wondered why email clients don't just ask you for your mail server's name (or even try to guess automatically based on your domain name or MX record) and then automatically try connecting via IMAP/SSL POP/SSL SMTP/SSL etc and work it out itself, instead of expecting end users to know all the technical details... John
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