"OSDL shares desktop survey results": http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS5481370522.html Please specifically refer to http://www.desktoplinux.com/files/article019/osdl-dtl-survey-12.jpg. Craig
On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 22:41, Craig Box wrote:
"OSDL shares desktop survey results": http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS5481370522.html
Please specifically refer to http://www.desktoplinux.com/files/article019/osdl-dtl-survey-12.jpg.
Well, you know what they say about statistics.... I'm sure that you could find a survey out here to make any point. The Distrowatch HPD stats, http://distrowatch.com/ show a somewhat different distribution of actual users (not just those enterprises _considering_ using). Whether you consider that Linux will gain a significant level of adoption via "enterprises" or by home users would be debatable, I guess. regards, ********************************************* Dr Denise J. Bates, School of Geography & Environmental Science University of Auckland Private Bag 92019, Auckland New Zealand E-mail: d.bates(a)auckland.ac.nz Telephone 09-3737599 ext 86592 *********************************************
On Thu, 2005-12-01 at 13:39 +1300, Denise Bates wrote:
On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 22:41, Craig Box wrote:
"OSDL shares desktop survey results": http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS5481370522.html
Please specifically refer to http://www.desktoplinux.com/files/article019/osdl-dtl-survey-12.jpg.
Well, you know what they say about statistics....
I'm sure that you could find a survey out here to make any point. The Distrowatch HPD stats, http://distrowatch.com/ show a somewhat different distribution of actual users (not just those enterprises _considering_ using).
Whether you consider that Linux will gain a significant level of adoption via "enterprises" or by home users would be debatable, I guess.
Now, now... Before *yet* another distro war starts heating let's just get a few things straight... Using Linux is like driving a car, a car usually has 4 wheels, plus a steering wheel, and a spare wheel and any car is driven in a similar manner (within reason), but for one reason or another, we're very passionate about the different brands and different models for one reason or another. That's fair enough, it's life. However, should you approach a driving instructor for driving lessons then it's entirely his/her (or employers) choice of what car you drive during the period of the driving lesson. They usually base their purchasing decision on something that is reasonably priced, reliable, easy to drive, and easy to learn to drive in. This is the same here... What you do at home is entirely your business and to me, Linux is Linux, however, Ubuntu is an easy distro to install and run, therefore, it is going to make the jobs of the people who are assisting new users on days like fix-it meetings and install fests a lot easier. Craig has faced a lot of criticism with regard to the fact that he may be "biased" towards Ubuntu which he is defending. I'm supporting Craig's views, his reasoning is very sound.
On Thu, 2005-12-01 at 13:39 +1300, Denise Bates wrote:
I'm sure that you could find a survey out here to make any point. The Distrowatch HPD stats, http://distrowatch.com/ show a somewhat different distribution of actual users (not just those enterprises _considering_ using).
I agree that the distribution of users differs, but Ubuntu, SUSE and Fedora are consistently in the top 5 across both surveys. Surely you will agree that that says something? The fact that two different surveys collected via *very* different means came to pretty much the same conclusion (particularly regarding the leading distribution, which is miles in front) seems to settle the argument fairly conclusively in my opinion. Of course, none of this lessens the validity of someone wanting to run their smaller distribution of choice. Cheers -- Matt Brown matt(a)mattb.net.nz Mob +64 275 611 544 www.mattb.net.nz
Please specifically refer to http://www.desktoplinux.com/files/article019/osdl-dtl-survey-12.jpg.
Well, you know what they say about statistics....
I was being a bit cheeky in this case - I remember a call going out on the Ubuntu forums to reply to the survey, so it probably has more than a slight slanting of the respondents.
I'm sure that you could find a survey out here to make any point. The Distrowatch HPD stats, http://distrowatch.com/ show a somewhat different distribution of actual users (not just those enterprises _considering_ using).
What, you mean the list that still puts Ubuntu at the top? :) The point I was trying to make was perhaps a dig at the expense of whoever suggested we needed to "take the Ubuntu blinkers" off in the last survey. If someone comes and knows they want to install a different OS, and has a good reason, we aren't the type to say "no, that's wrong, you should run Ubuntu". However, if we're going to support it and the people don't know, it seems like a really good and justifiable choice. Craig
of course if you add open SUSE and Enterprise SUSE together then we should be doing SUSE At the end of the day there are lies damn lies political promises. and statistics (of which 70% are made up on the spot) On a side note, USA today recently reported that 3 out of 4 people make up 75% of the population. The whole point of linux is to make it what we the user want. Choice is good, Ubuntu looks like a good place to start, probably better than when we all pushing redhat. I would like to see more distros demo'ed and the goals of the distro explained. After all Linux really is the kernel, beyond that its the distro. be it focused on Games, or Media or Web design, or one ring to rule them all ... is there ever one type of PC user. OK I'll go back to my MAC now . and see what I can find out about the new mac-tel units, Since we had mac on linux, there is a growing interest in running windows/linux/mac not as dual boot, but as window on the one desktop. not emulation, but direct access to the hardware on the motherboard alongside the base os. Should be fun. in the meantime .. try and play nice kiddies. Later Gavin (gramps) in Ngaruawahia On 1/12/2005, at 2:05 PM, Craig Box wrote:
Please specifically refer to http://www.desktoplinux.com/files/article019/osdl-dtl-survey-12.jpg.
Well, you know what they say about statistics....
I was being a bit cheeky in this case - I remember a call going out on the Ubuntu forums to reply to the survey, so it probably has more than a slight slanting of the respondents.
I'm sure that you could find a survey out here to make any point. The Distrowatch HPD stats, http://distrowatch.com/ show a somewhat different distribution of actual users (not just those enterprises _considering_ using).
What, you mean the list that still puts Ubuntu at the top? :)
The point I was trying to make was perhaps a dig at the expense of whoever suggested we needed to "take the Ubuntu blinkers" off in the last survey. If someone comes and knows they want to install a different OS, and has a good reason, we aren't the type to say "no, that's wrong, you should run Ubuntu". However, if we're going to support it and the people don't know, it seems like a really good and justifiable choice.
Craig
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Bnonn wrote:
Gavin Denby wrote:
At the end of the day there are lies damn lies political promises. and statistics (of which 70% are made up on the spot)
The other 30% of statistics, of course, are made up beforehand.
Of course they are. You can't make up statistics in a time after now! Then hasn't happened yet! Craig
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