Fair point, its my personal call, I should be asked to quantify. I personally have not had a good run with Fedora, and have found better smaller and faster desktops more useful for what we do here. SUX was a really bad choice of words. I apologize. Fedora still seems focused on the server in my experience, and better desktop versions of Linux exist. Mepis is a good example of a debian based desktop distro, and PClinux OS is a cut down, desktop focused version of mandrake which are a couple of good examples of taking a full distro, and focusing it on the desktop. I found fedora to be much slower, and the desktop to not work as well, or to be as well laid out from a user point of view. It also seemed to chew up resources more than other distros I have tried. Redhats CEO's comments that Linux as not suitable for the desktop probably showed why their had been less attention to the desktop by Redhat in the past, and there still seems to be the same lack of attention to detail. There is no big issue, but IMHO, lots of little issues that make it less than it could be. And yes I thought JDS2 was a version that fedora could learn from, and Oliver seemed to like Gnome, so I suggested it. JDS 1 didn't impress me much, but JDS2 is looking a lot better. and it seems to be the only desktop linux based on fedora that I have seen so far in my travels. I appreciate being pulled up for such a stupid thoughtless comment, I should have paid more attention to what was a silly glib remark. What I meant to say was that for a desktop only install, better versions than fedora exist for out of the box desktops. Ironically we had a similar discussion about Lindows with another group last week, and noted that they wanted to be compared with fedora and mandrake, but not the specialist Linux Desktop Distros out there. Lets face it, Windows both server and desktop versions, as does MAC OS X, So why are linux distros not willing to be server of desktop focused..... or even have 2 versions. ( and for my money, the ones in the best position is Novell with SUSE, Ximian and their own networking history... They could really make some cool linux distros.) Craig Box wrote:
If average user means games, then yes. but if average user means e-mail, web browsing , IRC, open office and multimedia , Movies, and MP3's then its Great, just get the right distro. Fedora Sux as a desktop, mandrake works, but is bloat ware
Can you quantify those statements, please? Exactly how much, and why, does Fedora suck as a desktop?
Kde 3.2 is a pleasent surprise, its come a long way ... Sounds like you should try Sun's JDS 2. I think you might like it.
Sun's JDS is built on GNOME. (As is Fedora.)
Craig
_______________________________________________ wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug