* Perry Lorier <perry(a)coders.net> [2004-04-04 12:12]:
(Ever tried killall -9 broken_program on solaris? It's amusing.)
Hee. Does Solaris have pkill? That's what I've been using on Linux for the longest time now -- no killall for me, thanks.
What I see is a platform that is "static", "unchanging". I can rely on it being the same tomorrow as it was yesterday. If I'm administering something this is what I want.
Yeah, exactly. A platform which is bug-/security-fixed forever, without actual software updates further than what is backwards compatible with the status quo.
and everything it depends on must be in testing, and everything required to build it must be in testing.
Yep. Often overlooked in its impact. Things don't just drop down into testing all of their own.
Discovering you have to rewrite large applications because PHP now comes with register_globals off.
Which, in all fairness, is something that needed done. But the fault is really PHP's more so than RedHat's, and that's a rant for another time. In all fairness, again, RedHat have made some brazen moves that I believe needed doing (switching to UTF-8 entirely was the latest one -- unfortunately it broke a lot of stuff); much like I applaued Apple for making the first computer entirely without legacy hardware ("no serial ports and no floppy disk?!?"). It's inconvenient at the time, but it has to be done at some point for the whole of the community/ business/ whateveryouwanttocallit to move forward. Of course, on a server, that's exactly what you *don't* want to happen. Which was my point, that Debian is top choice for a server, but not the desktop and not for developers' machines (which is were those brazen changes should happen first and frequently). -- Regards, Aristotle "If you can't laugh at yourself, you don't take life seriously enough."