Ok almost there now Tried the following; ifdown eth1 iwconfig eth1 mode Ad-Hoc essid "deb1" channel 6 ifconfig eth1 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 broadcast 192.168.1.255 ping 192.168.1.1 route -n Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface 10.0.0.3 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH 1 0 0 sl0 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth1 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 U 1 0 0 sl0 Windows Wifi is Zyair B220 looks like only 802b Maybe part of problem as Netgear is 802b 802g LAN is 192.168.0.1 Wlan is 192.168.1.1 ping 192.168.1.1 still hangs! Almost humming! Ethereal does DHCP then shows UDP + ICMP + ARP and some TCP packets Ethereal correctly identifies all the wifi devices, computers, workgroup, and names of workgroup correctly When I ping Ethereal says it is sending mostly ICMP Packets So 99% there just cannot ping, though Ethereal shows it is trying hard. Also for the first time airsnort sees the windows wifi device OK Bill _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com