Hi Andreas, I realise that you of course are full of yoper propaganda, and rightly so given your position with respect to that distro :-) That aside, I too would like to know the methodoly behind said tests.
The person who did the test is very very good, that is all I can say. If you want his email, contact me offlist.
IE: Things like buffer and cache reads, and possibly even user memory measurements, are well known as theoretical benchmarks, and, while they provide interesting trivia, quite often have no relevance to the real world. Stuff like 'How many megabytes per second can I pull off of a yoper based NFS server', or 'how many webpages per second does this fedora-based version of apache serve', stuff like that, are 'real world' examples and are more useful and will be much more accepted.
Good idea and I am sure that stuff like that would look good in Yoper too, since I have added tweaks to the TCP stack into the startup that no other distro has.
While I'm not saying there's anything wrong with the figures that were provided, I feel they may create more controversy than good (ie: will leave people arguing pointlessly about yoper, etc, etc rather than winning anyone over to your cause).
what can I say .... since when is proof so decremental to winning people over?
Also, while boot time *is* a useful and valid statistic, the question must be asked - booting what? I'm pretty sure I could write a custom mini-distribution with a kernel, bash and nothing else which would boot faster than any of the ones listed :-) Contrived example I know, but it illustrates my point.
Why don't you do it then. Every one has a choice to create their own distro. Every distro has a choice of doing what they are doing and my choice was to make it fast. Another user of mine has writtens scripts that boot in 20 seconds. I haven't added them since I agree with you that it is at some point fairly pointless and I rather keep them standard for users to at least know about them. I also am going to integrate Yast2, which needs some sort of standard core. Fact remains though that performance, which is the purpose of Yoper, since I personally like that :) ..... is an important aspect of Yoper. the init scripts are lifted from RedHat and as such it should show one thing, that the same scripts booting in 2 different OS's can certainly be faster in one than in the other.
Sure the benchmark was done by a member of your community and hence you had no control over it, but reformatting it and posting it in the URL it was on leads people to believe that yoper ltd/incorporated/TM/whatever is the source of these benchmarks and hence you yourself will suffer any criticism of them. Be wary, the religious distro wars are afoot :-)
Personally I like all distro's and that is not just something I say willy nilly. I work (or shall I say advocate) daily on the job while administer with various distros and promote various distros and do not really give a darn about which one others use. I am not a zealot who thinks that there can only be one. The strenght of Linux is in fact that there are many many distros for various purposes and Yoper is just one of them. The purpose of Yoper is to be very fast and to have the nicest features of other distros. Why? Because I am a learner and I learn about different distro's by integrating things they have in my own distro. Why have I chosen to do my own? Because I was sick and tired of rattling hard disks, just because I load an application. I like it that way. Why have I reformatted the findings? After spending so much time doing Yoper and even more time implementing RedHat, SuSE, Debian or whatever other distro I work with I wanted to know black and white that what I have done so far was actually the right direction of work. All in all if this just keeps people off using Yoper, so be it, even though I find it quite odd, especially from a Kiwi perspective a little bit support would be great, after all it is a Kiwi distro. I also find it odd that such a comparison (any comparison is byist) should stop people from using it? Why would that be. Personally I like doing Yoper because it offers me a chance to deepen my skills that I use professionally. If people use it great, if they don't so be it. Anyhow ... I hope this explains a little more. I did not want to stir you up, just though you might be interested. Cheers Andreas