Quoting DrWho? <x_files_(a)ihug.co.nz>: <list of software to aim at for the installfest> I'm not attacking DrWho here, he was merely the guy who quoted something - I'm just going to bring up this point. WLUG: "Look you can do all these cool things on linux, wowz0r!" Newbie: "Cool" WLUG: "Yeah, check these awesome programs out, they're exactly the same as your windows one" Newbie: "Hold up, I already had windows, and this is the same, why did I just waste 6 hours?" WLUG: <spouts inspirational stuff about Free As In Beer and Saving all the native cows of the south american rainforest and freeing the common people from the evil opresssor> Newbie "Hrmm... dirty hippies... give me back my windows, I'm comfortable with it and I can play battlefield 1942." Now I don't know nearly as much about all the software you can and can't get for various linux distros, but IMHO what you need is something which they can do in linux which they *can't* do (easily, if at all) in windows. If you get this one thing which is useful, then people will be interested and will accept Evolution/Mozilla/XMMS/etc as par for the course. Nobody's interested in doing a lot of work to accomplish what they already have, and even if they may be interested, a lot of students etc won't come to this installfest simply because they won't see (note the 'see') any gain in it. So, what can you do on linux better than you can do on windows which is actually visible to joe end user? (remember, increased security and all that stuff does not apply here). It doesn't have to be big or fancy, it just has to be something. (DISCLAIMER, As I've said I can't suggest this thing, but I'm hoping that some of you gurus will know) ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.