less time than it took the file manager to load (this was a few years 
ago, and the only gui file managers available were badly broken!). I've 
seen students laboriously retype gcc or javac command lines, often 
having to re-enter them when they inevitably made tyops, because they 

Does the CS department off much in the way of guidance in the OpenSource Java area?  Ie, things like how to use Ant, JUnit, Jakarta-* projects, Netbeans/Eclipse etc.  I think a lot of these things would be very helpful to students doing courses with Java as the programming language.

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