-----Original Message-----
From: Greig McGill [mailto:greig(a)hamiltron.net]
Sent: Wednesday, 22 September 2004 10:32 pm
To: Waikato Linux Users Group
Subject: [wlug] WLUG Members - Input Required
Greetings all.
Several matters have arisen at tonight's committee meeting which require
some input from the WLUG in general.
PLEASE read this email, and offer your input - preferably offlist, but
onlist if you'd like feedback from other WLUG members.
1. WLUG Funding
Last year, the committee attempted to raise funds for the purchase of a
mobile test rig/demo lab consisting of a server, a workstation, and
several peripherals for use in presentations, training, and perhaps
community education.
We were declined on all three attempts, but will be trying again this
year. What we need to know is: Is this a good goal for funding? Do
you have a better idea? Is there a service you would like to see the
WLUG provide that is currently unrealistic due to funding restrictions?
Keep in mind that funding must be applied for with a specific project in
mind, as funding cannot be used to meet ongoing running costs, or allow
for events that may not happen.
2. New and Inexperienced Users
As mentioned at the AGM, the WLUG has been accused of being unsupportive
of new or inexperienced users. It was explained that the *active*
members of the WLUG, ie. the ones who do all the work, are experienced
users, and are thus unlikely to arrange meetings on beginner topics, or
arrange installfests, which they have little desire to attend.
We don't wish to alienate the new or inexperienced users however, but we
need some of them to step up, and volunteer to present some beginner
topics, arrange workshops, and perhaps start a "beginner stream". You
will have the full backing, and support of the "old hands" - just tell
us what you need. I repeat TELL US WHAT YOU NEED! Nothing is more
demoralising than being complained at for not providing something which
no one has ever told us they wanted.
We do have something scheduled for the new people. October's meeting
will be dedicated to using the WLUG resources - the Wiki, mailing list,
effective use of Google, etc. It will also feature a live "fixup
workshop". This will consist of people bringing their "broken" setups,
and we will pick a few, and solve them, live, on the projector. This
will not only get the problem fixed, but will show the troubleshooting
process, and hopefully demystify the black-magic aspect of what the
'gurus' of the group do.
Details will follow. Suggestions are welcome and encouraged.
Regards,
Greig McGill
ElPresidente :)
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Good on you Bill..
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> I finally have most of the Ad-Hoc Wireless link
> working. Only missing Internet connection.
>
> Info @ http://www.wlug.org.nz/AdHoc
>
> Bill
>
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Hi everyone,
The Fist has announced the first meeting of its new committee, this
Wednesday.
There's a draft agenda up at
http://www.wlug.org.nz/CommitteeMeetingTopics.2004-09-22 - if anyone wants
anything put on the agenda for this meeting, can they please email me.
Remember, if we don't know about it, we can't fix it.
Regards,
Craig
Craig Box wrote:
> Hi Ben,
>
> Should have asked this earlier, but you wouldn't consider coming down
> to Hamilton and presenting a talk about your involvement with Firefox
> & the Mozilla Foundation to the Waikato Linux Users Group sometime,
> would you?
>
> Probably a bit too late to do so for your current trip, but I assume
> you're back every now and then?
>
> Let me know if it's the sort of thing you'd consider and if so, we'll
> see what can be done!
Hi Craig,
Sorry for the delayed response I've been very busy these past few weeks.
I'm fully booked for the next week so I won't be able to make it to
Hamilton but I'll let you know I am speaking on Firefox at the
University of Auckland (School of Engineering - 20 Symonds St - Room
3.402) on Monday 9/20 at high noon. Members of your group are welcome to
attend.
Regards,
--
Ben Goodger <ben(a)mozilla.org>
Lead Engineer, Mozilla Firefox
+1 (650) 492 0729
The Mozilla Foundation
1350C Villa St
Mountain View CA 94041
> You do have an Access point, right?
No I am trying to do Ad-Hoc using 2 Wireless cards.
Almost there!
Bill
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> It sounds like you're nearly there and your commands
> look mostly
> correct. A few suggestions and example commands
<snip>
Ok I tried the suggestions;
I have setup the Windows machine on deb1 and chanel 6
that part is fine.
Linux commands
ifdown eth1
iwconfig eth1 mode Ad-Hoc essid "deb1" channel 6
ifconfig eth1 192.168.0.5 netmask 255.255.255.0
broadcast 192.168.0.255
link established
ping 192.168.0.1
PING 192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
>From 192.168.0.5 icmp_seq=1 Destination Host
Unreachable
>From 192.168.0.5 icmp_seq=2 Destination Host
Unreachable
iwconfig eth1
eth1 IEEE 802.11b/g ESSID:"deb1"
Nickname:"mordor"
Mode:Ad-Hoc Channel:6 Cell:
9E:05:A8:9E:54:CF
Bit Rate:11Mb/s Tx-Power=31 dBm
Sensitivity=20/200
Retry min limit:8 RTS thr:2347 B
Fragment thr:2346 B
Encryption key:off
Link Quality:196/0 Signal level:-55 dBm
Noise level:-245 dBm
Rx invalid nwid:0 Rx invalid crypt:0 Rx
invalid frag:0
Tx excessive retries:0 Invalid misc:0
Missed beacon:0
route -n
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags
Metric Ref Use Iface
10.0.0.3 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH
1 0 0 sl0
192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U
0 0 0 eth1
127.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U
0 0 0 lo
0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 U
1 0 0 sl0
ifconfig eth1
eth1 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr
00:09:5B:C2:C7:1A
inet addr:192.168.0.5 Bcast:192.168.0.255
Mask:255.255.255.0
UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST MTU:1500
Metric:1
RX packets:0 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
frame:0
TX packets:48 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0
carrier:0
collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
RX bytes:0 (0.0 b) TX bytes:5316 (5.1 Kb)
Interrupt:10
Also Ethereal is looking for 192.168.0.1 using UDP and
ARP
If I remove WLAN and insert LAN I get
ping 192.168.0.1
PING 192.168.0.1 (192.168.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data.
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=1 ttl=64
time=0.549 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=2 ttl=64
time=0.328 ms
64 bytes from 192.168.0.1: icmp_seq=3 ttl=64
time=0.322 ms
So this is a big step in the right direction!
Just the last step to go!
Thanks
Bill
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http://www.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/warty/preview/ (incl. torrents)
I've got the i386 iso on the way, should have it in an hour or so, will let
people know how it goes.
I will also arrange for some finished Ubuntu CDs to be shipped to the WLUG
for distribution.
Craig
Hi
FYI - uBuntu translates to "humanity" or "the [collective] people" in
Zulu.
I had a smirk when I saw the distro being mentioned here this morning.
Gund
-----Original Message-----
From: A. Pagaltzis [mailto:pagaltzis(a)gmx.de]
Sent: Thursday, 16 September 2004 12:22 p.m.
To: Waikato Linux Users Group
Subject: Re: [wlug] Ubuntu 4.10 preview released
* Oliver Jones <oliver(a)deeper.co.nz> [2004-09-16 01:40]:
> I wish more distros compiled their apps as at least i586
> binaries. No one (or nearly no one) would attempt to use a
> modern distro on a i386 anymore. Even 486 systems will be hard
> to come by now.
Slackware's packages are compiled for i486.
Although I think it would be reasonable to compile the X-based
stuff for i586 and better. Noone in their right mind is going to
use a 486 as a desktop with GNOME.
Regards,
--
Aristotle
"If you can't laugh at yourself, you don't take life seriously enough."
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