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ANNOUNCE: WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 16 Jul '06

16 Jul '06

The Waikato Linux Users Group have a meeting in one week from today: ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Our July guest is Roger de Salis, a director of http://www.wlug.org.nz/FxNetworks. FX Networks are a http://www.wlug.org.nz/Wellington company with significant http://www.wlug.org.nz/Unix and http://www.wlug.org.nz/Cisco Networking experience. The principals of FX have over 50 years experience in the IT and Telecommunications industry, the bulk of which is about continuously available on-line systems for public use. They specialise in bringing interesting technical ideas to market. FX believe you should be able to get connectivity far greater than what is currently available in New Zealand, and have made great investment in a fibre network around New Zealand. They're also pioneers in the use of http://www.wlug.org.nz/VoIP. If you're interested in the InterNet or telephone calls, this is a meeting not to be missed!

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Re: [wlug] hosts file
by David Bowen 16 Jul '06

16 Jul '06

David wrote Hi After playing with my networking settings in Breezy, I seem to have lost some data from my /etc/hosts file. Partly it requires editing to add to add "ubuntuDavid" to it. However without it I can't log in as root to edit it. Can't find password! I can't edit it with Knoppix, I don't have permission. Is there any way to edit it or is it a reinstall job. As it is I can't connect to the net or anything requiring root privilege. Thanks David Bowen > Shane wrote: > > Hi Dave, > The file probably needs permissions changed for it to be edited under knoppix > chmod a+w /mount/drive/etc/hosts > > If this still doesnt work, its time to boot to single user mode <g> > This should give you some direction > from > http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-7.3-Manual/custom-guide/s1-res… > > Select Ubuntu with the version of the kernel that you wish to boot and type e > for edit. You will be presented with a list of items in the configuration > file for the title you just selected. > > Select the line that starts with kernel and type e to edit the line. > > Go to the end of the line and type single as a separate word (press the > [Spacebar] and then type single). Press [Enter] to exit edit mode. > > Back at the GRUB screen, type b to boot into single user mode. > > Then edit your file > > Regards > Shane > > *Thanks Shane. Changing the permissions worked. Thinking about it My command was probably trying to execute the file rather than open it and root did not have permission to execute it. I will look at the book I have at work to look into that next week. Then I can change the permission back again! I have to admit I tend to use command line only when necessary, but I am starting to get the hang of it Thanks all for the help. * > > >> >> > Here's a possibility: > > root doesn't have a password set at all under ubuntu. Instead, log in as > your user and run 'sudo nano /etc/hosts', and enter *your* password > in. This assumes that your account is the first one that was created > when you installed the machine. > > If this doesn't work, it possibly means that more than the hosts file > has become corrupted. Consider upgrading to dapper at about this point. > *Nope that didn't work either Fortunately the message at boot pointed to /etc/hosts and I just basically copied it from my dapper install and it all worked.* >> I can't edit it with Knoppix, I don't have permission. Is there any way >> to edit it or is it a reinstall job. >> >> > > With knoppix you'd still need to run a root terminal, instead of just > the normal one. > > *Yup I had tried that* > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 16 Jul 2006 10:49:27 +1200 > From: zcat <zcat(a)wired.net.nz> > Subject: Re: [wlug] hosts file > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Message-ID: <44B970F7.4020706(a)wired.net.nz> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > > >> With knoppix you'd still need to run a root terminal, instead of just >> the normal one. >> >> > You also need to mount the filesystem read-write, knoppix defaults to > mounting things read-only. > > The GUI way; right-click the icon for your filesystem, unmount if it's > already mounted, then chose the option for mounting read-write. > > The root-terminal way; mount /mnt/hda1 -o remount,rw > (I forget exactly where knoppix mounts things and /mnt/hda1 is a > guess... substitute the actual mountpoint here) > > And as Daniel says, you'll need to edit the file as root too. > > *Yup I had done that, It was HDA3 as it is dual bootede with that other OS* > > ------------------------------ > > >

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Command line help for new users
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 16 Jul '06

16 Jul '06

Hello all, I stumbled across this excellent resource for new users while searching for the answer to another problem. It is possible that we have this info in our Wiki but I did not find it yet. The thread is nine pages long and has a couple of other good links within it if anyone wishes to take the time to study it. http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73885 Please add more links that may be appropriatte. Regards John

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hosts file
by David Bowen 15 Jul '06

15 Jul '06

Hi After playing with my networking settings in Breezy, I seem to have lost some data from my /etc/hosts file. Partly it requires editing to add to add "ubuntuDavid" to it. However without it I can't log in as root to edit it. Can't find password! I can't edit it with Knoppix, I don't have permission. Is there any way to edit it or is it a reinstall job. As it is I can't connect to the net or anything requiring root privilege. Thanks David Bowen

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Upcoming WLUG committee meeting (1 week today)
by Meeting Reminder bot 12 Jul '06

12 Jul '06

As per the WLUG charter, please note that there is a WLUG executive committee meeting one week from today. If you wish to get an item on the agenda for this meeting, please email it to secretary(a)wlug.org.nz. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- WLUG Committee Meeting Scheduled for this date or near offer. To have something added to the agenda for this meeting, please email secretary @ wlug.org.nz. Provisional agenda: # Minutes from previous meeting # Matters arising # Correspondence # Treasurers report # General business ----- CommitteeMeetingTopics

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Skype working better for Linux
by Ian McDonald 12 Jul '06

12 Jul '06

Folks, I'm meant to be making a Skype call at 5 am tomorrow (yeah!!) to talk about Linux but I have had bad experiences with Skype previously with sound working (or more to the point not!) and preferred not to use Windows in case I need to look something up that I'm talking about. Anyway I've now found that Skype for Linux has a new beta out which now uses ALSA by default as the sound system instead of OSS. What this means is that sound seems to "just work" now for me. If you have had problems with Skype have a look at: http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/13beta.html or: http://www.skype.com/download/skype/linux/changelog.html Still no webcam support yet but this is a big step forward for me at least. Ian -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Re Intel Modem on Dapper
by David Bowen 11 Jul '06

11 Jul '06

Hi Matt wrote At this point the hamregistry and the driver itself have been installed successfully (as per the previous two messages), what you don't have is the boot scripts. It's a fairly simply matter to install these manually: run the following commands as root: # install -o root -g root -m 755 Intel536_boot /etc/init.d/Intel536 # ln -s ../init.d/Intel536 /etc/rcS.d/S16Intel536 Shouldn't I be able to find 536ep0 in /dev if the drivers are installed? Nothing there! Bnonn. I ran your script but it just looked for repositories, Not found of course as we have no Internet connection. Have not been able to network Breezy with Dapper or SUSE 10.1 yet. Can ping them both ways but cant get Internet connection through them to patch Yast yet. Regards David

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Ubuntu commercial repository
by Ian McDonald 11 Jul '06

11 Jul '06

Now you can install Opera, Real Player easily if you wish: http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/07/08/introducing-the-dapper-commercial-re… You can debate the merits of whether having closed source software in Linux is a good thing or an evil thing but this is available anyway... -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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Re: [wlug] Another step on the way to corporate use of Linux
by Kitto, Adrian - Axon AKL 10 Jul '06

10 Jul '06

-----Original Message----- Lotus Notes is now running on Linux: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060710-7222.html -- Ian McDonald Hi, This is a little bit of a thread hi-jack but it is about corporate use of Linux so here goes..... I am an application packager by trade (MS environment) and the latest version of Wise Package Studio (http://www.wise.com/Products/Packaging/Overview.aspx) supports creation and editing of RPM files. The beauty of this tool is how simple it is to create and deploy consistent applications to large enterprises (we package the application to work consistently on 2k/xp/vista/citrix). I know it is doing nothing that couldn't already be done via a command line packaging tool but a lot of companies have already invested massive amounts of money in Wise infrastructure with delegated rights, deployment systems and reporting and would love to be able to apply those processes to their Linux systems. So now with Wise and Notes I can build 2 (MS/RPM) packages following the same configuration and testing steps and have every user running the same application and configuration while my manager can manager the teams workflows and productivity via the reporting functions. I know most of you will not see it this way, but this is a massive leap forward for Linux in the Standard Operating Environments that I help design and deploy. Cheers Adrian -- The information contained in this e-mail message is intended only for the use of the person or entity to whom it is addressed and may contain information that is CONFIDENTIAL and may be exempt from disclosure under applicable laws. If you read this message and are not the addressee you are notified that use, dissemination, distribution, or reproduction of this message is prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately and delete the original message. You should scan this message and any attached files for viruses. Axon accepts no liability for any loss caused either directly or indirectly by a virus arising from the use of this message or any attached file.

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Another step on the way to corporate use of Linux
by Ian McDonald 10 Jul '06

10 Jul '06

Lotus Notes is now running on Linux: http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20060710-7222.html IBM have a stated goal to run much of their business on Linux and since they own Lotus they will have converted this as they probably use heavily. This will potentially help Linux uptake in places like accounting firms and governments which use Notes quite heavily. -- Ian McDonald Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4 Blog: http://imcdnzl.blogspot.com WAND Network Research Group Department of Computer Science University of Waikato New Zealand

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