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10 Aug '08

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[Fwd: Re: Ogg Vorbis format - freedom?]
by Roger Sinel 09 Aug '08

09 Aug '08

Here is the answer to the question regarding distribution of the RMS interview file, from the Radio NZ Webmaster. /Roger Sinel -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: Webmaster <Webmaster(a)radionz.co.nz> To: roger.sinel(a)nordickiwi.com Subject: Re: Ogg Vorbis format - freedom? Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 21:41:01 +1200 Hello Roger, It is covered by our standard terms of use, which essentially allows for personal use only. You can link to the audio though, provided credit of the source is given (the link is not going to expire). regards, Richard Hulse Webmaster >>> rsinel(a)bredband.net 08/09/08 8:55 PM >>> Hello, Is the interview file from the Richard Stallman freely distributable? http://podcast.radionz.co.nz/sat/sat-20080809-0845-Richard_Stallman_Freedom… -- Mvh Roger Sinel roger.sinel(a)nordickiwi.com www.nordickiwi.com + gpg key -- http://www.nordickiwi.com/rsinel.asc + fingerprint -- F0EF 2C17 99CA DC06 132A 967F B642 D0BA 6503 87C7

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[Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: Fwd: FYI: Richard Stallman interview tomorrow at 8.12am]]
by Roger Sinel 09 Aug '08

09 Aug '08

Bruce, I forwarded your question to Simon Bridge. See his answers below. I see that all the audio files from the saturday program http://www.radionz.co.nz/national/programmes/saturday are in Ogg Vorbis format... but does that mean that all the files are freely distributable or just the RMS interview? /Roger Sinel -------- Forwarded Message -------- From: simon <simonbridge(a)ihug.co.nz> To: roger.sinel(a)nordickiwi.com Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [wlug] Fwd: FYI: Richard Stallman interview tomorrow at 8.12am] Date: Sat, 09 Aug 2008 18:26:54 +1200 Roger Sinel wrote: > Hi Simon, a few of us from WLUG are wondering if Radio NZ meant that the > interview Ogg Vorbis files will be freely distributable? > > I just thought you might be in the know about this. > > Simon Bridge wrote: that's our understanding. > /Roger Sinel > > > Mvh > Roger Sinel > roger.sinel(a)nordickiwi.com > www.nordickiwi.com > > > -------- Forwarded Message -------- > From: Bruce Kingsbury <zcat(a)zcat.geek.nz> > Reply-To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Subject: Re: [wlug] Fwd: FYI: Richard Stallman interview tomorrow at > 8.12am > Date: Sat, 9 Aug 2008 09:27:10 +1200 > > >> Hi there, >> >> FYI: Richard Stallman is being interviewed by Kim Hill tomorrow >> morning on Radio NZ at 8.12am. >> >> Saturday Morning >> with Kim Hill >> Saturday, 8am - Midday >> > > Just finished listening to this (via a propriatory MS streaming format ;) > > Not a bad interview, and at the end they mentioned it will also be > available as an Ogg Vorbis file. They didn't mention if it would be > freely re distributable though, which I think would be just as > important as the format it's released in. > Simon Bridge wrote: Yes - rms was clear about this. The website should be specifying a cc licence > _______________________________________________ > > + gpg key -- http://www.nordickiwi.com/rsinel.asc > + fingerprint -- F0EF 2C17 99CA DC06 132A 967F B642 D0BA 6503 87C7 > > -- Mvh Roger Sinel roger.sinel(a)nordickiwi.com www.nordickiwi.com + gpg key -- http://www.nordickiwi.com/rsinel.asc + fingerprint -- F0EF 2C17 99CA DC06 132A 967F B642 D0BA 6503 87C7

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Fwd: FYI: Richard Stallman interview tomorrow at 8.12am
by Peter Reutemann 08 Aug '08

08 Aug '08

---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Marieke Boleyn <mboleyn(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz> Date: Fri, Aug 8, 2008 at 2:36 PM Subject: FYI: Richard Stallman interview tomorrow at 8.12am Hi there, FYI: Richard Stallman is being interviewed by Kim Hill tomorrow morning on Radio NZ at 8.12am. Saturday Morning with Kim Hill Saturday, 8am - Midday Guest details for Saturday Morning 9 August 2008 8:12 Richard Stallman Richard Stallman is a software freedom activist and developer. In 1983 he announced the project to develop the GNU operating system, a Unix-like operating system meant to be entirely free software, and has been the project's leader ever since. He is visiting New Zealand for a range of engagements and events from 6 to 12 August to help promote the use, dissemination and ideals of free software.

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Re: [wlug] wlug Digest, Vol 206, Issue 5
by Jaco van der Merwe 08 Aug '08

08 Aug '08

I have some mates in SA, some with a bit of Linux experience, but more the C's, who are looking to come here. If you don't find somebody, pm me - Jaco > From: wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: wlug Digest, Vol 206, Issue 5 > To: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:00:07 +1200 > > Send wlug mailing list submissions to > wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > You can reach the person managing the list at > wlug-owner(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of wlug digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. $250 Reward offered (Marcela Sierra C) > 2. Fwd: Seminar: Richard Stallman - Copyright vs Community > (Peter Reutemann) > 3. Re: Fwd: Seminar: Richard Stallman - Copyright vs Community > (James Pluck) > 4. Re: $250 Reward offered (Shannon Skinner) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 15:30:50 +1200 > From: Marcela Sierra C <ttmsierra(a)hotmail.com> > Subject: [wlug] $250 Reward offered > To: <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Message-ID: <BAY115-W214F76831AECEF8AA89AB6BC750(a)phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Hi there > > Can you help me? I'm looking for someone with SQL, HTML & JavaScript experience - Perl & Informix exp & RedHat quals an advantage but totally negotiable - for a great job in Hamilton. It's exclusively mine and I'd love to find the right person in Hamilton rather than going after candidates in Auckland or overseas. Do you know anyone you could refer to me? > > There is a $250 reward for the person who refers the successful candidate. Please take a look at my ad for more info: > > http://it.seek.co.nz/users/apply/index.ascx?Sequence=54&PageNumber=1&JobID=… > > Thanks for your time :) > > Marcela > _________________________________________________________________ > Get inspired - dream, research, plan and book your next holiday online with MSN NZ Travel > http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Ftravel%2Emsn%2Eco%2Enz&_t=7… >

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Re: [wlug] Job description
by Marcela Sierra C 08 Aug '08

08 Aug '08

Hi Sorry, Shannon, I can't discuss the job here for business reasons but I am happy to discuss who the role is with if you call me on 09 302 7023 or 0212733300; if you send through your CV (whether you ultimately decide to ask us to put you forward or not), I can send you the job description and discuss the pay rate with you. Unfortunately, we have been experiencing technical difficulties with our email at the moment, which is why I have subscribed to the mailing list through my hotmail address, but you can either apply directly through www.seek.co.nz or send your CV to me at marcela(a)absoluteit.co.nz or ttmsierra(a)hotmail.com. Thanks for your interest; I appreciate you taking the time to consider the role. Kind regards, Marcela> From: wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Subject: wlug Digest, Vol 206, Issue 5> To: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Date: Fri, 8 Aug 2008 12:00:07 +1200> > Send wlug mailing list submissions to> wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > You can reach the person managing the list at> wlug-owner(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> than "Re: Contents of wlug digest..."> > > Today's Topics:> > 1. $250 Reward offered (Marcela Sierra C)> 2. Fwd: Seminar: Richard Stallman - Copyright vs Community> (Peter Reutemann)> 3. Re: Fwd: Seminar: Richard Stallman - Copyright vs Community> (James Pluck)> 4. Re: $250 Reward offered (Shannon Skinner)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 15:30:50 +1200> From: Marcela Sierra C <ttmsierra(a)hotmail.com>> Subject: [wlug] $250 Reward offered> To: <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>> Message-ID: <BAY115-W214F76831AECEF8AA89AB6BC750(a)phx.gbl>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > > Hi there> > Can you help me? I'm looking for someone with SQL, HTML & JavaScript experience - Perl & Informix exp & RedHat quals an advantage but totally negotiable - for a great job in Hamilton. It's exclusively mine and I'd love to find the right person in Hamilton rather than going after candidates in Auckland or overseas. Do you know anyone you could refer to me?> > There is a $250 reward for the person who refers the successful candidate. Please take a look at my ad for more info: > > http://it.seek.co.nz/users/apply/index.ascx?Sequence=54&PageNumber=1&JobID=…> > Thanks for your time :)> > Marcela> _________________________________________________________________> Get inspired - dream, research, plan and book your next holiday online with MSN NZ Travel > http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Ftravel%2Emsn%2Eco%2Enz&_t=7…> -------------- next part --------------> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...> URL: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20080807/8b06e689/atta… > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 15:59:16 +1200> From: "Peter Reutemann" <fracpete(a)waikato.ac.nz>> Subject: [wlug] Fwd: Seminar: Richard Stallman - Copyright vs> Community> To: "Waikato Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>> Message-ID:> <548e07050808062059p5bbef080lde597b8b9cc47164(a)mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1> > Hi there> > Below the official announcement of RMS' visit here at Waikato university.> > Note: Use the following link to search for block "L" (the seminar is> taking place in room 01 on the ground floor):> http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map/> > Cheers, Peter> > ---------------------------------------------------> SEMINAR: Wednesday 20 August, 6 - 8pm in LG.01> ----------------------------------------------------> Title: Copyright vs Community> Speaker: Richard Stallman> > Seminar Flyer: http://www.scms.waikato.ac.nz/docs/pdfs/Copyright_Lecture_DL_Flyer.pdf> > Abstract:> Copyright developed in the age of the printing press, and was designed> to fit with the system of centralized copying imposed by the printing> press. But the copyright system does not fit well with computer> networks, and only draconian punishments can enforce it.> > The global corporations that profit from copyright are lobbying for> draconian punishments, and to increase their copyright powers, while> suppressing public access to technology. But if we seriously hope to> serve the only legitimate purpose of copyright to promote progress,> for the benefit of the public then we must make changes in the other> direction.> > Biography:> Richard Stallman is a free software activist and programmer, the> founder of GNU Project, original author of the GNU/GPL, and Founder> and President of the Free Software Foundation. He has received> several awards and honorary doctorates for his work.> > -- > Marieke Boleyn> Academic Support Officer> Department of Computer Science> The University of Waikato> Phone: 07 838 4911> Website: www.cs.waikato.ac.nz> > > ------------------------------> > Message: 3> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 16:32:06 +1200> From: "James Pluck" <papabearnz(a)gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [wlug] Fwd: Seminar: Richard Stallman - Copyright vs> Community> To: "Waikato Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>> Message-ID:> <69dff2130808062132t30acecf0y3173995ef3e8fbb5(a)mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"> > I've printed several of these out to pin up round the noticeboards at the> Hospital.> > J> > > On 8/7/08, Peter Reutemann <fracpete(a)waikato.ac.nz> wrote:> >> > Hi there> >> > Below the official announcement of RMS' visit here at Waikato university.> >> > Note: Use the following link to search for block "L" (the seminar is> > taking place in room 01 on the ground floor):> > http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map/> >> > Cheers, Peter> >> > ---------------------------------------------------> > SEMINAR: Wednesday 20 August, 6 - 8pm in LG.01> > ----------------------------------------------------> > Title: Copyright vs Community> > Speaker: Richard Stallman> >> > Seminar Flyer:> > http://www.scms.waikato.ac.nz/docs/pdfs/Copyright_Lecture_DL_Flyer.pdf> >> > Abstract:> > Copyright developed in the age of the printing press, and was designed> > to fit with the system of centralized copying imposed by the printing> > press. But the copyright system does not fit well with computer> > networks, and only draconian punishments can enforce it.> >> > The global corporations that profit from copyright are lobbying for> > draconian punishments, and to increase their copyright powers, while> > suppressing public access to technology. But if we seriously hope to> > serve the only legitimate purpose of copyright to promote progress,> > for the benefit of the public then we must make changes in the other> > direction.> >> > Biography:> > Richard Stallman is a free software activist and programmer, the> > founder of GNU Project, original author of the GNU/GPL, and Founder> > and President of the Free Software Foundation. He has received> > several awards and honorary doctorates for his work.> >> > --> > Marieke Boleyn> > Academic Support Officer> > Department of Computer Science> > The University of Waikato> > Phone: 07 838 4911> > Website: www.cs.waikato.ac.nz> > _______________________________________________> > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug> >> > > > -- > James Pluck> PalmOS Ergo Sum> "Dear IRS: I would like to cancel my subscription.> Please remove my name from your mailing list..."> -------------- next part --------------> An HTML attachment was scrubbed...> URL: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/wlug/attachments/20080807/60308c84/atta… > > ------------------------------> > Message: 4> Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 22:23:51 +1200> From: "Shannon Skinner" <shannonsnz(a)gmail.com>> Subject: Re: [wlug] $250 Reward offered> To: "Waikato Linux Users Group" <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz>> Message-ID:> <d0b0f8450808070323h42122625hba6dbf3bfa9e5d51(a)mail.gmail.com>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1> > This is just a stab in the dark here, but is that job for Fonterra?> > > On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Marcela Sierra C <ttmsierra(a)hotmail.com> wrote:> > Hi there> >> > Can you help me? I'm looking for someone with SQL, HTML & JavaScript> > experience - Perl & Informix exp & RedHat quals an advantage but totally> > negotiable - for a great job in Hamilton. It's exclusively mine and I'd> > love to find the right person in Hamilton rather than going after candidates> > in Auckland or overseas. Do you know anyone you could refer to me?> >> > There is a $250 reward for the person who refers the successful candidate.> > Please take a look at my ad for more info:> >> > http://it.seek.co.nz/users/apply/index.ascx?Sequence=54&PageNumber=1&JobID=…> >> > Thanks for your time :)> >> > Marcela> >> > ________________________________> > MSN NZ Travel Get inspired - dream, research, plan and book your next> > holiday online with> > _______________________________________________> > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug> >> >> > > ------------------------------> > _______________________________________________> wlug mailing list> wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug> > > End of wlug Digest, Vol 206, Issue 5> ************************************ _________________________________________________________________ Buy, rent, invest property online today. http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eallrealestate%2Eco%2E…

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$250 Reward offered
by Marcela Sierra C 07 Aug '08

07 Aug '08

Hi there Can you help me? I'm looking for someone with SQL, HTML & JavaScript experience - Perl & Informix exp & RedHat quals an advantage but totally negotiable - for a great job in Hamilton. It's exclusively mine and I'd love to find the right person in Hamilton rather than going after candidates in Auckland or overseas. Do you know anyone you could refer to me? There is a $250 reward for the person who refers the successful candidate. Please take a look at my ad for more info: http://it.seek.co.nz/users/apply/index.ascx?Sequence=54&PageNumber=1&JobID=… Thanks for your time :) Marcela _________________________________________________________________ Get inspired - dream, research, plan and book your next holiday online with MSN NZ Travel http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Ftravel%2Emsn%2Eco%2Enz&_t=7…

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Fwd: Seminar: Richard Stallman - Copyright vs Community
by Peter Reutemann 07 Aug '08

07 Aug '08

Hi there Below the official announcement of RMS' visit here at Waikato university. Note: Use the following link to search for block "L" (the seminar is taking place in room 01 on the ground floor): http://www.waikato.ac.nz/contacts/map/ Cheers, Peter --------------------------------------------------- SEMINAR: Wednesday 20 August, 6 - 8pm in LG.01 ---------------------------------------------------- Title: Copyright vs Community Speaker: Richard Stallman Seminar Flyer: http://www.scms.waikato.ac.nz/docs/pdfs/Copyright_Lecture_DL_Flyer.pdf Abstract: Copyright developed in the age of the printing press, and was designed to fit with the system of centralized copying imposed by the printing press. But the copyright system does not fit well with computer networks, and only draconian punishments can enforce it. The global corporations that profit from copyright are lobbying for draconian punishments, and to increase their copyright powers, while suppressing public access to technology. But if we seriously hope to serve the only legitimate purpose of copyright to promote progress, for the benefit of the public then we must make changes in the other direction. Biography: Richard Stallman is a free software activist and programmer, the founder of GNU Project, original author of the GNU/GPL, and Founder and President of the Free Software Foundation. He has received several awards and honorary doctorates for his work. -- Marieke Boleyn Academic Support Officer Department of Computer Science The University of Waikato Phone: 07 838 4911 Website: www.cs.waikato.ac.nz

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OpenOffice 2.4 review
by Ian McDonald 05 Aug '08

05 Aug '08

http://www.zdnet.com.au/reviews/software/applications/soa/OpenOffice-org-2-… After last time commenting on OO I will refrain from it this time... -- Web: http://wand.net.nz/~iam4/ Blog: http://iansblog.jandi.co.nz

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RMS in the press.
by Bruce Kingsbury 05 Aug '08

05 Aug '08

http://computerworld.co.nz/news.nsf/news/0064FE274A08BA2CCC25749A00383CB3 Richard Stallman will be speaking at Waikato University, 6pm Aug 20th. No idea where yet, but I've been told Marieke is onto it so hopefully I'll know soon. Copyright vs Community in the Age of Computer Networks Copyright developed in the age of the printing press, and was designed to fit with the system of centralized copying imposed by the printing press. But the copyright system does not fit well with computer networks, and only draconian punishments can enforce it. The global corporations that profit from copyright are lobbying for draconian punishments, and to increase their copyright powers, while suppressing public access to technology. But if we seriously hope to serve the only legitimate purpose of copyright -- to promote progress, for the benefit of the public -- then we must make changes in the other direction.

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