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Re: [wlug] filesystems for large drives
by Volker Kuhlmann 22 Sep '02

22 Sep '02

> I'd be interested to know what journalling file systems people are using > on large drives and how reliable they've been. reiserfs, very reliable, fast, very easy. Out of the box with quota support, in 3 weeks with acl support out of the box (likewise for xfs, jfs, and ext3). Can put on root fs with zero trouble (been able to do that for years). Also out of the box are xfs, jfs, and ext3. From reading a very few things about journalling filesystems recently I get the impression that ext3 has too many limitations and isn't as well tested as the others. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.orcon.net.nz/ Please do not CC list postings to me.

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Re: [wlug] linux backup
by Matthias Dallmeier 17 Sep '02

17 Sep '02

Daniel Lawson wrote: > Interesting, because perry just wrote a script that does the same thing, > more or less. His looks a lot better tho ;) (uses rsync for suitable > things, has better support for adding in new things to backup, etc) So where can I find a copy of Perry's backup script? And is it written in Perl? -- Matthias

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Secure email transmission, GPG ?
by Andrew Thrift 11 Sep '02

11 Sep '02

O.k. I have a PHP based web-shop that as an order is entered emails me the credit card details in un-encrypted form. What I want to do is use gpg to encrypt these mails with a secret key so that only I can read them. I have very little knowledge of the workings of PGP/GPG but from perusing the man pages and README I have figured I can take the following approach: 1. An order is entered, PHP dumps data to a temp file 2. gpg is called to encrypt this. 3. encrypted file is sent to myself using unix mail command. Is this the only way of doing it, or is their an easier way? Thanks, Andrew Thrift

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RE: [wlug] Secure email transmission, GPG ?
by Andrew Bryan 11 Sep '02

11 Sep '02

that might do it... but it seems a little redundant since (it sounds like) the credit card numbers are going to travel in unencrypted plain text from the clients machine to your web server... or are your running SSL over HTTP? -----Original Message----- From: Andrew Thrift [mailto:andrew(a)millenniumtechnology.co.nz] Sent: Thursday, 12 September 2002 09:39 To: Waikato Linux Users Group Subject: [wlug] Secure email transmission, GPG ? O.k. I have a PHP based web-shop that as an order is entered emails me the credit card details in un-encrypted form. What I want to do is use gpg to encrypt these mails with a secret key so that only I can read them. I have very little knowledge of the workings of PGP/GPG but from perusing the man pages and README I have figured I can take the following approach: 1. An order is entered, PHP dumps data to a temp file 2. gpg is called to encrypt this. 3. encrypted file is sent to myself using unix mail command. Is this the only way of doing it, or is their an easier way? Thanks, Andrew Thrift

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Hello,meeting notice
by vinceh 11 Sep '02

11 Sep '02

------------------ Virus Warning Message ------------------ VALUE.pif is removed from here because it contains a virus. ------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------ Virus Warning Message ------------------ Found virus WORM_KLEZ.H in file VALUE.pif The uncleanable file is deleted. -------------------------------------------------------------

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Hard drive
by Craig Box 10 Sep '02

10 Sep '02

I have a variety of PC bits floating around in my shed. I've got a dumb terminal or two, a couple of AT cases & PSUs with 486SX's and 30 pin RAM in them, a 120mb HDD in my drawer, and they're all taking up space that I'm going to need to free sometime soon. Free to a good home. Email off list if you want anything (Someone, please... ) There's almost enough guts here for someones first Linux router, although I'm sure you could pick up a Pentium class machine for about the same price. Might also be good for smashing. BTW, have I missed the radio club's sale day? Craig

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Radio Club Surplus Sale
by Lynette Mckenna 06 Sep '02

06 Sep '02

Is that this weekend?

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Kspread sheets
by Dave Foxcroft 30 Aug '02

30 Aug '02

Hi, My name is Cindy. I am curious as to the difference between linex kspreadshets and windows excel spreadsheets. In excel you can freeze frames, can you do this in linex? I have tried the help thingie, but cant get direction like I can with excel? Should I give up? Can anyone there help me? Cindy alias Desperate

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Re: [wlug] Memory Error?
by Paul MacDonald 19 Aug '02

19 Aug '02

> duel boot heh, sounds about right. ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Stephen Heise" <fordfairlanelover(a)yahoo.co.nz> To: <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Sent: Monday, August 19, 2002 8:12 AM Subject: [wlug] Memory Error?

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Re: [wlug] cups
by V K 12 Aug '02

12 Aug '02

> I am running cups as the printer daemon under Suse 8.0. Rpm -q cups > reveals version 1.1.12-69 is installed. Ensure your yast modules for cups are current. There were updates. Did you use yast to configure it or did you do it the long way? http://sdb.suse.de/de/sdb/html/jsmeix_print-cups.html http://sdb.suse.de/en/sdb/html/jsmeix_print-cups.html might tell you something. I briefly switched to cups and didn't think it was as well supported, I didn't like it and went back to lprng. lprng does page counting by default, though I'd find it much more useful if it accounted for the ink used as paper costs nothing in comparison... Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.orcon.net.nz/ Please do not CC list postings to me.

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Re: [wlug] SMTP server
by Paul MacDonald 01 Aug '02

01 Aug '02

Thank you to all those who offered suggestions on this subject. I have got permission from the local admin to use their SMTP server when not at home. When at home I can either use the ISP's server or set up my own. So all is now well. Now I just gotta figure out Mutt... looks good though. Paul.

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linux cd's
by SG 31 Jul '02

31 Jul '02

Hi all Hey long time no see.. great to see all the development going on and the excellent wlug wiki web pages! Easy to navigate ones way around.. I would like to get a recent copy of Red Hat or Mandrake off someone to set up at home and work if poss.. would be cool.. Also.. does anybody know or worked with a distro called RTLinux... for real time programming stuff. - possibilities for where I work :) Cheers Simon

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Re: [wlug] GPG test
by Oliver Jones 23 Jul '02

23 Jul '02

It does not appear to. But we can't expect too much for version 1.0.x Does evolution not automagically d/l keys on demand? I know I've got mutt set up to (which puts an annoying pause in while it d/l's it when I get a message from someone new) -- Oliver Jones > Senior Software Engineer > Deeper Design Limited. oliver(a)deeper.co.nz > www.deeperdesign.com

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Re: [wlug] GPG/PGP key signing
by Paul MacDonald 19 Jul '02

19 Jul '02

Hmm, I don't see a button for this in Hotmail. ;-) BTW, does anyone know of free e-mail accounts that are not WWW browser based? Though it would be good to have in addition to POP3 et al. P. _________________________________________________________________ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com

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Re: [wlug] Debian /etc/*
by Paul MacDonald 19 Jul '02

19 Jul '02

Hmm, perhaps I should clarify this. Could still boot original install of Debian. cp /etc/* /mnt/hdb1/etc/ (with recursion option on -r or -R ...I forget) ^^^^win98 install with spare space. Re-install - everything on ext2 partitions. cp -f /mnt/hdb1/etc/* /etc/ problems begin... --- I have been thinking since my initial post. Another re-install will be the least troublesome way to remedy this. I was hoping to fix it the tricky way but that doesn't seem to have served well so far. :-) Oh well, a lesson learned. Fortunately I found a utility (now where did I put that...) to read ext2 partitions from windows so all that apt-get over modem is not wasted. Seeya, Paul. --- >From: Oliver Jones <oliver(a)deeper.co.nz> >Reply-To: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> >Subject: Re: [wlug] Debian /etc/* >Date: 19 Jul 2002 17:11:04 +1200 > >Question: Why on earth did you have your /etc on a FAT partition in the >first place??? > _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com

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Re: [wlug] GPG/PGP key signing
by Oliver Jones 19 Jul '02

19 Jul '02

Naughty perry: This message is digitally signed but can not be proven to be authentic. gpg: armor header: Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) gpg: armor header: Comment: Only when you are sure they have you, can you stop being paranoid gpg: Signature made Fri 19 Jul 2002 21:12:52 NZST using DSA key ID 2F33F144 gpg: BAD signature from "Perry Lorier (Local network) <perry(a)coders.tla>" I imported your key as you posted it on the Wiki and it doesn't seem to work. Or you're using a different key to sign you message to the list. On Fri, 2002-07-19 at 21:12, Perry Lorier wrote: -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 > I figured I might as well start using this little GnuPG thing... > I used to use my gpg key a lot, but had problems with OE not being able to read my emails, which sucks, since one of the major reasons I wanted it was to email votes for various projects I'm associated and the person that collated the ballots used OE. Uh. > I've added a link to my public key on my Wiki Page... > http://coders.meta.net.nz/wlug/OliverJones I just included mine on my page :) > My email client (Evolution) even supports GnuPG quite well. I beleive you > can get some sort of plugin for Mozilla. mutt supports it really well too, and supports it according to the RFC, unfortunately, OE doesn't, and doesn't show the email at all :( Recently however mutt has added an option to do it stupidly that OE can (hopefully) read. This is one of my first test emails with it :) > Outlook Express on the other hand doesn't have a clue what's going on... Shouldn't be a problem for this list, right? <runs, grinning and ducking> - -- <doogie> Debian - All the power, without the silly hat. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Only when you are sure they have you, can you stop being paranoid iEYEARECAAYFAj032BQACgkQcAgRpy8z8USGNgCbBWssUgozEUk7DktuembqRqrd rZAAoIp21NYAVxUEr5aF9/tx769KLFmO =i67V -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Oliver Jones > Software Engineer > Deeper Design Limited. oliver(a)deeper.co.nz > www.deeperdesign.com

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Re: [wlug] GPG/PGP key signing
by Craig Box 19 Jul '02

19 Jul '02

> > If you must use a windows email client, The Bat! supports PGP key's very > > nicely. > > > > Ah, I don't use Windows email clients, or in fact windows at all, the > problem is people using windows who can't read my emails :( Especially when people exploit a bug in Outlook's mime routines to hide their messages for anyone who doesn't want to have to run them through "View Source"! I've disabled the priority column in my message view because of you, too :) Personally, in the most part, I trust that you're really you, and have always considered PGP unnecessary for day to day use. I'd like an e-mail client to hide PGP blocks and perhaps just tell me if a message is signed or unsigned automatically. Craig

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GPG/PGP Key Signing
by Craig Mckenna 19 Jul '02

19 Jul '02

I'm interested in getting some more signatures on my GPG keys anyone interested in signing/ having me/others sign theirs, bring your passport and GPG/PGP fingerprint with you to WLUG meeting on monday I'm going to attempt to write up some notes on the Wiki[1] about how to sign keys etc [1] http://coders.meta.net.nz/wlug/ -- -- Craig Mckenna IT Systems Manager Eforms Limited

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Re: [wlug] installing Mandrake
by Gian Perrone 12 Jul '02

12 Jul '02

You should be able to, although it might be a good idea to check out a Linux hardware compatability list (url, anyone?). Otherwise it could be that the X server is bombing out, in which case it should be leaving error messages for you. Cheers, Gian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan White" <moele(a)paradise.net.nz> To: <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Sent: Saturday, July 13, 2002 8:02 AM Subject: [wlug] installing Mandrake > I am trying to install Mandrake 8.0 onto a Toshiba Satellite 4000 cds laptop computer and am having a little trouble. > I have it working but it only seems to be installed as text. Somebody told me yesterday that this > particular laptop may not be compatible with linux. > I have it dual booting with windows 98 on a 233 pentium 2 processor with 64mb ram. > It has a Chips & Technologies 65555 PCI [Display adapter] > Can anyone tell me if I should be able to install Linux on it and how do I make Mandrake install > something that looks similar to windows. > Thank you, Allan White

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Re: [wlug] The Waikato Wlug Wiki
by Paul MacDonald 27 Jun '02

27 Jun '02

weeee, this thing is cool. Does anyone know how to post text verbatim (to a wiki page)? i.e. tell the wiki to ignore formatting commands for the whole document? P. >From: Perry Lorier <perry(a)coders.net> >Reply-To: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >To: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >Subject: [wlug] The Waikato Wlug Wiki _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com

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Part-Time Work (Off-Topic)
by Sahil Gupta - Net4U Limited 26 Jun '02

26 Jun '02

Hello there, Apologies for the Off-topic Post but, I thought I might place this post to the list before I publically advertise this position in the newspapers. Net4U Limited is looking for a Part Time Staff at the moment. The person would be required to attend to helpdesk enquiries a typical ISP would encounter. A brief job description is as follows: The support staff will be required to run a helpdesk for Net4U from home (more information on how we intend to do this can be obtained by e-mailing me). The person should have knowledge of configuring Dialup/ADSL Connections on various operating systems. Linux knowledge is a bonus, however you won't need "hi-tech" skills. Knowledge on Frame/ATM Networks would also be an advantage. You don't have to be a 100% technical minded person, we can make you one in no time provided you are somebody who is trustworthy and keen to learn and work in a team environment of 3 other staff. Regards, Sahil Gupta Net4U Limited --------------------------------------------------------------------- Net4U Limited - New Zealands Premier Internet Service Provider -- Home of the new $24.95 Global Dialup / JetStart Service -- Visit http://www.net4u.co.nz for further information ---------------------------------------------------------------------

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Re: [wlug] administrivia
by James Spooner 26 Jun '02

26 Jun '02

I'm a fan of Reply-to Munging. ----- Original Message ----- From: Oliver Jones To: Mr. Daniel Lawson Cc: Waikato Linux Users Group Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:01 AM Subject: Re: [wlug] administrivia I'm not a fan of Reply-to munging. Even though I get caught out and don't press reply to all sometimes. But I don't really care either way. Later

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Library
by Sahil Gupta - Net4U Limited 24 Jun '02

24 Jun '02

Can we not request the Hamilton City Council / Waikato University to allot us some space that is for the members of the WLUG? --------------------------------------------------------------------- Net4U Limited - New Zealands Premier Internet Service Provider -- Home of the new $24.95 Global Dialup / JetStart Service -- Visit http://www.net4u.co.nz for further information --------------------------------------------------------------------- On 24 Jun 2002 colinp(a)list.waikato.ac.nz wrote: > <Pine.LNX.4.44.0206242315560.23291-100000(a)helium.element.meta.net.nz> > Mime-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2002 10:19:08 +1200 > From: "<s.yeates(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz>" <say1(a)goblin.cs.waikato.ac.nz> > Message-Id: <E17McAx-0007IQ-00(a)orc.cs.waikato.ac.nz> > X-BeenThere: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b2 > Precedence: bulk > Reply-To: s.yeates(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz > List-Id: wlug <wlug.list.waikato.ac.nz> > List-Post: <mailto:wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > List-Subscribe: <http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug>, > <mailto:wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz?subject=subscribe> > List-Unsubscribe: <http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug>, > <mailto:wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz?subject=unsubscribe> > List-Archive: <http://list.waikato.ac.nz/pipermail/wlug> > List-Help: <mailto:wlug-request(a)list.waikato.ac.nz?subject=help> > > > > 3) WLUG Library. > > > > We've noticed that DunLUG have a very extensive members-only library. This > > is a Good Idea (TM). Its probably not doable out of members subscriptions > > alone, so we need some form of sponsorship. This is perhaps the biggest > > incentive for people to pay their subs, so its a good one to chase up > > I'm on the committee of the ACM student chapter at Waikato and we've had a > great deal of success in getting things for our library (especially software > development kits from people like Apple and microsoft) by just by asking > companies. If you're looking for technical type books, use the something > like Barnes & Noble / Amazons Associates to raise money? > > stuart > > > -- stuart yeates <s.yeates(a)cs.waikato.ac.nz> aka `loam' > "To err is human--but it feels divine." -- Mae West > X-no-archive:yes > >

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Re: [wlug] Debian Apt Archive
by Glenn Ramsey 15 May '02

15 May '02

Hi Matt, You can do this with dpkg-scanpackages, and then you put a line like deb file:/path/to/.deb/files icantrememberwhatthisdoes/ in your /etc/apt/sources.list or something like that. Another (much better IMO) solution for the future is to use apt-proxy, it has some nice features for automatically keeping your archive dir clean. g Matt Brown wrote: > > Hi All, > > I have a package archive that apt has built on my debian box over a few > months of use etc, I am now installing a new machine and want it to use > those packages as a repository so I don't have to download all ~400MB > again over my 56k modem. > > I heard rumours about a tool that put these packages into a format the > apt/deselect would recognise and access from another computer - is this > true? Can anyone tell me how I might do this? > > Thanks > > Matt -- Glenn Ramsey <glenn(a)componic.com> 025 263 1932 http://www.componic.co.nz 07 868 3881

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Re: [wlug] Download copies of Red Hat Linux 7.3 on CD-ROMs (fwd)
by Gible Fog 08 May '02

08 May '02

At 11:30 8/05/02 +1200, you wrote: >Any suggestions on what can be done about stupid spammers from Wellington >giving Linux a bad name? www.spamcop.net :) ------------ WLUG - The Waikato Linux Users Group WWW: http://wlug.linuxcare.co.nz To unsubscribe, send an email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz with "unsubscribe wlug" in the body of the message.

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Download copies of Red Hat Linux 7.3 on CD-ROMs (fwd)
by Matthias Dallmeier 07 May '02

07 May '02

Any suggestions on what can be done about stupid spammers from Wellington giving Linux a bad name? -- Matthias

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Re: [wlug] WLUG meeting is tonight
by Daniel Lawson 21 Apr '02

21 Apr '02

> Today is 22/04/2002 > The WLUG meeting is tonight Where is it and who is talking? Daniel ------------ WLUG - The Waikato Linux Users Group WWW: http://wlug.linuxcare.co.nz To unsubscribe, send an email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz with "unsubscribe wlug" in the body of the message.

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Meeting suggestion
by Daniel Lawson 13 Apr '02

13 Apr '02

I think perry should give a talk on regex's. ------------ WLUG - The Waikato Linux Users Group WWW: http://wlug.linuxcare.co.nz To unsubscribe, send an email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz with "unsubscribe wlug" in the body of the message.

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Re: [wlug] ENQ?
by Gavin Denby 31 Mar '02

31 Mar '02

Yeah, we be about, but doing cool things like getting linux running nice on my ibm thinkpad 560X laptop. All i need to solve now is the soundcad and I hoe and hosed. Just used it to finish my monthly accounts, so I feeling doubaly happy right now. On Sun, 2002-03-31 at 18:45, GREGORY PAUL,HARRIS wrote: > Anyone still alive out there? > ------------ > WLUG - The Waikato Linux Users Group > WWW: http://wlug.linuxcare.co.nz > To unsubscribe, send an email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > with "unsubscribe wlug" in the body of the message. > ------------ WLUG - The Waikato Linux Users Group WWW: http://wlug.linuxcare.co.nz To unsubscribe, send an email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz with "unsubscribe wlug" in the body of the message.

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Re: [wlug] ENQ?
by Sahil Gupta - Net4U Limited 31 Mar '02

31 Mar '02

Everyone is me thinkz. On Sun, 31 Mar 2002, GREGORY PAUL,HARRIS wrote: > Anyone still alive out there? > ------------ > WLUG - The Waikato Linux Users Group > WWW: http://wlug.linuxcare.co.nz > To unsubscribe, send an email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > with "unsubscribe wlug" in the body of the message. > ------------ WLUG - The Waikato Linux Users Group WWW: http://wlug.linuxcare.co.nz To unsubscribe, send an email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz with "unsubscribe wlug" in the body of the message.

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text book
by Dave Smylie 04 Mar '02

04 Mar '02

Hi Guys knowing that a few of you have done/are doing a comp sci degree at uni, does anyone have a copy of this books that they would be willing to sell/lend/hire/give me? Stuart Russell, Peter Norvig, Artificial Intelligence: A Modern Approach, Prentice Hall, 1995 Cheers Dave ------------ WLUG - The Waikato Linux Users Group WWW: http://wlug.linuxcare.co.nz To unsubscribe, send an email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz with "unsubscribe wlug" in the body of the message.

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Re: Linmodems
by David Anderson 16 Feb '02

16 Feb '02

I had real problems setting up a LinModem in my laptop under linux, but end the end got it to work... i wrote every thing down that i had to do to get my modem to work and put it here.. http://jove.prohosting.com/~techinfo/ltmodem/ It may not be exactly the correct setup for you, but it might give you some ideas of what to do... but find the the latest drivers before you start... Dave ------------ WLUG - The Waikato Linux Users Group WWW: http://wlug.linuxcare.co.nz To unsubscribe, send an email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz with "unsubscribe wlug" in the body of the message.

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Re: [wlug] x2x Configuration
by Rudi Prinsloo 08 Feb '02

08 Feb '02

Hi, Well the server I'm talking about is in South Africa. Needless to say that bandwith is as expensive (or more) as gold down there. The mail server belongs to an ISP I used to work for. It serves more than 40 000 customers on a 5mb pipe(local)! The international pipe is even smaller! Get the picture? ;) ciao RP >From: Martin Baehr <mbaehr(a)email.archlab.tuwien.ac.at> >Reply-To: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >To: Rudi Prinsloo <rudiprinsloo(a)hotmail.com> >CC: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >Subject: Re: [wlug] x2x Configuration >Date: Thu, 7 Feb 2002 18:41:29 +0100 > >On Wed, Feb 06, 2002 at 02:17:11PM +1300, Rudi Prinsloo wrote: > > Sorry about that, but I dont have another mail account yet except one >whose > > mail server is 12000km away and therefore too slow. > >huh? >i never stopped using my mailaccaunt in austria, >be it from the US, new zealand, japan, korea... >besides, hotmail is in the US which is not that close either... > >greetings, martin. >-- >i am looking for a job anywhere in the world, doing pike programming, >caudium/pike/roxen training, roxen/caudium and/or unix system >administration. >-- >pike programmer Traveling in Korea >(www|db).hb2.tuwien.ac.at >unix (iaeste|bahai).or.at >(www.archlab|iaeste).tuwien.ac.at >systemadministrator (stuts|black.linux-m68k).org mud.at >is.(schon.org|root.at) >Martin B"ahr http://www.iaeste.or.at/~mbaehr/ >------------ >WLUG - The Waikato Linux Users Group >WWW: http://wlug.linuxcare.co.nz >To unsubscribe, send an email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >with "unsubscribe wlug" in the body of the message. Kind Regards Rudi Prinsloo _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------ WLUG - The Waikato Linux Users Group WWW: http://wlug.linuxcare.co.nz To unsubscribe, send an email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz with "unsubscribe wlug" in the body of the message.

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Re: [wlug] delay clearing of a pop account.
by Martin Baehr 05 Feb '02

05 Feb '02

On Tue, Feb 05, 2002 at 08:05:16PM +1300, Gavin Denby wrote: > Care to point me to a suitable IMAP howto, I can get mail with > fetchmail, but then i will have to set up the rest, and all the rules > for what mail goes where and to whom. My last attempt to get IMAP rnning > was a complete disaster. using fetchmail would defeat the point of using an imap-server. if i read you correctly, your pop accounts are from your provider. thus in order to replace pop, your provider would have to give you imap access instead, which then you would access with an imap client. however i assume you want all the mail copied to your local machine, and work on it offline. for this imap does not help. and you certainly do not need an imap-server on your local machine. greetings, martin. -- i am looking for a job anywhere in the world, doing pike programming, caudium/pike/roxen training, roxen/caudium and/or unix system administration. -- pike programmer Traveling in Korea (www|db).hb2.tuwien.ac.at unix (iaeste|bahai).or.at (www.archlab|iaeste).tuwien.ac.at systemadministrator (stuts|black.linux-m68k).org mud.at is.(schon.org|root.at) Martin B"ahr http://www.iaeste.or.at/~mbaehr/ ------------ WLUG - The Waikato Linux Users Group WWW: http://wlug.linuxcare.co.nz To unsubscribe, send an email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz with "unsubscribe wlug" in the body of the message.

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Dynamic DNS Service
by Aaron Martin 23 Jan '02

23 Jan '02

As some of you know, I am planning to start a Dynamic DNS service of my own, which will allow people to host real world (i.e. .co.nz) domains on their dynamic ip connections. This is not really aimed at dial-up users, but more at *cough* broadband 'always on' connections (i.e. JetStart). Most of the scripts are complete, and my tests so far have gone well. However, I would like to start a trial with a few people soon. So if you are interested, please fill in the form at the following link, and I will select a few people in the next week to begin the trial. http://www.comtek.co.nz/dyndns/ Cheers, Aaron Martin.

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Re: [wlug] Software/Email as a Good.
by John R. McPherson 23 Jan '02

23 Jan '02

On Wed, Jan 23, 2002 at 10:48:37PM +1300, Gavin Denby wrote: > > I know this sounds silly, but I got hit with this some years ago when I > sold/Made a headset for a cellphone for a cyclist. I gave Clear warnings > on the dangers of using it while riding, Needless to say he ignored > them, had a crash, We got the blame for him using it while riding as we > did not warn him that his hearing could be impared if he wore it while > not actually talking on the phone, but wearing it just in case he got a > phone call. > > It was the last one we ever made. Heh, completely off-topic, but reminds me of something (possibly an urban legend) that to poke some fun at the warnings required on labels, Husqvarna put out a chainsaw with a warning label "warning - chain is sharp. Do not stop with hands or genitals". Or the lady in the states who tried to sue a pharmaceutical because after eating spermicide and then having intercourse, she got pregnant. How obvious do things have to be? The Consumer Guarantee Act uses the word "reasonable" a lot, leaving it up to the judge or jury to decide what is reasonable. I think juries (and judges) could have a lot of difficulty if some obscure technical problem occurred - would you expect to explain how BGP routing works? On the other hand, Telecom advertises Jetstart as "up to 5 times faster than a dial-up modem", but Jetstart (with xtra at least) appears to be massively over-subscribed, although I haven't noticed that much of a slow-down on the Ham. East exchange. But you should see the bitching in xtra.adsl about peak-time slowdowns. John McPherson ------------ WLUG - The Waikato Linux Users Group WWW: http://wlug.linuxcare.co.nz To unsubscribe, send an email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz with "unsubscribe wlug" in the body of the message.

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Linux CD's
by listwlug＠comtek.co.nz 10 Jan '02

10 Jan '02

Ok, I have a 128k and a 256k connection at my disposal, and a cd-writer. If anyone wants linux cd's (or any other LEGAL cd's) downloaded and burned off, I think a fair price would be $5/cd? Plus postage if required outside Hamilton? Let me know your thoughts / orders! Aaron Martin Comtek Computing Solutions Ltd. ------------ WLUG - The Waikato Linux Users Group WWW: http://wlug.linuxcare.co.nz To unsubscribe, send an email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz with "unsubscribe wlug" in the body of the message.

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Re: [wlug] Cron tasks
by Gavin Denby 28 Dec '01

28 Dec '01

ok, suppose to clean the log I simply add with crontab -e the line 00 02 * * * mv /var/log/mylogname /var/log/mylogbakup will this do the job of giving me a clean mylogname (the program creates it if its missing just fine) as when I type this at console I am asked if I wish to overwrite the file, will i need to add a "do it no matter what" type of parameter to the mv or will it work without it? > > > In short, the easiest thing for you to do, if you want your script run > daily, is to drop it in /etc/cron.daily. if it needs custom runtimes, put > them in /etc/cron.d/ in a crontab file. > > > help? YES !!!!! :-) ------------ WLUG - The Waikato Linux Users Group WWW: http://wlug.linuxcare.co.nz To unsubscribe, send an email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz with "unsubscribe wlug" in the body of the message.

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Re: [wlug] Cron tasks
by Gavin Denby 28 Dec '01

28 Dec '01

Only posted there, as the mailer gave me an error when I sent this, and I wasn't sure it went out to the list, I still intend to figure this cron thing out, as well as logrotate......... And another old 486 comes back to life :-) at least I know now that the posting worked, I guess i'll see if i still get the error message this time too. Daniel Lawson wrote: > > from reading your other post to nzlug, i'd suggest that logrotate is what > you want :) ------------ WLUG - The Waikato Linux Users Group WWW: http://wlug.linuxcare.co.nz To unsubscribe, send an email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz with "unsubscribe wlug" in the body of the message.

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Re: [wlug] silly laptops
by David Anderson 09 Dec '01

09 Dec '01

This can also be caused by having the wrong settings for CHS, or if there is HD management software on the HD, seagate and connor drives had one that could make the HD bigger than what could be read by some of the fdisk programs.. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kyle Carter" <kylecarter(a)xtra.co.nz> To: <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 7:41 PM Subject: Re: [wlug] silly laptops > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Greig McGill" <greig(a)win.co.nz> > To: <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2001 6:30 PM > Subject: Re: [wlug] silly laptops > > > > > looks like its written.. however reboot it or continue on.. and the old > > > partitions are still there... real strange.. > > > > > > no useful options in the bios for virus MBR protection etc.. > > > > > > any ideas? > > > > > > Had this problem twice before. > > Once was a dead controller - hope that's not it! > > The second was just a screwy partition table - low-level format fixed it. > > Ive tried 2 hard drives, 2 laptops (i got given 2 ;-) ) > both are identical.. but i have changed the ram to give 1 8MB ram, and the > other 16 MB ram > > however i get the same error.. have enough ram in there to do it.. > im wondering if its something to do with the hard drive controller. > or the bios.. > > im just rawriting the parted disk.. im pretty sure once i get the partitions > set up the thing will work fine. > > > > > ------------ > WLUG - The Waikato Linux Users Group > WWW: http://wlug.linuxcare.co.nz > To unsubscribe, send an email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > with "unsubscribe wlug" in the body of the message. ------------ WLUG - The Waikato Linux Users Group WWW: http://wlug.linuxcare.co.nz To unsubscribe, send an email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz with "unsubscribe wlug" in the body of the message.

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Re: [wlug] Wireless in Hillcrest
by Sahil Gupta - NET4U 18 Nov '01

18 Nov '01

FTP transferring an ISO Image. Regards, Sahil Gupta NET4U Limited ------------------------------------ NET4U -- www.net4u.co.nz Home of the new - $24.95 128k ADSL Nationwide Internet Service Provider ------------------------------------ On Sun, 18 Nov 2001, Perry Lorier wrote: > On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 02:36:11PM +0000, Sahil Gupta - NET4U wrote: > > Hills 19db Grids :) > > Transfer Speed x 8. > > > > What did you use? FTP? tFTP? Samba? > > How did the Waikato Uni people do? > > -- > Tempt not a desperate man. -- William Shakespeare, "Romeo and Juliet" > ------------ > WLUG - The Waikato Linux Users Group > WWW: http://wlug.linuxcare.co.nz > To unsubscribe, send an email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > with "unsubscribe wlug" in the body of the message. > ------------ WLUG - The Waikato Linux Users Group WWW: http://wlug.linuxcare.co.nz To unsubscribe, send an email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz with "unsubscribe wlug" in the body of the message.

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Re: [wlug] Wireless in Hillcrest
by James Spooner 18 Nov '01

18 Nov '01

We got a 13.5Km link up on wednesday, single TCP session throughput of ~2Mbit, with < 1% packet loss. SNR was 16/17dB each way. Regards James ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ James Spooner Enrolled BCMS University of Waikato NZ Networking & Linux/BSD WWW: http://www.spoons.gen.nz Phone: +64 7 856 9440 / +64 21 447 638 Email: james(a)spoons.gen.nz ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ On Sun, 18 Nov 2001, Perry Lorier wrote: > On Sun, Nov 18, 2001 at 02:36:11PM +0000, Sahil Gupta - NET4U wrote: > > Hills 19db Grids :) > > Transfer Speed x 8. > > > > What did you use? FTP? tFTP? Samba? > > How did the Waikato Uni people do? > > -- > Tempt not a desperate man. -- William Shakespeare, "Romeo and Juliet" > ------------ > WLUG - The Waikato Linux Users Group > WWW: http://wlug.linuxcare.co.nz > To unsubscribe, send an email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > with "unsubscribe wlug" in the body of the message. > > > ------------ WLUG - The Waikato Linux Users Group WWW: http://wlug.linuxcare.co.nz To unsubscribe, send an email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz with "unsubscribe wlug" in the body of the message.

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Re: [wlug] Wireless Internet Services in Hillcrest
by Sahil Gupta - NET4U 10 Nov '01

10 Nov '01

I must ALSO say, that in the last 2 hours we have confirmed a location for trialing this service. By the end of this month, we shall be there with a definate answer on the reliability and quality of these connections. We would welcome people to come along and take a look at it themselves, before they actually go ahead with it. Also, we would be MORE than happy to colocate a server of this list free of charge. Community Servers and Mirrors would be encouraged, as we will be having heaps of spare, national bandwith. International will be slightly tight on initially but, as it all grows we won't have problems. Quite honestly, at something like $100+GST p/mth the deal is very very good. Regards, Sahil Gupta NET4U Limited ------------------------------------ NET4U -- www.net4u.co.nz Home of the new - $24.95 128k ADSL Nationwide Internet Service Provider ------------------------------------ On Sat, 10 Nov 2001, James Spooner wrote: > > Sahil I find your apparant business practises unprofessional, these posts > border on spam. > > > The pricing brackets are fairly simple. I'm willing to test this out now, > > using a JetStart Connection. If anyone would like to volunteer to pay > > around $1500+GST we will set them up on a 11 Meg Connection, sharing > > JetStart. However, the volunteer will : > > Sahil, this is not a volunteer this is an *investor*. Investor != > Customer. > > > > > > a) Not have to pay for data whilst its on a JetStart Connection > > b) Not have to ay for data for the first 2 months when a Frame Relay is > > there. > > So someone buys your radio gear for you *and* pays for the jetstart, and > you don't charge them? Gee you're a nice bastard. > > Does the person get the $1500 back, or do they get ownership of all the > gear they bought? > > > > > Our charges will be quite simple. We will charge $100+GST per 2gb > > Incoming and 2gb Outgoing. We will ONLY bill by the gig and WILL NOT: > > > > a) Bill by the meg > > b) Bill per 64k (unless it is a significant amount of 64k channels) > > > > So if I transfer 2.0001 GB (I hope you're using 1024*1024*1024 bytes) > > then you will charge me $200+gst ? > > I don't think so! > > > I'm thinking this service will be of good quality. We should have > > anywhere upto 3 locations (which are fairly close by eachother) running as > > POPs. But, the service will definately be of a GOOD QUALITY. > > > > Please tell me GOOD QUALITY doesn't mean 20 people with a 512k cap sharing > a frame relay with a 2Mbit bearer and a 1Mbit CIR. > > > > The good side of this service is that we will be able to supply Static > > (REAL WORLD) I.P. Addresses on the Wireless Link. The client would have > > to JUSTIFY them ofcourse. But, most of the time, we will give a SubNet of > > 8. > > > > We don't exactly care as to what you do with the Wireless Link, as long as > > your bill is paid up on time. > > > Do I want to be on an ISP that happily hosts spammers? > > > > James Spooner > > > > ------------ > WLUG - The Waikato Linux Users Group > WWW: http://wlug.linuxcare.co.nz > To unsubscribe, send an email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > with "unsubscribe wlug" in the body of the message. > ------------ WLUG - The Waikato Linux Users Group WWW: http://wlug.linuxcare.co.nz To unsubscribe, send an email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz with "unsubscribe wlug" in the body of the message.

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Re: [wlug] Next meeting
by Gavin Denby 25 Oct '01

25 Oct '01

Actually types of shares takes some getting used to you know user Vs share Vs server Vs Domain based permissions and when each would be used ..... and then there's that encrypted password issue, and Swat (running it, and where does it reside, need to be running ... etc.) Daniel Lawson wrote: > Well, i'm doing the presentation etc next Monday, on linux-windows > connectivity. > > Is there anything in particular people would like to see? > > File sharing windows <-> linux > printer sharing windows <-> linux > > and a demo / intro, if anyone present doesn't already know how, of > application 'sharing' linux -> windows. > > Daniel > > > ------------ > WLUG - The Waikato Linux Users Group > WWW: http://wlug.linuxcare.co.nz > To unsubscribe, send an email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > with "unsubscribe wlug" in the body of the message. > > > ------------ WLUG - The Waikato Linux Users Group WWW: http://wlug.linuxcare.co.nz To unsubscribe, send an email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz with "unsubscribe wlug" in the body of the message.

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Re: [wlug] Next meeting
by Oliver Jones 25 Oct '01

25 Oct '01

You can get NFS to work if you have the right software. There is 3rd party stuff and MS stuff. Not that it comes with Win2k by default. The easiest way to do filesharing from a Linux/Unix box to Windows machines is via Samba. Why you'ld even consider NFS is beyond me. Later Greig McGill wrote: >Is NFS available for Win32 platforms? > >BTW - not wanting to even THINK about starting a flame war, but what are >these "certain constraints"? >If we don't know, we can't help! :) > >Greig McGill, RHCE >Systems Engineer, Compel Automation Ltd. >Ph. +64 7 838 3747 Fax. +64 7 838 3737 >Network Engineer - Linux solutions specialist. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Michael Cree" <cree(a)phys.waikato.ac.nz> >To: <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> >Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 4:22 PM >Subject: Re: [wlug] Next meeting > > >>Daniel Lawson writes: >> >> > Is there anything in particular people would like to see? >> > >> > File sharing windows <-> linux >> > printer sharing windows <-> linux >> >>What about NFS exports from Windoze machine? Particulary one that can map >>usernames on the Unix side (via a NIS server) to Windoze users on a >> >Windoze > >>domain controller and properly preserver permissions on both Unix and >>Windoze sides. >> >>And no doubt I'll get swamped with responses saying use Samba. I should >>point out that I consider Samba to be a very much less than ideal solution >>due to certain constraints it has. I would much prefer to avoid that >>route. Actually (and I hope he's not reading this list) I wish our >> >Windoze > >>sys admin would install a decent OS on the rather nice server with raid >>array he got for us. Too bad he crippled it with Microsloth. >> >>Anyone tried Unix Service for Windoze on a Windoze machine? How do you >> >get > >>it to work if you don't have access to the primary domain controller? >> >>Cheers >>Michael >>------------ >>WLUG - The Waikato Linux Users Group >>WWW: http://wlug.linuxcare.co.nz >>To unsubscribe, send an email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >>with "unsubscribe wlug" in the body of the message. >> > >------------ >WLUG - The Waikato Linux Users Group >WWW: http://wlug.linuxcare.co.nz >To unsubscribe, send an email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >with "unsubscribe wlug" in the body of the message. > -- Oliver Jones - oliver(a)deeper.co.nz - Mobile: +64-21-41-2238 - Deeper Design Limited - http://www.deeperdesign.com

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Re: [wlug] Next meeting
by Daniel Lawson 25 Oct '01

25 Oct '01

> What about NFS exports from Windoze machine? Particulary one that can map > usernames on the Unix side (via a NIS server) to Windoze users on a Windoze > domain controller and properly preserver permissions on both Unix and > Windoze sides. I've not used NFS from win32 - i considered using an NFS client under windows once, but definately not exporting from a windows box. So, unless I magically discover another day between sunday and monday, I cant help too much :/ The name mapping might be eaier to arrange, as there are plenty of equivalent services. Mainly aimed at mapping NTDOM names to unix names. Samba TNG has a winbind daemon which is supposed to do this, IIRC. My demo's will have a LDAP directory rather than NIS, btw. daniel ------------ WLUG - The Waikato Linux Users Group WWW: http://wlug.linuxcare.co.nz To unsubscribe, send an email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz with "unsubscribe wlug" in the body of the message.

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Open Letter to Parliament on Open Source Software
by Oliver Jones 03 Oct '01

03 Oct '01

http://www.openz.org/ -- Oliver Jones - oliver(a)deeper.co.nz - Mobile: +64-21-41-2238 - Deeper Design Limited - http://www.deeperdesign.com

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raw disks
by Arne Pallentin 20 Sep '01

20 Sep '01

hi everyone, I just tried to use a dual boot W2K installation via vmware from my SuSE 7.2 box. Problem: I do not have access to the dev (hde), and including me into user-group "disk" as advised by vmware does not work. Does someone know how I can set write access for that hd?? Thanks, Arne -- Arne Pallentin, Dipl.-Geol. Dept. of Earth Sciences - UoW Hamilton New Zealand ------------ WLUG - The Waikato Linux Users Group WWW: http://wlug.linuxcare.co.nz To unsubscribe, send an email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz with "unsubscribe wlug" in the body of the message.

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Re: [wlug] CD reader/writers
by Oliver Jones 13 Sep '01

13 Sep '01

Which incidentally is how Windows does it as well. It is just a little harder to notice. :) Windows uses ASPI which is a SCSI API. The IDE devices have IDE->SCSI/ASPI support in their drivers. Later Chris Martin wrote: >You need to enable SCSI emulation, it's an option in the kernel. >Beyond that I'm not sure, I haven't set up an IDE burner in Linux >(mine is SCSI), but you need to fool it into thinking your IDE burner >is a SCSI device. > >>Yo people >> >>I'm having problems getting a CD reader/writer going properly on my Linux >>installation. Wondering if some bright spark can give some illumination on >>the problem? >> >>System: Suse 7.2, kde 2.2 on an AMD processor based system. >>CD-Reader/Writer: Goldstar IDE CD-reader/writer >> >>The CD reader/writer is on the slave port of the primary IDE >>controller. Note that it is IDE and not SCSI. >> >>What works: >> >>1) I can mount an ISO9960 CD and read it fine. >> >>What doesn't work: >> >>1) Can't write ISO image to CD. I try to use cdrecorder and it wants a >> device specification. I don't know what on earth to tell it. The manual >> is no help - it is all geered towards a SCSI CD-writer. Can someone tell >> me what I should be telling it for a device? >> >>2) Can't play music CDs. I run KDE's CDplayer program and it can start >> reading the music CD OK, and says its playing but no sound is comes out >> whatsoever. >> >> Maybe worth noting that KDE on startup (ie login) reports it can't find >> the /dev/dsp device and says it will use the null sound device >> instead. However all its own little jingles, bells, whatnots are sounded >> OK. I hear them. Just not the CD. >> >> The appropriate wire connecting the CD reader to the sound board is >> attached. >> >> Don't have any clue what the sound board is - it's on the motherboard. >> >>Any suggestions? >> >>Cheers >>Michael >> >>---------------------------------------------------------------------- >>Dr Michael Cree Email: cree(a)phys.waikato.ac.nz >>Lecturer >>Dept. Physics and Elec. Eng. >>University of Waikato >>Private Bag 3105 Fax: +64-7-8384219 >>Hamilton Telephone: +64-7-8384301 >>New Zealand >>------------ >>WLUG - The Waikato Linux Users Group >>WWW: http://wlug.linuxcare.co.nz >>To unsubscribe, send an email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >>with "unsubscribe wlug" in the body of the message. >> > > >------------ >WLUG - The Waikato Linux Users Group >WWW: http://wlug.linuxcare.co.nz >To unsubscribe, send an email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz >with "unsubscribe wlug" in the body of the message. > -- Oliver Jones - oliver(a)deeper.co.nz - Mobile: +64-21-41-2238 - Deeper Design Limited - http://www.deeperdesign.com

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Re: [wlug] CD reader/writers
by Matthias Dallmeier 13 Sep '01

13 Sep '01

On Thu, 13 Sep 2001, Michael Cree wrote: > Any suggestions? Read the CD-Writing HOWTO. Basically, you want to set it up to pretend to be a SCSI device. -- Matthias ------------ WLUG - The Waikato Linux Users Group WWW: http://wlug.linuxcare.co.nz To unsubscribe, send an email to majordomo(a)list.waikato.ac.nz with "unsubscribe wlug" in the body of the message.

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