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W00t. 2.6.0 final release.
by Oliver Jones 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

The wait is finally over. :) -- Oliver Jones » Director » oliver.jones(a)deeperdesign.com » +64 (21) 41 2238 Deeper Design Limited » +64 (7) 377 3328 » www.deeperdesign.com

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ATI Graphics cards.
by Oliver Jones 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

Hi. Anyone here use new ATI Radeon graphics cards under Linux? I'm looking at buying a new mid range graphics card. Ie, either an nVidia 5700 Ultra or ATI Radeon 9600XT. The supplier I'm looking at is out of stock on the nVidia cards. So I'm considering an ATI. I've never used an ATI video card. I moved from Voodoo's to nVidia way back when Quake 3 came out. In particular I'm interested to know if dual display and TV out works with ATI video cards under Linux. I'm pretty sure this works with nVidia boards under Linux. Anyone here doing things like that on an ATI? Regards -- Oliver Jones » Director » oliver.jones(a)deeperdesign.com » +64 (21) 41 2238 Deeper Design Limited » +64 (7) 377 3328 » www.deeperdesign.com

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ATI...
by Oliver Jones 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

Thanks for all your info guys. I think I've decided to go with an nVidia 5700 solution even though they arn't as fast as the Radeon 9600XT series. I've found another supplier who has them in stock. Regards -- Oliver Jones » Director » oliver.jones(a)deeperdesign.com » +64 (21) 41 2238 Deeper Design Limited » +64 (7) 377 3328 » www.deeperdesign.com

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Christmas BBQ -- Tonight
by Daniel Lawson 16 Dec '03

16 Dec '03

So, the weather looks good today. It seems we made the right decision in postponing this till tonight. Christmas BBQ is Tonight, Wednesday 17th December. Start at about 6 pm. 3 Liston Crescent, Hillcrest, Hamilton. BYO meat and drink. Some Salads, bread and softdrink will be provided. There is a map on the wiki at http://www.wlug.org.nz/DaHoose See you tonight Daniel

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Jpegs a security risk?
by Oliver Jones 15 Dec '03

15 Dec '03

A while back M$ produced a host fix for IE/OE that deems JPEG files a security risk and stops users from opening or displaying them. Is this a problem that exists for all attached images or is it just images sent from Linux mail clients? I only use Evolution for email so I'm not sure how to works between OE and OE. Anyone else seen this sort of errant behaviour from OE? Regards -- Oliver Jones » Director » oliver.jones(a)deeperdesign.com » +64 (21) 41 2238 Deeper Design Limited » +64 (7) 377 3328 » www.deeperdesign.com

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fedora core
by Stephen Pearce 15 Dec '03

15 Dec '03

Hi Has anyone got the 6 disk version of this that they would be prepared to send to me for media and psotage cost please (3 iso binary images and 3 iso srpm images) Thanks Stephen

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BBQ Postponed
by Jamie Curtis 14 Dec '03

14 Dec '03

Hi there, Due to the unpredictability of the weather out there today, we have decided that it is best to postpone the Xmas BBQ until a day where we have a bit more faith in the weather holding up. So, our revised plan is 6pm, Wednesday 17th. Same deal applies, BYO meat and drink, some salads, bread and softdrink provided. Location still at 3 Liston Crescent. Fingers crossed the weather will be fine ! Hope to see you all there, Cheers, Jamie

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Audio Recording
by Daniel Lawson 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

As part of a holiday project, I was going to transfer soem vinyls I have to CD. Has anyone done anything like this, and have any preferred tools? Recording the audio isn't really a problem. What I would like some recommendations on are tools which will remove at least some of the record hiss. I know I wont get it all, but i should be able to remove a fair bit. I'll also need to split the vinyls up into tracks, so a wav editor would be a good start. I seem to remember a linux journal article on this recently, so I'm looking through the archives, but if anyone has any recommendations / experiences they wish to share, it would be good :) Thanks, Daniel

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hardware
by David Nicholls 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

hi guys, im looking to get my hands on a PII bix (or higher) as cheaply as possible to replacement for my awful sounding linux router/webserver. anyone got anything that might be of interest? cheers & thanks... David Nicholls Computer Support Consultant School of Science & Technology/Dept of Chemistry The University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

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WLUG Christmas BBQ
by Daniel Lawson 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

Hey folks, sorry for the late notice. Busy time of year :) WLUG Christmas BBQ: Where: 3 Liston Cres, Hillcrest (we'll put a map on the wiki soon) When: 4pm onwards, Sunday 14 December BBQ starts at 6 or so. BYO meat and drinks. Some salad, bread and softdrink will be provided. If its raining, we don't really have room to have this inside or in the garage. We'll post a confirmation email to the list on the day as to whether its going ahead or not. Please check your email on the day!

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chat/pppd dropping DTR
by Jonathan Purvis 09 Dec '03

09 Dec '03

Hello, I have a problem with chat and/or pppd. Run via "pon" on Debian 3.0, pppd dials ok and then hangs up just after making the connection. If i change the authentication from PAP to Chat, then it hangs up after logging in. If i dial up with minicom, login manually and then run "pppd /dev/modem noauth defaultroute", everything is fine. This suggests that the hangup is occuring during the handover from chat to pppd. Swapping the Dynalink 56k modem i was using for my trusty battery powered 14k4 which has the DTR line control the power revealed that pppd was dropping the DTR line, causing the modem to hang up. So how do i stop it doing this? Setting the "local" option on pppd (instead of "modem") had no effect (other than it not noticing the modem had hung up), nor did playing with the "close_delay" option of setserial. The serial ports on this machine come from a Dolphin twin serial PCI card (currently on clearance for $10 at DSE), if anyone is familar with them. Thanks, Jon

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Trying to decifer sendmail logs....
by Oliver Jones 09 Dec '03

09 Dec '03

Lately I've noticed I've been getting a lot of these in my maillog: Losing ./qfhB7AvXZ20553: savemail panic SYSERR(root): savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere Sendmail mail logs make little sense to me.... Here is an example: hB438B623222: to=oliver(a)deeper.co.nz, delay=3+07:49:20, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=cyrus, pri=121146, relay=localhost, dsn=5.6.0, stat=Service unavailable hB438B623222: hB7AvXZ20553: DSN: Service unavailable hB7AvXZ20553: to=<jimmiegodwinan(a)yahoo.com>, delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=30985, relay=mx1.mail.yahoo.com. [64.157.4.78], dsn=5.0.0, stat=Service unavailable hB7AvXZ20553: hB7AvXa20553: return to sender: Service unavailable hB7AvXa20553: to=postmaster, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=cyrus, pri=31085, relay=localhost [[UNIX: /var/imap/socket/lmtp]], dsn=5.6.0, stat=Service unavailable hB7AvXZ20553: Losing ./qfhB7AvXZ20553: savemail panic hB7AvXZ20553: SYSERR(root): savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere >From what I can tell it all looks like spam bounces that are getting bounced back and then getting lost for some reason. Or something. It is just concerning me that maybe I'm loosing legitimate mail. I doubt this but it is a worry. I did a search on the web for error messages like this and they indicated that I might not have a postmaster alias setup. Well I don't. I have a "postmaster" mail account setup in cyrus so that spam bounces didn't fill up my personal mailbox. I get enough spam as it is. Which is why stuff like "to=postmaster, ... mailer=cyrus, ... stat=Service unavailable" worries me. If someone can help me identify what the fsck is wrong (if anything) and make those worrisome message go away I'd be most grateful (ie gifts would be dolled out). Regards -- Oliver Jones <oliver(a)deeper.co.nz> Deeper Design Limited

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Software Patents (What's going on in EEC)
by Lindsay Druett 02 Dec '03

02 Dec '03

http://cord.de/tools/squid/calamaris/ http://swpat.ffii.org/index.en.html _____ Lindsay Druett CCNP CCDP NZTC (Elect) Network Engineer Network Administration and Development ITS Network Infrastructure The University of Waikato Private Bag 3105 Hamilton, New Zealand Telephone 64-7-838 4999 Mobile 027-276 0700 lindsayd(a)waikato.ac.nz http://www.waikato.ac.nz <http://www.waikato.ac.nz/> AS/NZS 3000:2000 : The official guide to playing Aussie Rules. www.230.volts.ac.nz <http://www.230.volts.ac.nz/>

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DSA-403-1
by Kim Shepherd 01 Dec '03

01 Dec '03

This e-mail of Greig's was auto-discarded... Luckily I get a copy of all discarded messages, so here it is: (another reminder -- remember the address you subscribed with, or subscribe them all!) ----begin-forward---- For those using custom kernels...update! :) -----Original Message----- From: debian-security-announce(a)lists.debian.org [mailto:debian-security-announce(a)lists.debian.org] Sent: Tuesday, 2 December 2003 9:17 a.m. To: full-disclosure(a)lists.netsys.com Subject: [Full-Disclosure] [SECURITY] [DSA-403-1] userland can access Linux kernel memory -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Debian Security Advisory DSA-403-1 security(a)debian.org http://www.debian.org/security/ Wichert Akkerman December 1, 2003 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Package : kernel-image-2.4.18-1-alpha, kernel-image-2.4.18-1-i386, kernel-source-2.4.18 Vulnerability : userland can access full kernel memory Problem type : local Debian-specific: no CVE Id(s) : CAN-2003-0961 Recently multiple servers of the Debian project were compromised using a Debian developers account and an unknown root exploit. Forensics revealed a burneye encrypted exploit. Robert van der Meulen managed to decrypt the binary which revealed a kernel exploit. Study of the exploit by the RedHat and SuSE kernel and security teams quickly revealed that the exploit used an integer overflow in the brk system call. Using this bug it is possible for a userland program to trick the kernel into giving access to the full kernel address space. This problem was found in September by Andrew Morton, but unfortunately that was too late for the 2.4.22 kernel release. This bug has been fixed in kernel version 2.4.23 for the 2.4 tree and 2.6.0-test6 kernel tree. For Debian it has been fixed in version 2.4.18-12 of the kernel source packages, version 2.4.18-14 of the i386 kernel images and version 2.4.18-11 of the alpha kernel images. Upgrade instructions - -------------------- wget url will fetch the file for you dpkg -i file.deb will install the referenced file. 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43c7a34c6428e7d79fb660b4a434aaae http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/k/kernel-image-2.4.18-1-i386/ke rnel-image-2.4.18-1-686_2.4.18-12_i386.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 8703034 a6d0829412575a9f7e6c227c5275a47b - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Debian Security team <team(a)security.debian.org> http://www.debian.org/security/ Mailing-List: debian-security-announce(a)lists.debian.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/y6HGPLiSUC+jvC0RAnd9AKCKvn969KiqvmErdGNv1iJSgzTVxwCbBkWB IZdDr8fKKloX6PSe+tPOW68= =nGzM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html -- Kim Shepherd Systems Operator/Administrator ITS Systems & Development The University of Waikato, NZ DDI: +64-7-838-4681 Mob: +64-27-240-8682 Mail: kims(a)waikato.ac.nz

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Environment Variable Not Appearing in New Shell
by Roger 01 Dec '03

01 Dec '03

Hi, I am running Red Hat 7, kernel 2.4.9. I am using KDE. I believe I am using the bash shell. Recently I have set up a couple of extra environment variables in the /etc/profile file. They all seem to work fine except the one called LD_LIBRARY_PATH. When I login from the initial login screen and subsequently start a shell the variable is available in that environment. However, if from that shell I then type "su" and become root, the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable is not available in the new environment, but all the other environment variables appear to be. If I then logout completely and login as root from the initial screen and start a shell then again the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable is available there. Here is a snippet of the /etc/profile file: # Define the Optimizeit home directory. OPTIMIZEIT_HOME=/home/Roger02/OptimizeitSuite export OPTIMIZEIT_HOME # Set up the library path for Optimizeit LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$OPTIMIZEIT_HOME/lib export LD_LIBRARY_PATH Can anyone please tell me why the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable is not universally available? Is LD_LIBRARY_PATH a reserved variable that requires some extra configuration to make it universally available? Or have I just done something silly? Note OPTIMIZEIT_HOME was a new variable at the same time as LD_LIBRARY_PATH and is available in all shells that I have tried. I have also tried logging out and in and restarting numerous times. Any pointers would be appreciated. Thanks in anticipation Roger

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RE: [wlug] Changes to list behaviour
by Lindsay Druett 27 Nov '03

27 Nov '03

It's funny how people seem to have an opinion on this matter when it's is an operational thing, maybe they should consider being the moderator. > -----Original Message----- > From: Kim Shepherd [mailto:kims(a)waikato.ac.nz] > Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:30 > To: 'wlug' > Subject: Re: [wlug] Changes to list behaviour > > > On Thu, Nov 27, 2003 at 03:52:23PM +1300, Craig Box wrote: > > > Because of the (ever-increasing) ratio of spam:legitimate > posts that > > > are getting caught by Mailman, I've changed the default behaviour > > > upon receiving a message from an unsub'd address to > 'discard'. It was > > > previously 'hold'. > > > > http://www.daa.com.au/~james/articles/mailman-spamassassin/ > > > > Craig > > Yeah, I know and like SpamAssassin -- we run it on the > University mail server, as you probably know -- but > implementing it on a mailman-wide level will be a slightly > more long-term project. > > For the moment, we'll just all have to be a bit more careful > about which addresses we send from. (and it's not a big > problem.. maybe 2 legit mails a month compared with 75 spams) > > -k. > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list > wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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Changes to list behaviour
by Kim Shepherd 27 Nov '03

27 Nov '03

Hi all, Still alive? Because of the (ever-increasing) ratio of spam:legitimate posts that are getting caught by Mailman, I've changed the default behaviour upon receiving a message from an unsub'd address to 'discard'. It was previously 'hold'. I'd like to make it 'reject' (with a polite message sent back to the author) so you're all aware of when you accidentally post using the wrong e-mail address, but that just makes the spambots think we're listening harder, which in turn creates more useless mail traffic. Yes, I'm lazy. But when you get back from holiday and see "77 Pending Moderator Requests" that all require manual rejection/acceptance, it doesn't exactly make your day. ;-P -k.

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Meeting 2003-11-24
by Gerwin van de Steeg 24 Nov '03

24 Nov '03

Craig, I'd be interested in seeing that Red Hat Enterprise. Matthias, I'll take a copy of Fedora on one week lifetime warranty discs. Gerwin van de Steeg

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WLUG meeting Monday 23/11/03
by Craig Box 23 Nov '03

23 Nov '03

In the absence of the meeting reminder bot, I'd just like to remind everyone about tomorrow's meeting: we have a guest speaker, Peter Hooker from Globaltech NZ, to tell us about ACCPAC accounting/business solutions for Linux. (There's more on the Wiki.) Peters talk probably wont last very long, and this is the last formal presentation meeting for the year so please feel free to bring your computers along if you have anything you need to have looked at or want to have a play with. If anyone wants to have a look at the new Fedora Linux Project release or the White Box Enterprise Linux (Red Hat Enterprise 3 rebuild) let me know on the list. ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/

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RE: [wlug] hardware for free
by David Nicholls 21 Nov '03

21 Nov '03

hey brett, if you are out there, i found the cd cartridges for the cd tower... give me a call if you want them. cheers... david -----Original Message----- From: David Nicholls Subject: [wlug] hardware for free hey people, i have sitting in my garage the following: 1x 5x SCSI cd tower cheers... David ps. i cant drive, so pickup would be your responsibility.

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Upcoming meeting - ACCPAC Business Software, Mon Nov 24th, Crawshaw School
by Craig Box 17 Nov '03

17 Nov '03

Hi everyone At this coming Monday's meeting (November 24th), Peter Hooker from Globaltech NZ in Christchurch (http://www.globaltechnz.com/) will be presenting ACCPAC (http://www.accpac.com) and their line of business applications for Linux. Globaltech are ACCPAC partners who are looking to partner with Linux consultants for ACCPAC deployments, so if you're in the IT business, you're encouraged to attend this meeting. While I realise that this isn't relevant to everyone, that's the problem with a diverse user base. I've asked that Peter's presentation be broad enough to be of interest to everyone, and not just be a sales pitch. For the non consultant, are people interested in also having a brief look at Red Hat's new "community" release, Fedora Core 1? (If you want a copy of this, Matthias will probably roll you one off for a very nominal donation - reply to the list or email him privately. Thanks Matthias.) If there's anything else that people want to see or hear about at this meeting, please post to this list - this will be our last formal presentation for the year, so if you have any problems with your PC that you would like help with, feel free to bring it along too. Please note that the meeting is at Crawshaw School (http://www.wlug.org.nz/CrawshawSchool has a map) and will start around 7:30pm. Craig

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hardware for free
by David Nicholls 16 Nov '03

16 Nov '03

hey people, i have sitting in my garage the following: 1x sun server box (sans HDDs) ex uni & old 1x sun - i think - 19" monitor 2x sun sparc stations 1 with optical lan card, 1 without 1x 5x SCSI cd tower 1x 1GB external SCSI HDD (big sucker) 1x hp laserjetII with 8MB RAM (pretty sure it's that... its grunty anyway) 1x panasonic kx-p112something (its a colour or b&w dotmatrix anyway... something line that anyway) all of the sun and SCSI stuff is ex uni, ive had it for a few years and never had a chance to play with it as i had planned. so its going free to the first claimers to email me off list. there may even be an old SGI O2 for someone if i find the box. cheers... David ps. i cant drive, so pickup would be your responsibility.

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Committee meeting upcoming
by Craig Box 15 Nov '03

15 Nov '03

Hi everyone, There will be a WLUG committee meeting this coming Wednesday night (19 November.) The minutes of the previous meeting are at http://www.wlug.org.nz/MeetingTopics.2003-10-22 and I expect most of the meeting will be a continuation on those topics. If anyone has anything they want bought up at the meeting, or wishes to attend, please email me before Wednesday. Thanks Craig

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"Why the @#$% did my rpm break since last night?"
by Matthias Dallmeier 14 Nov '03

14 Nov '03

"[Update 2003-11-13]: The packages for Red Hat Linux 9 have been updated for compatibility with kernels not provided by Red Hat." -- https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2003-325.html Any Red Hat Linux 9 user who uses a non-Red Hat kernel and installed the glibc update from yesterday evening is likely to find that rpm no longer works for them. To fix the problem, export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.2.5 to fix rpm and then install the updated glibc package provided by Red Hat. -- Matthias -- http://matthias.dallmeier.net/

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The Hamilton Computer Club meeting is tonight
by Meeting Reminder Bot 11 Nov '03

11 Nov '03

The The Hamilton Computer Club meeting is tonight This is an announcement about the Hamilton Computer Club, not the next WLUG meeting. Feel free to ignore it. If you're interested in the Computer Club, they meet about 7:30pm on the second Wednesday of each month at St Peters Cathedral Hall which is up the hill at the South End of Victoria Street. For further details, see http://www.hamiltoncomputerclub.co.nz/

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Encypting backup utility?
by Glyn Webster 09 Nov '03

09 Nov '03

Does anyone know of a Linux backup utility that uses GPG to encypt individual files? I've recovered files from CRDOMs with bad bits recently, and didn't know it until I tried using them. Storing each file with a checksum would be the answer to that. Also, I'd like to be give backups to almost anyone willing to store them. Encrypting the backups would be the answer to that: "Please keep this somewhere cool and dry" is far less of an imposition than "Hide this forever. It has all my personal email on it". I think GPG encrypting individual files would provide both encryption and checksum. Is there anything wrong with that idea? And has anyone seen a tool to do this? (I could write a script to do it if had to, but I'm reinventing other wheels.) -- Glyn Webster ~ Simplicity Himself. ~ http://tiddly-pom.com

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Anyone got Fedora Core 1 ISO's yet?
by Oliver Jones 07 Nov '03

07 Nov '03

Anyone got Fedora Core 1 ISO's yet? Regards -- Oliver Jones » Director » oliver.jones(a)deeperdesign.com » +64 (21) 41 2238 Deeper Design Limited » +64 (7) 377 3328 » www.deeperdesign.com

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Re: Bugger
by Craig Box 03 Nov '03

03 Nov '03

Hi Gun, I've CC'd this back to the WLUG mailing list where everyone else can help too. > I am going well with Linux. I have been learning basic commands and these > past few days how to use the 'info' command. > I have a network problem with my linux box. It is not on the nw. 'route' > shows: > eth0 192.168.2.0 > eth1 192.168.1.0 > subnet 255.255.225.0 for both > eth0 connects to the adsl router with ip add. 192.168.1.1 > eth1 connects to the switch/hub. > The 2 other workstations are Windows XP with ip add. > 192.168.1.4 and 192.168.1.3. > I think the problem is with eth0 being 192.168.2.0 when it should be > 192.168.1.2. If this is the case, how do I change the eth0 address. > Is this clear enough? Any help you can offer would be much appreciated. Assuming you're running Red Hat or Mandrake, try poking around /etc/sysconfig/network. There's a ifcfg-eth0 file in there that will contain all the parameters for your networking, that is loaded at boot time. If you change it, you can reload networking with something like '/etc/init.d/networking restart' or 'service network restart' - have a look in the /etc/init.d dir, poke around, Google, see what you can find. Otherwise, you can 'manually' reconfigure an interface with ifconfig; # ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 You probably shouldn't, however, have this setup. If your ADSL router is a router, and connects into your switch, you only need one network card, which connects into the switch as well. After you get this configuration going, you can look at doing trickier stuff. You may want, for ease of configuration, to use two different subnets if you're going to have a "router->linux box" and a "linux box->windows" LAN. If you have any more questions, you might like to start with RUTE's networking section at http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/node28.html.gz. Craig

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pda
by Stephen Pearce 27 Oct '03

27 Oct '03

Hello! Anyone got advice on the best Linux pda? looked at the yoper .. but it has an internal battery and not that much support and looks a bit mechanically delicate ... zaureus looks nice but has many incantations .. iPAQ is another option .. but pricey ... I'm looking for best price performance .. any advice apreciated .. there seems to be endless choises Thanks Stephen

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WLUG meeting is tonight
by Meeting Reminder Bot 27 Oct '03

27 Oct '03

Today is 27/10/2003 The WLUG meeting is tonight CraigBox's Birthday! The topic will be "Giving Craig Gifts and Adoration", by order of the WLUG Secretary! And the subtopic Anti-Virus and Anti-Spam for Linux. Suggested synopsis (please add to me) * Why viruses in Linux (and almost any other non-MS operating system) are not currently an issue, and are unlikely to ever become one. + http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/56/33226.html * getting your LinuxRouterBox to run Exim, Amavis, SpamAssassin, Razor and ClamAV (CraigBox/GreigMcGill) + MailScanner * BayesianFiltering in Mozilla (DanielLawson/PerryLorier?) * plugging SpamAssassin into Evolution (anyone?) + [link] http://support.real-time.com/open-source/spamassassin/evoluti on.html + [link] http://www.atlantawebhost.com/articles/evolution_spamassassin .php + bogofilter & marking msgs spam/ham: [link] http://www.ime.usp.br/~rsilva/bogo-and-evo/ + .forward/.procmail: [link] http://lists.ximian.com/archives/public/evolution/2003-March/ 028045.html + Ximian's answer + http://krath.dk/linux/evolution_spamfilter/ * plugging SpamAssassin into KMail + [link] http://support.real-time.com/open-source/spamassassin/kmail.h tml + http://kmail.kde.org/tools.html * possible use of DNS to stop spam at the SMTP level - eg http://spf.pobox.com/, Reverse MX, or RR records (see http://www.irtf.org/asrg/survey_of_proposals.htm) * Virus scanning of cached web pages through the use of Squid, DansGuardian, and MailScanner (GerwinVanDeSteeg) _________________________________________________________________

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Warning: Mandrake 9.2 and LG CD-ROM Drives
by Linux Shop 27 Oct '03

27 Oct '03

Do not install Mandrake 9.2 on LG based CD-ROM drives. Many people have reported that their CD drives are fried/broken when installing Mandrake 9.2. LG drives are common on Dell PCs. See: http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/ http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Splatt_Forum&file=v… The issue is not thought to affect any other CD-ROM drives. Apologies to those that have read this message more than once, but it is important to let people know ASAP. ------------------ www.linuxshop.co.nz ------------------ Daniel Robertson Linux Shop Ltd P O Box 108001, Symonds St, Auckland 1035 Fax: (09) 624 4206 ------------------ www.linuxshop.co.nz ------------------

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MDA/Herc monitors.
by Gavin Denby 26 Oct '03

26 Oct '03

I have a couple - Maybe of these, They are being given a quick test today, but I no longer have any cards for these, so they are heading to a bin. If anyone wants one ( there is a paper white one there, I think) let me know, and I'll bring them to the lug meeting tonight. Free to a good home, or in the skip tomorrow. Fine for that old server.

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Samba 3 released
by Gavin Denby 26 Oct '03

26 Oct '03

Trusted as stable file and print server software, Samba is now creating a groundswell, triggered by the long-awaited release of the latest version, Samba 3.0.0. There are currently 14-16 million servers running Samba, with an expected 3 million soon to migrate. If you're a longtime Samba geek or a Windows network admin thinking about making the switch, read this interview with Samba Team co-founder John Terpstra. http://www.informit.com/content/index.asp?product_id=%7B4B17C0A6-4F0C-4641-… Its a good article and also has links to the reference guide and howtos. If you are thinking or using samba, I suggest it as a good background.

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WLUG meeting is on Monday, 4 days away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 23 Oct '03

23 Oct '03

Today is 23/10/2003 The WLUG meeting is on Monday, 4 days away CraigBox's Birthday! The topic will be "Giving Craig Gifts and Adoration", by order of the WLUG Secretary! And the subtopic Anti-Virus and Anti-Spam for Linux. Suggested synopsis (please add to me) * Why viruses in Linux (and almost any other non-MS operating system) are not currently an issue, and are unlikely to ever become one. + http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/56/33226.html * getting your LinuxRouterBox to run Exim, Amavis, SpamAssassin, Razor and ClamAV (CraigBox/GreigMcGill) + MailScanner * BayesianFiltering in Mozilla (DanielLawson/PerryLorier?) * plugging SpamAssassin into Evolution (anyone?) + [link] http://support.real-time.com/open-source/spamassassin/evoluti on.html + [link] http://www.atlantawebhost.com/articles/evolution_spamassassin .php + bogofilter & marking msgs spam/ham: [link] http://www.ime.usp.br/~rsilva/bogo-and-evo/ + .forward/.procmail: [link] http://lists.ximian.com/archives/public/evolution/2003-March/ 028045.html + Ximian's answer + http://krath.dk/linux/evolution_spamfilter/ * plugging SpamAssassin into KMail + [link] http://support.real-time.com/open-source/spamassassin/kmail.h tml + http://kmail.kde.org/tools.html * possible use of DNS to stop spam at the SMTP level - eg http://spf.pobox.com/, Reverse MX, or RR records (see http://www.irtf.org/asrg/survey_of_proposals.htm) * Virus scanning of cached web pages through the use of Squid, DansGuardian, and MailScanner (GerwinVanDeSteeg) _________________________________________________________________

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RH9
by Mark 21 Oct '03

21 Oct '03

Hi all, Does anyone have RH9 that I can copy? Mark

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Committee meeting
by Craig Box 21 Oct '03

21 Oct '03

Hi everyone, Seems our automatic "announce committee meeting" scripts aren't working yet, so sorry that the notice for this meeting is short. We are having a WLUG committee meeting tomorrow night, with the current tentative agenda: - library (Craig: publishers; Daniel: LJ) - advocacy (WLUG branded {G,K}noppix) - meeting arrangements - advertising If anyone wishes to add an item to this agenda or has something they would like to bring up at the meeting, please email secretary(a)wlug.org.nz before 3pm tomorrow. Thanks, Craig

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Re: "Too many open files" error
by Roger 19 Oct '03

19 Oct '03

I have made some progress on this problem. I upgraded my Sun JVM from 1.3.1_08 to 1.4.2_01 and the problem has very significantly improved, not gone completely though. In due course I think I need to check out the number of objects created by my application as it may be excessive. Thanks again for all the help Roger

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WLUG meeting is one week away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 19 Oct '03

19 Oct '03

Today is 20/10/2003 The WLUG meeting is one week away CraigBox's Birthday! The topic will be "Giving Craig Gifts and Adoration", by order of the WLUG Secretary! And the subtopic Anti-Virus and Anti-Spam for Linux. Suggested synopsis (please add to me) * Why viruses in Linux (and almost any other non-MS operating system) are not currently an issue, and are unlikely to ever become one. + http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/56/33226.html * getting your LinuxRouterBox to run Exim, Amavis, SpamAssassin, Razor and ClamAV (CraigBox/GreigMcGill) + MailScanner * BayesianFiltering in Mozilla (DanielLawson/PerryLorier?) * plugging SpamAssassin into Evolution (anyone?) + [link] http://support.real-time.com/open-source/spamassassin/evoluti on.html + [link] http://www.atlantawebhost.com/articles/evolution_spamassassin .php + bogofilter & marking msgs spam/ham: [link] http://www.ime.usp.br/~rsilva/bogo-and-evo/ + .forward/.procmail: [link] http://lists.ximian.com/archives/public/evolution/2003-March/ 028045.html + Ximian's answer + http://krath.dk/linux/evolution_spamfilter/ * plugging SpamAssassin into KMail + [link] http://support.real-time.com/open-source/spamassassin/kmail.h tml + http://kmail.kde.org/tools.html * possible use of DNS to stop spam at the SMTP level - eg http://spf.pobox.com/, Reverse MX, or RR records (see http://www.irtf.org/asrg/survey_of_proposals.htm) * Virus scanning of cached web pages through the use of Squid, DansGuardian, and MailScanner (GerwinVanDeSteeg) _________________________________________________________________

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Re: [wlug] "Too many open files" error
by Roger 15 Oct '03

15 Oct '03

Thanks for the helpful suggestions. Using the commands you gave me highlight that it is JBoss and the JVM that appear to be using up the resources. However, the "Too many open files" error has now transformed itself into a JVM crashing problem. I have had this problem off and on for a number of months, but it has now reached the point where I can't work around it. I am fairly convinced that it is a resource limitation problem somewhere, but I'm no expert in Linux and am running out of time. The server is on a small network, so I was wondering someone would be prepared to come around and look at it, for an appropriate fee, to see if there was any obvious (to them) problem. Cheers Roger

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Help - Strangeness in a Redhat
by Raymond Burgess 15 Oct '03

15 Oct '03

Hey ppl, I have a couple of strange things happening on my system, if anyone has any ideas on what is cause them please let me know. First, I am running RH 9 on my workstation and have a RH 7.1 box running as a webserver. I mount /home via nfs from the RH 7 box to my workstation. I have noticed that write speeds to /home are very slow, with no obvious reason. If I copy a file from /tmp (local) to /home/raymond (remote) it takes forever, and there is next to no network usage or cpu load. Transfers in the opersite direction saturate the 10MBit connection. I am using the following options for mount: rsize=8192,wsize=8192,intr Any Ideas why writes would be so slow? I have ftp running on the RH 7 box and ftping the data to /home/raymond via ftp runs at fullspeed. Second issue is a also strange, once I reboot I am able to run up2date and any rpm command, so I can install packages but after a day or two for no reason these commands just stop. They hang on execution as if they are waiting for something. You can't stop them with CTRL-C either, you have to kill -9 the process. This means I have to reboot my machine if want to install a new package, which isn't as much of a problem now I have things installed but was initially a pain in the bu when I first built the machine. Any Idea? Thanks, Raymond.

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Re: [wlug] "Too many open files" error
by Roger 14 Oct '03

14 Oct '03

John R. McPherson wrote: >> Roger wrote: >> >>> I am running an application server on Red Hat 8.0 and every so often the >>> machine generates an error message "Too many files open" and then locks >>> up. I have to restart the machine from the console to rectify the >>> situation. Can anyone please tell me if there is some configuration >>> setting that I can change to increase the number of permitted files? Is >>> there some command that allows me to monitor the number of open files in >>> the system? >> >> >> The other reply was for kernel version 2.6-something, but as far as I >> know, under kernel 2.4.x and earlier, there is a hard-coded limit in >> the kernel - /usr/include/linux/limits.h has >> #define OPEN_MAX 256 /* # open files a process may have */ >> (but that is per-process, not in total). >> >> You could install and try the lsof(8) command - I haven't used it >> much, but it stands for "LiSt Open Files", so it sounds like what you >> want :p > >er, no. > >Under 2.4 a process can have a stupidly large number of fd's open, you >need to modify /proc/sys/fs/file-max and perhaps /proc/sys/fs/inode-max >which is the system wide limit, to raise the limit per process you can >use ulimit to raise it above the 256 (default limit) you mentioned above. > >Running out of fd's is a pretty nasty business, what on earth are you >doing to that poor machine? Are you running lots of programs? (like, >hundreds of copies of something?) > That is part of the problem, I am not precisely sure why there are so many files opened. I am running a fairly large J2EE application on JBoss and it seems to load heaps of files into the JVM. I may need to change some settings in JBoss, but that of course is the subject for another forum. Thanks for all the help. Roger

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"Too many open files" error
by Roger 14 Oct '03

14 Oct '03

I am running an application server on Red Hat 8.0 and every so often the machine generates an error message "Too many files open" and then locks up. I have to restart the machine from the console to rectify the situation. Can anyone please tell me if there is some configuration setting that I can change to increase the number of permitted files? Is there some command that allows me to monitor the number of open files in the system? Thanks in anticipation Roger

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Does anyone know anything about "rimuhosting.com"?
by Glyn Webster 12 Oct '03

12 Oct '03

RimuHosting is a web hosting company that does Linux Virtual Private Server hosting. http://rimuhosting.com/ RimuHosting's web page says it is based in Hamilton, but that is all. There are no names are full addresses anywhere on web site. Googling, I found a number of message boards posts promoting rimuhosting.com by someone called "Peter B". I'd feel happier if I knew more about the business than that. Other than that, does it look like good thing? A friend and I plan to run a few low volume websites from something like this. One will be a dynamic one using Apache, Python and PostgreSQL. Will those all run happily under a 64MB RAM? -- Glyn Webster ~ Simplicity Himself. ~ glyn(a)wave.co.nz ~ http://tiddly-pom.com

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Stable Versions of Linux for Applicaiton Servers
by Roger 11 Oct '03

11 Oct '03

I am wanting to set up a production application server using JBoss (written in Java) and PostgreSQL (written in C I believe), so would be interested in opinions as to what the most reliable platform would be for this. Firstly, I am wondering what flavour of Linux is considered the most reliable and what version. I am currently using Red Hat 8.0. Secondly, I am would be interested if people have experience with different JVMs for such a application. Perhaps another way of asking the same question: Are there any platforms or combination of platforms that should be avoided. Cheers Roger

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Linuxjournal back issue CD
by Alastair Porter 10 Oct '03

10 Oct '03

Hi all, I seem to have won a back issue CD from linux journal, so if anyone wants a copy (maybe a few for the library?) give me a buzz and ill run some out when it turns up. Alastair -- (o< - A l a s t a i r P o r t e r //\ V_/_ alastair(a)linuxexperience.com

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OFF-TOPIC: FREE STUFF
by Andrew Thrift ＠ Home 09 Oct '03

09 Oct '03

2x WORKING Synoptic 2803 16 port 10megabit hubs 2x WORKING ATX PSU's 1x WORKING EMACS Hot Swap ATX PSU Chassis (no psu's) 1x DEAD Leo Monitor Must be gone by wednesday or it goes to the rubbish tip.

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Next WLUG Meeting: Anti-Virus and Anti-Spam for Linux (Monday 27 October)
by Craig Box 07 Oct '03

07 Oct '03

Hi everyone, Because I want to see a big "Happy Birthday to me" audience, based on current relevance and suggestions prior to the AGM we're cobbling together a great topic for the next meeting: "Anti-Virus and Anti-Spam E-Mail Filtering on Linux". Suggestions for what to talk about include: * server side filtering options (MailScanner, Amavis, ClamAV & SpamAssassin, probably presented in a "How To" format with Debian Woody, Exim and Courier IMAP) * client side filtering (how bayesian filtering works, Mozilla Mail's implementation, plugging SpamAssassin into Evolution or Kmail) Since I've been doing this at work lately, I don't mind presenting it (and might even drag Greig into it too), unless anyone else would specifically like to. Seeing there are a lot of new users in WLUG lately, and that it would seem a lot of you start with KDE on Mandrake; can you let me know what email client you use? If you're interested in this topic and can't wait till the meeting, I've put some preliminary notes up at http://www.wlug.org.nz/MeetingTopics.2003-10-27. Craig

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The Hamilton Computer Club meeting is tonight
by Meeting Reminder Bot 07 Oct '03

07 Oct '03

The The Hamilton Computer Club meeting is tonight This is an announcement about the Hamilton Computer Club, not the next WLUG meeting. Feel free to ignore it. If you're interested in the Computer Club, they meet about 7:30pm on the second Wednesday of each month at St Peters Cathedral Hall which is up the hill at the South End of Victoria Street. For further details, see http://www.hamiltoncomputerclub.co.nz/

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Hamilton PC Users Group meeting is tomorrow night
by Meeting Reminder Bot 06 Oct '03

06 Oct '03

The Hamilton PC Users Group meeting is tomorrow night

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Re: Next WLUG Meeting: Anti-Virus and Anti-Spam for Linux (Monday 27 October)
by Gerwin van de Steeg 06 Oct '03

06 Oct '03

Another addition would be about the modification for the dansguardian content filter available which adds antivirus scanning of webpages visited using the MailMonitor system so supports both ClamAV and other AV software. Craig, If you need some help give us a yell Gerwin

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