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managing ip subnets etc
by Stephen Pearce 25 Jan '04

25 Jan '04

Hi Could someone help with advise please I have a netgear mr814 wireless router with a dedicated adsl connector and 4 10/100mBPS utp sockets. Currently I have my main linux box hocked up via a cable to this .. the mr814 does dhcp allocation .. I do not have an adsl connection, but use a 56k internal modem to connect to my isp who assigns me a dynamic ip number each time I connect. I have found that if I connect to the isp (using kppp) I cannot access the internal netwrk .. including the router (which has its own 192.168.x.x ip number .. similarly although I can dial using kppp and make a connection .. I cannot access the internet when the intenal netwrk is up and running. I presume this is due to confusion about where to send the packets .. to the modem or the lan card. What is the best way to separate out these 2 networks and get them running so .. say I could use a browser on one of the boxes with a wlan card to connect thru the main linjux box and modem to the internet? This is an area of confusion for me .. does ipchanins do something here? Thanks Stephen Pearce

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Compiling kernels for Red Hat
by Craig Box 24 Jan '04

24 Jan '04

I'm running a 2.6 kernel on my desktop (Red Hat 9) machine, with a RPM from Arjan van de Ven at http://people.redhat.com/arjanv/2.5/RPMS.kernel/. I want to take the standard RH kernel (which I try and keep to as much as possible) and patch it for a couple of things, and then build an RPM which is as close to the original version as possible, with just the added extra features. When I unpack the SRPM of the kernel source, I get a /usr/src/linux-2.6.1-whatever directory, and I can run 'make rpm' in that directory after configuration. However, this gives me an RPM that doesn't insert itself in grub.conf and doesn't build an initrd. I assume there is a similar method to Debian's make-kpkg that will build me an all in one RPM, and I just can't find it. I expect one of our local Red Hat gurus (orj?) has battled this before, and I'd love to know what other people do in this situation. Thanks, Craig

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Perl Haiku Poetry Contest
by Craig Box 22 Jan '04

22 Jan '04

From: Elaine Chong [mailto:ElaineC(a)ActiveState.com] Sent: Friday, 23 January 2004 8:37 a.m. Subject: Perl Haiku Poetry Contest Hello, ActiveState is sponsoring a Perl Haiku Poetry Contest. I thought I'd send you the details in case your user group members are interested in participating. Sincerely, Elaine Chong, User Group Program Administrator ActiveState, a division of Sophos http://www.ActiveState.com 604.484.6423 ********************************** Perl Haiku Poetry Contest Tell us why you love Perl VANCOUVER, BC - JANUARY 21, 2004 - ActiveState is pleased to announce the ActiveState Perl Haiku Poetry Contest. Do you love Perl as much as we do? Then prove it with your passion, creativity, and wit! Categories include Best Haiku Poem Written in Perl and Best Haiku Poem About Perl. All entries will be featured on our website. Winners will be selected by ActiveState's Perl development team. Prizes will be awarded for the top three entries in each category and include licenses for ASPN Perl featuring Komodo Professional Edition, and cool ActiveState gear. Enter the contest now! http://activestate.com/Corporate/PerlHaiku/ The deadline for entries is 12:00PM PST, February 8, 2004. Winners will be announced on February 10. Full contest rules are listed here: http://activestate.com/Corporate/PerlHaiku/Legal.html Good luck!

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VGA.
by Oliver Jones 22 Jan '04

22 Jan '04

Forget the VGA. If you want a used 15" monitor with built in speakers I have one here you can have for $20 + Shipping ($30 Mainfreight, so $50 total). Then you could at least use 800x600 which might be acceptable. 640x480 is ridiculously small. Regards -- Oliver Jones » Director » oliver.jones(a)deeperdesign.com » +64 (21) 41 2238 Deeper Design Limited » +64 (7) 377 3328 » www.deeperdesign.com

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Open Office and VGA Monitors
by Roger 21 Jan '04

21 Jan '04

A while ago I posted a question asking if it were possible for Open Office to work with Red Hat 8 and an old VGA monitor, because there is a problem that the fonts are far too big, e.g. "file" takes up 3/4's of the screen. The response was basically "no" nothing practical could be done about the problem. However, that does not appear to be the complete story for two reasons. Firstly, I have seen a posting saying that it is a Red Hat 8 bug to do with the initial specification of the screen size. The message indicated that if the screen size was specified in mm's then there was no prob., but if inches were used then there was a problem. Red Hat have supposedly posted a fix, but I have not been able to find it. Can anyone tell me where to find the fix or how to specify the screen size on an installed system please? The second reason that Open Office must work with my configuration is that it does for one of the users. This user has been the most uncontrolled and cavalier in his use of the Internet and downloads. Initially, I thought it was due to the fact that he had Macro Media Flash and the others didn't. However, this proved to be not true. Can anyone suggest where I should look to find the difference that makes Open Office work for this one user, please? Thanks in anticipation Roger

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Upcoming committee meeting: 21 Jan
by Craig Box 19 Jan '04

19 Jan '04

Sorry about the late notice (The meeting reminder bot _will_ be fixed by next meeting) but we are having a WLUG committee meeting on Wednesday, so anyone with any business for the meeting should get it to me before Wednesday 5pm. Thanks, Craig

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Meeting is TONIGHT
by Daniel Lawson 18 Jan '04

18 Jan '04

Just a reminder that the January meeting is tonight. Lindsay picked the short straw for tonight, and the topic is "Cisco to Linux Interoperability" Cisco to Linux Interoperability. At Open2View (cnr Grey St and Cobham Drive) at 7:30pm.

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Printing from the Wiki
by Daniel Lawson 15 Jan '04

15 Jan '04

I've just fixed printing support for the WLUG Wiki (http://www.wlug.org.nz/) If you print a page on the wiki, it'll now strip off the sidebar, top and bottom navbars, and anything else thats not really content for that page. This is done using CSS, so if you have a browser that can change style type, you can select the 'Printer' style to see what it will come out like. EG: in Mozilla, go to "View | Use Style | Printer" Or, you can *probably* use 'Print Preview' and it should more or less display right, although Mozilla is a bit broken here - it'll look like the text is overlapping, but it will print out just fine :) Daniel

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Meeting this monday - location
by John R. McPherson 15 Jan '04

15 Jan '04

Next WLUG Meeting: 19th January 2004 - Cisco to Linux Interoperability. Presented by Lindsay Druett. Location: Open2View, 2 Grey St (corner Grey St and Cobham Drive) at 7:30pm. Remember, if you want to suggest a topic you would like to see at one of the monthly meetings, or you have a topic you would like to present, feel free to either edit the wiki page at http://www.wlug.org.nz/MeetingTopics or discuss it on this list. John McPherson

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January meeting - 7 days away
by John R. McPherson 12 Jan '04

12 Jan '04

Next WLUG Meeting: 19th January 2004 - Cisco to Linux Interoperability. Location to be advised. Note - meeting brought forward a week due to anniversary weekend. Cisco to Linux Interoperability Presented by our resident Cisco Nut, Lindsay Druett from Waikato University. Lindsay will also be covering the Just for Fun Network Management System (http://jffnms.sourceforge.net/) Don't know what it is? Come see the meeting then.

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RE: [wlug] Please unsubscribe
by Lindsay Druett 08 Jan '04

08 Jan '04

It's less confusing than lining up Red Bulls... Too much V is bad for you, so is Red Bull... Rots your teeth, races your heart, and you get less sleep... > -----Original Message----- > From: James Spooner [mailto:james(a)spoons.gen.nz] > Sent: Thursday, 8 January 2004 16:32 > To: greig(a)hamiltron.net; wlug > Subject: Re: [wlug] Please unsubscribe > > > Greig McGill wrote: > > See the bit below? People say we get all elitest...but > really all we > > want is for people to use their brains. :-/ > > > > VVVVVVVVVVVVVVV > What are the VVV's for? > > > > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> wlug mailing list > >> wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > >> http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list > wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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Please unsubscribe
by monkfish 08 Jan '04

08 Jan '04

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PSM newbie help
by Gun Caundle 08 Jan '04

08 Jan '04

I am a Linux newbie. I have recently installed a RH9 box as part of a Windows network. In Mozilla, when I try to activate my RH9, a window pops up: 'Alert This document cannot be displayed unless you install the Personal Security manager (PSM) Download......etc' I downloaded and copied mozilla-psm 1.2.1-26. to my RH system as root. 2x clicked and the installation window flashed up briefly for about 1 second but didn't install. This window said: " Preparing system update: Before modifying packages on your system package dependencies must be determined. This process may take a few minutes." To confirm, in the terminal window I typed: 'rpm -q psm' "package psm is not installed" Any help would be appreciated to get it installed. Kind regards Gun Caundle 77 Maniapoto St. Otorohanga ph/fax 07 873 6575 gun(a)guncom.co.nz

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NZNOG Conference
by Jamie Curtis 07 Jan '04

07 Jan '04

Hi there, For those of you who are on the WLUG list, but are either unaware or not subscribed to the New Zealand Network Operators Group (NZNOG) list, the WAND group at the University of Waikato are hosting their annual conference late this month. The NZNOG list membership consists mainly of people involved in ISP's however the conference should be of interest to anyone involved in medium to large scale networks, even if they are internal or private networks. Also, if you have a good basic understanding of IP networks the conference provides a good way to extend your knowledge. They are also a great social event and a chance to meet many really interesting people in the NZ Internet scene. Almost all details, online registration etc are available from the conference website: http://www.nznog.org On the schedule are a good bunch of speakers on interesting topics including details of a major IPv6 announcement, wireless IP, VoIP, H.323 Video, NZ NGI, BGP, CityLink plans and a heap more. There'll be speakers from many of NZ's major ISPs and other major industry players and from vendors including Cisco and Juniper. Also a day of workshops and tutorials has been added to the program which will include APNIC's Internet Resource Management Essentials training course and Ian Hastie (Link Information Technology Limited) on Wireless Technology. The APNIC training in particular should be of interest to any who has to deal with any block of realworld IP space. A full abstract of the training is available on the conference website. We've received very generous sponsorship, including from our primary sponsors CityLink and major sponsor InternetNZ. Also from FX networks, the University and the WAND group. This has kept the cost to just $120 for all three days (including lunches, tea and coffee, tee shirt, coffee mug, sponsored bar, etc.) **NOTE*** YOU MUST REGISTER THIS WEEK to get the discounted registration fee or if you require on campus accommodation. If you know of people who might benefit from the conference but who don't regularly read NZNOG (e.g. major customers, operators of national private networks etc) we would be grateful if you would make them aware of the conference. Full details and registration are at: http://www.nznog.org/ Looking forward to seeing you there. Jamie

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W00t. 2.6.0 final release.
by Oliver Jones 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

The wait is finally over. :) -- Oliver Jones » Director » oliver.jones(a)deeperdesign.com » +64 (21) 41 2238 Deeper Design Limited » +64 (7) 377 3328 » www.deeperdesign.com

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ATI Graphics cards.
by Oliver Jones 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

Hi. Anyone here use new ATI Radeon graphics cards under Linux? I'm looking at buying a new mid range graphics card. Ie, either an nVidia 5700 Ultra or ATI Radeon 9600XT. The supplier I'm looking at is out of stock on the nVidia cards. So I'm considering an ATI. I've never used an ATI video card. I moved from Voodoo's to nVidia way back when Quake 3 came out. In particular I'm interested to know if dual display and TV out works with ATI video cards under Linux. I'm pretty sure this works with nVidia boards under Linux. Anyone here doing things like that on an ATI? Regards -- Oliver Jones » Director » oliver.jones(a)deeperdesign.com » +64 (21) 41 2238 Deeper Design Limited » +64 (7) 377 3328 » www.deeperdesign.com

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ATI...
by Oliver Jones 18 Dec '03

18 Dec '03

Thanks for all your info guys. I think I've decided to go with an nVidia 5700 solution even though they arn't as fast as the Radeon 9600XT series. I've found another supplier who has them in stock. Regards -- Oliver Jones » Director » oliver.jones(a)deeperdesign.com » +64 (21) 41 2238 Deeper Design Limited » +64 (7) 377 3328 » www.deeperdesign.com

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Christmas BBQ -- Tonight
by Daniel Lawson 16 Dec '03

16 Dec '03

So, the weather looks good today. It seems we made the right decision in postponing this till tonight. Christmas BBQ is Tonight, Wednesday 17th December. Start at about 6 pm. 3 Liston Crescent, Hillcrest, Hamilton. BYO meat and drink. Some Salads, bread and softdrink will be provided. There is a map on the wiki at http://www.wlug.org.nz/DaHoose See you tonight Daniel

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Jpegs a security risk?
by Oliver Jones 15 Dec '03

15 Dec '03

A while back M$ produced a host fix for IE/OE that deems JPEG files a security risk and stops users from opening or displaying them. Is this a problem that exists for all attached images or is it just images sent from Linux mail clients? I only use Evolution for email so I'm not sure how to works between OE and OE. Anyone else seen this sort of errant behaviour from OE? Regards -- Oliver Jones » Director » oliver.jones(a)deeperdesign.com » +64 (21) 41 2238 Deeper Design Limited » +64 (7) 377 3328 » www.deeperdesign.com

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fedora core
by Stephen Pearce 15 Dec '03

15 Dec '03

Hi Has anyone got the 6 disk version of this that they would be prepared to send to me for media and psotage cost please (3 iso binary images and 3 iso srpm images) Thanks Stephen

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BBQ Postponed
by Jamie Curtis 14 Dec '03

14 Dec '03

Hi there, Due to the unpredictability of the weather out there today, we have decided that it is best to postpone the Xmas BBQ until a day where we have a bit more faith in the weather holding up. So, our revised plan is 6pm, Wednesday 17th. Same deal applies, BYO meat and drink, some salads, bread and softdrink provided. Location still at 3 Liston Crescent. Fingers crossed the weather will be fine ! Hope to see you all there, Cheers, Jamie

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Audio Recording
by Daniel Lawson 11 Dec '03

11 Dec '03

As part of a holiday project, I was going to transfer soem vinyls I have to CD. Has anyone done anything like this, and have any preferred tools? Recording the audio isn't really a problem. What I would like some recommendations on are tools which will remove at least some of the record hiss. I know I wont get it all, but i should be able to remove a fair bit. I'll also need to split the vinyls up into tracks, so a wav editor would be a good start. I seem to remember a linux journal article on this recently, so I'm looking through the archives, but if anyone has any recommendations / experiences they wish to share, it would be good :) Thanks, Daniel

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hardware
by David Nicholls 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

hi guys, im looking to get my hands on a PII bix (or higher) as cheaply as possible to replacement for my awful sounding linux router/webserver. anyone got anything that might be of interest? cheers & thanks... David Nicholls Computer Support Consultant School of Science & Technology/Dept of Chemistry The University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

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WLUG Christmas BBQ
by Daniel Lawson 10 Dec '03

10 Dec '03

Hey folks, sorry for the late notice. Busy time of year :) WLUG Christmas BBQ: Where: 3 Liston Cres, Hillcrest (we'll put a map on the wiki soon) When: 4pm onwards, Sunday 14 December BBQ starts at 6 or so. BYO meat and drinks. Some salad, bread and softdrink will be provided. If its raining, we don't really have room to have this inside or in the garage. We'll post a confirmation email to the list on the day as to whether its going ahead or not. Please check your email on the day!

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chat/pppd dropping DTR
by Jonathan Purvis 09 Dec '03

09 Dec '03

Hello, I have a problem with chat and/or pppd. Run via "pon" on Debian 3.0, pppd dials ok and then hangs up just after making the connection. If i change the authentication from PAP to Chat, then it hangs up after logging in. If i dial up with minicom, login manually and then run "pppd /dev/modem noauth defaultroute", everything is fine. This suggests that the hangup is occuring during the handover from chat to pppd. Swapping the Dynalink 56k modem i was using for my trusty battery powered 14k4 which has the DTR line control the power revealed that pppd was dropping the DTR line, causing the modem to hang up. So how do i stop it doing this? Setting the "local" option on pppd (instead of "modem") had no effect (other than it not noticing the modem had hung up), nor did playing with the "close_delay" option of setserial. The serial ports on this machine come from a Dolphin twin serial PCI card (currently on clearance for $10 at DSE), if anyone is familar with them. Thanks, Jon

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Trying to decifer sendmail logs....
by Oliver Jones 09 Dec '03

09 Dec '03

Lately I've noticed I've been getting a lot of these in my maillog: Losing ./qfhB7AvXZ20553: savemail panic SYSERR(root): savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere Sendmail mail logs make little sense to me.... Here is an example: hB438B623222: to=oliver(a)deeper.co.nz, delay=3+07:49:20, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=cyrus, pri=121146, relay=localhost, dsn=5.6.0, stat=Service unavailable hB438B623222: hB7AvXZ20553: DSN: Service unavailable hB7AvXZ20553: to=<jimmiegodwinan(a)yahoo.com>, delay=00:00:01, xdelay=00:00:01, mailer=esmtp, pri=30985, relay=mx1.mail.yahoo.com. [64.157.4.78], dsn=5.0.0, stat=Service unavailable hB7AvXZ20553: hB7AvXa20553: return to sender: Service unavailable hB7AvXa20553: to=postmaster, delay=00:00:00, xdelay=00:00:00, mailer=cyrus, pri=31085, relay=localhost [[UNIX: /var/imap/socket/lmtp]], dsn=5.6.0, stat=Service unavailable hB7AvXZ20553: Losing ./qfhB7AvXZ20553: savemail panic hB7AvXZ20553: SYSERR(root): savemail: cannot save rejected email anywhere >From what I can tell it all looks like spam bounces that are getting bounced back and then getting lost for some reason. Or something. It is just concerning me that maybe I'm loosing legitimate mail. I doubt this but it is a worry. I did a search on the web for error messages like this and they indicated that I might not have a postmaster alias setup. Well I don't. I have a "postmaster" mail account setup in cyrus so that spam bounces didn't fill up my personal mailbox. I get enough spam as it is. Which is why stuff like "to=postmaster, ... mailer=cyrus, ... stat=Service unavailable" worries me. If someone can help me identify what the fsck is wrong (if anything) and make those worrisome message go away I'd be most grateful (ie gifts would be dolled out). Regards -- Oliver Jones <oliver(a)deeper.co.nz> Deeper Design Limited

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Software Patents (What's going on in EEC)
by Lindsay Druett 02 Dec '03

02 Dec '03

http://cord.de/tools/squid/calamaris/ http://swpat.ffii.org/index.en.html _____ Lindsay Druett CCNP CCDP NZTC (Elect) Network Engineer Network Administration and Development ITS Network Infrastructure The University of Waikato Private Bag 3105 Hamilton, New Zealand Telephone 64-7-838 4999 Mobile 027-276 0700 lindsayd(a)waikato.ac.nz http://www.waikato.ac.nz <http://www.waikato.ac.nz/> AS/NZS 3000:2000 : The official guide to playing Aussie Rules. www.230.volts.ac.nz <http://www.230.volts.ac.nz/>

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DSA-403-1
by Kim Shepherd 01 Dec '03

01 Dec '03

This e-mail of Greig's was auto-discarded... Luckily I get a copy of all discarded messages, so here it is: (another reminder -- remember the address you subscribed with, or subscribe them all!) ----begin-forward---- For those using custom kernels...update! :) -----Original Message----- From: debian-security-announce(a)lists.debian.org [mailto:debian-security-announce(a)lists.debian.org] Sent: Tuesday, 2 December 2003 9:17 a.m. To: full-disclosure(a)lists.netsys.com Subject: [Full-Disclosure] [SECURITY] [DSA-403-1] userland can access Linux kernel memory -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Debian Security Advisory DSA-403-1 security(a)debian.org http://www.debian.org/security/ Wichert Akkerman December 1, 2003 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Package : kernel-image-2.4.18-1-alpha, kernel-image-2.4.18-1-i386, kernel-source-2.4.18 Vulnerability : userland can access full kernel memory Problem type : local Debian-specific: no CVE Id(s) : CAN-2003-0961 Recently multiple servers of the Debian project were compromised using a Debian developers account and an unknown root exploit. Forensics revealed a burneye encrypted exploit. Robert van der Meulen managed to decrypt the binary which revealed a kernel exploit. Study of the exploit by the RedHat and SuSE kernel and security teams quickly revealed that the exploit used an integer overflow in the brk system call. Using this bug it is possible for a userland program to trick the kernel into giving access to the full kernel address space. This problem was found in September by Andrew Morton, but unfortunately that was too late for the 2.4.22 kernel release. This bug has been fixed in kernel version 2.4.23 for the 2.4 tree and 2.6.0-test6 kernel tree. For Debian it has been fixed in version 2.4.18-12 of the kernel source packages, version 2.4.18-14 of the i386 kernel images and version 2.4.18-11 of the alpha kernel images. Upgrade instructions - -------------------- wget url will fetch the file for you dpkg -i file.deb will install the referenced file. If you are using the apt-get package manager, use the line for sources.list as given below: apt-get update will update the internal database apt-get upgrade will install corrected packages You may use an automated update by adding the resources from the footer to the proper configuration. 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43c7a34c6428e7d79fb660b4a434aaae http://security.debian.org/pool/updates/main/k/kernel-image-2.4.18-1-i386/ke rnel-image-2.4.18-1-686_2.4.18-12_i386.deb Size/MD5 checksum: 8703034 a6d0829412575a9f7e6c227c5275a47b - -- - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Debian Security team <team(a)security.debian.org> http://www.debian.org/security/ Mailing-List: debian-security-announce(a)lists.debian.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/y6HGPLiSUC+jvC0RAnd9AKCKvn969KiqvmErdGNv1iJSgzTVxwCbBkWB IZdDr8fKKloX6PSe+tPOW68= =nGzM -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. 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Environment Variable Not Appearing in New Shell
by Roger 01 Dec '03

01 Dec '03

Hi, I am running Red Hat 7, kernel 2.4.9. I am using KDE. I believe I am using the bash shell. Recently I have set up a couple of extra environment variables in the /etc/profile file. They all seem to work fine except the one called LD_LIBRARY_PATH. When I login from the initial login screen and subsequently start a shell the variable is available in that environment. However, if from that shell I then type "su" and become root, the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable is not available in the new environment, but all the other environment variables appear to be. If I then logout completely and login as root from the initial screen and start a shell then again the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable is available there. Here is a snippet of the /etc/profile file: # Define the Optimizeit home directory. OPTIMIZEIT_HOME=/home/Roger02/OptimizeitSuite export OPTIMIZEIT_HOME # Set up the library path for Optimizeit LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$OPTIMIZEIT_HOME/lib export LD_LIBRARY_PATH Can anyone please tell me why the LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable is not universally available? Is LD_LIBRARY_PATH a reserved variable that requires some extra configuration to make it universally available? Or have I just done something silly? Note OPTIMIZEIT_HOME was a new variable at the same time as LD_LIBRARY_PATH and is available in all shells that I have tried. I have also tried logging out and in and restarting numerous times. Any pointers would be appreciated. Thanks in anticipation Roger

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RE: [wlug] Changes to list behaviour
by Lindsay Druett 27 Nov '03

27 Nov '03

It's funny how people seem to have an opinion on this matter when it's is an operational thing, maybe they should consider being the moderator. > -----Original Message----- > From: Kim Shepherd [mailto:kims(a)waikato.ac.nz] > Sent: Thursday, 27 November 2003 16:30 > To: 'wlug' > Subject: Re: [wlug] Changes to list behaviour > > > On Thu, Nov 27, 2003 at 03:52:23PM +1300, Craig Box wrote: > > > Because of the (ever-increasing) ratio of spam:legitimate > posts that > > > are getting caught by Mailman, I've changed the default behaviour > > > upon receiving a message from an unsub'd address to > 'discard'. It was > > > previously 'hold'. > > > > http://www.daa.com.au/~james/articles/mailman-spamassassin/ > > > > Craig > > Yeah, I know and like SpamAssassin -- we run it on the > University mail server, as you probably know -- but > implementing it on a mailman-wide level will be a slightly > more long-term project. > > For the moment, we'll just all have to be a bit more careful > about which addresses we send from. (and it's not a big > problem.. maybe 2 legit mails a month compared with 75 spams) > > -k. > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list > wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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Changes to list behaviour
by Kim Shepherd 27 Nov '03

27 Nov '03

Hi all, Still alive? Because of the (ever-increasing) ratio of spam:legitimate posts that are getting caught by Mailman, I've changed the default behaviour upon receiving a message from an unsub'd address to 'discard'. It was previously 'hold'. I'd like to make it 'reject' (with a polite message sent back to the author) so you're all aware of when you accidentally post using the wrong e-mail address, but that just makes the spambots think we're listening harder, which in turn creates more useless mail traffic. Yes, I'm lazy. But when you get back from holiday and see "77 Pending Moderator Requests" that all require manual rejection/acceptance, it doesn't exactly make your day. ;-P -k.

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Meeting 2003-11-24
by Gerwin van de Steeg 24 Nov '03

24 Nov '03

Craig, I'd be interested in seeing that Red Hat Enterprise. Matthias, I'll take a copy of Fedora on one week lifetime warranty discs. Gerwin van de Steeg

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WLUG meeting Monday 23/11/03
by Craig Box 23 Nov '03

23 Nov '03

In the absence of the meeting reminder bot, I'd just like to remind everyone about tomorrow's meeting: we have a guest speaker, Peter Hooker from Globaltech NZ, to tell us about ACCPAC accounting/business solutions for Linux. (There's more on the Wiki.) Peters talk probably wont last very long, and this is the last formal presentation meeting for the year so please feel free to bring your computers along if you have anything you need to have looked at or want to have a play with. If anyone wants to have a look at the new Fedora Linux Project release or the White Box Enterprise Linux (Red Hat Enterprise 3 rebuild) let me know on the list. ------------------------------------------------- This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/

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RE: [wlug] hardware for free
by David Nicholls 21 Nov '03

21 Nov '03

hey brett, if you are out there, i found the cd cartridges for the cd tower... give me a call if you want them. cheers... david -----Original Message----- From: David Nicholls Subject: [wlug] hardware for free hey people, i have sitting in my garage the following: 1x 5x SCSI cd tower cheers... David ps. i cant drive, so pickup would be your responsibility.

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Upcoming meeting - ACCPAC Business Software, Mon Nov 24th, Crawshaw School
by Craig Box 17 Nov '03

17 Nov '03

Hi everyone At this coming Monday's meeting (November 24th), Peter Hooker from Globaltech NZ in Christchurch (http://www.globaltechnz.com/) will be presenting ACCPAC (http://www.accpac.com) and their line of business applications for Linux. Globaltech are ACCPAC partners who are looking to partner with Linux consultants for ACCPAC deployments, so if you're in the IT business, you're encouraged to attend this meeting. While I realise that this isn't relevant to everyone, that's the problem with a diverse user base. I've asked that Peter's presentation be broad enough to be of interest to everyone, and not just be a sales pitch. For the non consultant, are people interested in also having a brief look at Red Hat's new "community" release, Fedora Core 1? (If you want a copy of this, Matthias will probably roll you one off for a very nominal donation - reply to the list or email him privately. Thanks Matthias.) If there's anything else that people want to see or hear about at this meeting, please post to this list - this will be our last formal presentation for the year, so if you have any problems with your PC that you would like help with, feel free to bring it along too. Please note that the meeting is at Crawshaw School (http://www.wlug.org.nz/CrawshawSchool has a map) and will start around 7:30pm. Craig

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hardware for free
by David Nicholls 16 Nov '03

16 Nov '03

hey people, i have sitting in my garage the following: 1x sun server box (sans HDDs) ex uni & old 1x sun - i think - 19" monitor 2x sun sparc stations 1 with optical lan card, 1 without 1x 5x SCSI cd tower 1x 1GB external SCSI HDD (big sucker) 1x hp laserjetII with 8MB RAM (pretty sure it's that... its grunty anyway) 1x panasonic kx-p112something (its a colour or b&w dotmatrix anyway... something line that anyway) all of the sun and SCSI stuff is ex uni, ive had it for a few years and never had a chance to play with it as i had planned. so its going free to the first claimers to email me off list. there may even be an old SGI O2 for someone if i find the box. cheers... David ps. i cant drive, so pickup would be your responsibility.

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Committee meeting upcoming
by Craig Box 15 Nov '03

15 Nov '03

Hi everyone, There will be a WLUG committee meeting this coming Wednesday night (19 November.) The minutes of the previous meeting are at http://www.wlug.org.nz/MeetingTopics.2003-10-22 and I expect most of the meeting will be a continuation on those topics. If anyone has anything they want bought up at the meeting, or wishes to attend, please email me before Wednesday. Thanks Craig

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"Why the @#$% did my rpm break since last night?"
by Matthias Dallmeier 14 Nov '03

14 Nov '03

"[Update 2003-11-13]: The packages for Red Hat Linux 9 have been updated for compatibility with kernels not provided by Red Hat." -- https://rhn.redhat.com/errata/RHSA-2003-325.html Any Red Hat Linux 9 user who uses a non-Red Hat kernel and installed the glibc update from yesterday evening is likely to find that rpm no longer works for them. To fix the problem, export LD_ASSUME_KERNEL=2.2.5 to fix rpm and then install the updated glibc package provided by Red Hat. -- Matthias -- http://matthias.dallmeier.net/

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The Hamilton Computer Club meeting is tonight
by Meeting Reminder Bot 11 Nov '03

11 Nov '03

The The Hamilton Computer Club meeting is tonight This is an announcement about the Hamilton Computer Club, not the next WLUG meeting. Feel free to ignore it. If you're interested in the Computer Club, they meet about 7:30pm on the second Wednesday of each month at St Peters Cathedral Hall which is up the hill at the South End of Victoria Street. For further details, see http://www.hamiltoncomputerclub.co.nz/

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Encypting backup utility?
by Glyn Webster 09 Nov '03

09 Nov '03

Does anyone know of a Linux backup utility that uses GPG to encypt individual files? I've recovered files from CRDOMs with bad bits recently, and didn't know it until I tried using them. Storing each file with a checksum would be the answer to that. Also, I'd like to be give backups to almost anyone willing to store them. Encrypting the backups would be the answer to that: "Please keep this somewhere cool and dry" is far less of an imposition than "Hide this forever. It has all my personal email on it". I think GPG encrypting individual files would provide both encryption and checksum. Is there anything wrong with that idea? And has anyone seen a tool to do this? (I could write a script to do it if had to, but I'm reinventing other wheels.) -- Glyn Webster ~ Simplicity Himself. ~ http://tiddly-pom.com

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Anyone got Fedora Core 1 ISO's yet?
by Oliver Jones 07 Nov '03

07 Nov '03

Anyone got Fedora Core 1 ISO's yet? Regards -- Oliver Jones » Director » oliver.jones(a)deeperdesign.com » +64 (21) 41 2238 Deeper Design Limited » +64 (7) 377 3328 » www.deeperdesign.com

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Re: Bugger
by Craig Box 03 Nov '03

03 Nov '03

Hi Gun, I've CC'd this back to the WLUG mailing list where everyone else can help too. > I am going well with Linux. I have been learning basic commands and these > past few days how to use the 'info' command. > I have a network problem with my linux box. It is not on the nw. 'route' > shows: > eth0 192.168.2.0 > eth1 192.168.1.0 > subnet 255.255.225.0 for both > eth0 connects to the adsl router with ip add. 192.168.1.1 > eth1 connects to the switch/hub. > The 2 other workstations are Windows XP with ip add. > 192.168.1.4 and 192.168.1.3. > I think the problem is with eth0 being 192.168.2.0 when it should be > 192.168.1.2. If this is the case, how do I change the eth0 address. > Is this clear enough? Any help you can offer would be much appreciated. Assuming you're running Red Hat or Mandrake, try poking around /etc/sysconfig/network. There's a ifcfg-eth0 file in there that will contain all the parameters for your networking, that is loaded at boot time. If you change it, you can reload networking with something like '/etc/init.d/networking restart' or 'service network restart' - have a look in the /etc/init.d dir, poke around, Google, see what you can find. Otherwise, you can 'manually' reconfigure an interface with ifconfig; # ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 You probably shouldn't, however, have this setup. If your ADSL router is a router, and connects into your switch, you only need one network card, which connects into the switch as well. After you get this configuration going, you can look at doing trickier stuff. You may want, for ease of configuration, to use two different subnets if you're going to have a "router->linux box" and a "linux box->windows" LAN. If you have any more questions, you might like to start with RUTE's networking section at http://www.icon.co.za/~psheer/book/node28.html.gz. Craig

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pda
by Stephen Pearce 27 Oct '03

27 Oct '03

Hello! Anyone got advice on the best Linux pda? looked at the yoper .. but it has an internal battery and not that much support and looks a bit mechanically delicate ... zaureus looks nice but has many incantations .. iPAQ is another option .. but pricey ... I'm looking for best price performance .. any advice apreciated .. there seems to be endless choises Thanks Stephen

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WLUG meeting is tonight
by Meeting Reminder Bot 27 Oct '03

27 Oct '03

Today is 27/10/2003 The WLUG meeting is tonight CraigBox's Birthday! The topic will be "Giving Craig Gifts and Adoration", by order of the WLUG Secretary! And the subtopic Anti-Virus and Anti-Spam for Linux. Suggested synopsis (please add to me) * Why viruses in Linux (and almost any other non-MS operating system) are not currently an issue, and are unlikely to ever become one. + http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/56/33226.html * getting your LinuxRouterBox to run Exim, Amavis, SpamAssassin, Razor and ClamAV (CraigBox/GreigMcGill) + MailScanner * BayesianFiltering in Mozilla (DanielLawson/PerryLorier?) * plugging SpamAssassin into Evolution (anyone?) + [link] http://support.real-time.com/open-source/spamassassin/evoluti on.html + [link] http://www.atlantawebhost.com/articles/evolution_spamassassin .php + bogofilter & marking msgs spam/ham: [link] http://www.ime.usp.br/~rsilva/bogo-and-evo/ + .forward/.procmail: [link] http://lists.ximian.com/archives/public/evolution/2003-March/ 028045.html + Ximian's answer + http://krath.dk/linux/evolution_spamfilter/ * plugging SpamAssassin into KMail + [link] http://support.real-time.com/open-source/spamassassin/kmail.h tml + http://kmail.kde.org/tools.html * possible use of DNS to stop spam at the SMTP level - eg http://spf.pobox.com/, Reverse MX, or RR records (see http://www.irtf.org/asrg/survey_of_proposals.htm) * Virus scanning of cached web pages through the use of Squid, DansGuardian, and MailScanner (GerwinVanDeSteeg) _________________________________________________________________

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Warning: Mandrake 9.2 and LG CD-ROM Drives
by Linux Shop 27 Oct '03

27 Oct '03

Do not install Mandrake 9.2 on LG based CD-ROM drives. Many people have reported that their CD drives are fried/broken when installing Mandrake 9.2. LG drives are common on Dell PCs. See: http://www.mandrakelinux.com/en/ http://www.mandrakeclub.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Splatt_Forum&file=v… The issue is not thought to affect any other CD-ROM drives. Apologies to those that have read this message more than once, but it is important to let people know ASAP. ------------------ www.linuxshop.co.nz ------------------ Daniel Robertson Linux Shop Ltd P O Box 108001, Symonds St, Auckland 1035 Fax: (09) 624 4206 ------------------ www.linuxshop.co.nz ------------------

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MDA/Herc monitors.
by Gavin Denby 26 Oct '03

26 Oct '03

I have a couple - Maybe of these, They are being given a quick test today, but I no longer have any cards for these, so they are heading to a bin. If anyone wants one ( there is a paper white one there, I think) let me know, and I'll bring them to the lug meeting tonight. Free to a good home, or in the skip tomorrow. Fine for that old server.

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Samba 3 released
by Gavin Denby 26 Oct '03

26 Oct '03

Trusted as stable file and print server software, Samba is now creating a groundswell, triggered by the long-awaited release of the latest version, Samba 3.0.0. There are currently 14-16 million servers running Samba, with an expected 3 million soon to migrate. If you're a longtime Samba geek or a Windows network admin thinking about making the switch, read this interview with Samba Team co-founder John Terpstra. http://www.informit.com/content/index.asp?product_id=%7B4B17C0A6-4F0C-4641-… Its a good article and also has links to the reference guide and howtos. If you are thinking or using samba, I suggest it as a good background.

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WLUG meeting is on Monday, 4 days away
by Meeting Reminder Bot 23 Oct '03

23 Oct '03

Today is 23/10/2003 The WLUG meeting is on Monday, 4 days away CraigBox's Birthday! The topic will be "Giving Craig Gifts and Adoration", by order of the WLUG Secretary! And the subtopic Anti-Virus and Anti-Spam for Linux. Suggested synopsis (please add to me) * Why viruses in Linux (and almost any other non-MS operating system) are not currently an issue, and are unlikely to ever become one. + http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/56/33226.html * getting your LinuxRouterBox to run Exim, Amavis, SpamAssassin, Razor and ClamAV (CraigBox/GreigMcGill) + MailScanner * BayesianFiltering in Mozilla (DanielLawson/PerryLorier?) * plugging SpamAssassin into Evolution (anyone?) + [link] http://support.real-time.com/open-source/spamassassin/evoluti on.html + [link] http://www.atlantawebhost.com/articles/evolution_spamassassin .php + bogofilter & marking msgs spam/ham: [link] http://www.ime.usp.br/~rsilva/bogo-and-evo/ + .forward/.procmail: [link] http://lists.ximian.com/archives/public/evolution/2003-March/ 028045.html + Ximian's answer + http://krath.dk/linux/evolution_spamfilter/ * plugging SpamAssassin into KMail + [link] http://support.real-time.com/open-source/spamassassin/kmail.h tml + http://kmail.kde.org/tools.html * possible use of DNS to stop spam at the SMTP level - eg http://spf.pobox.com/, Reverse MX, or RR records (see http://www.irtf.org/asrg/survey_of_proposals.htm) * Virus scanning of cached web pages through the use of Squid, DansGuardian, and MailScanner (GerwinVanDeSteeg) _________________________________________________________________

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RH9
by Mark 21 Oct '03

21 Oct '03

Hi all, Does anyone have RH9 that I can copy? Mark

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Committee meeting
by Craig Box 21 Oct '03

21 Oct '03

Hi everyone, Seems our automatic "announce committee meeting" scripts aren't working yet, so sorry that the notice for this meeting is short. We are having a WLUG committee meeting tomorrow night, with the current tentative agenda: - library (Craig: publishers; Daniel: LJ) - advocacy (WLUG branded {G,K}noppix) - meeting arrangements - advertising If anyone wishes to add an item to this agenda or has something they would like to bring up at the meeting, please email secretary(a)wlug.org.nz before 3pm tomorrow. Thanks, Craig

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