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conexant and intel ham modems
by Stephen Pearce 14 Jun '04

14 Jun '04

Hi Recently upgraded to Fedora 2 Then realised that the linuxant driver for my conexant hcf modem would not work .. and the only one available free is cripple ware at 14.4k .. it is ~$15$US to upgrade to the full 56k ok .. so I can buy a new DS Intel Ham modem for abt the same .. maybe less .. BUT a bt of research shows that intel have no plans to release a 2.6 kernel version of the linux driver for this 536ep modem .... Has anyone any suggestions on how to get 56k back thriftily (excluding going back to the 2.4 kernel Thanks Stephen

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Re: [wlug] Fedora 2 and rpm denial Terminal log so far
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 13 Jun '04

13 Jun '04

Craig, Fedora 2 is installed on my computer. Thanks to Mattheius. I have four C/D's, Two installed the o/s, the other two I have no clue what to do with. There may even be a media player on the discs My newbieness is the cause of most of my problems I think. I will try to set up the yum. I need to know how to open or, get to, /etc/yum.conf so that I can paste the infomation to it. My original plan was to download xine because the Australian Linux journal said it was an easy install and a good programme, then came all the dependancies and confusing stuff so I went for what I thought was an easier option, Hmmnn! > Since you want to use FreshRPMs, copy and paste the > following to your /etc/yum.conf (as root) > > [freshrpms] > name=FreshRPMs > baseurl=http://ayo.freshrpms.net/fedora/linux/$releasever/ > $basearch/freshrpm s/ > > http://ftp.us2.freshrpms.net/linux/freshrpms/ayo/fedora/linux/$releasever/$… > > Craig > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [wlug] Fedora 2 and rpm denial Terminal log so far
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 13 Jun '04

13 Jun '04

OK, This time I remembered to change to root and I think that the key is imported. My terminal is giving this outcome... [john(a)localhost john]$ su Password: [root(a)localhost john]# rpm -Uvh mplayer-1.0-0.10.pre4.1.fc2.fr.i386.rpm mplayer-1.0-0.10.pre4.1.fc2.fr.i386.rpm: not an rpm package (or package manifest): [root(a)localhost john]# Do I need to redownload the programme?? John.. > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug[john(a)localhost john]$ su Password: [root(a)localhost john]# rpm -Uvh mplayer-1.0-0.10.pre4.1.fc2.fr.i386.rpm mplayer-1.0-0.10.pre4.1.fc2.fr.i386.rpm: not an rpm package (or package manifest): [root(a)localhost john]#

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Re: [wlug] Fedora 2 and rpm denial Terminal log so far
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 12 Jun '04

12 Jun '04

[john(a)localhost john]$ pwd /home/john [john(a)localhost john]$ rpm --import RPM-GPG-KEY.txt error: cannot get exclusive lock on /var/lib/rpm/Packages error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - Operation not permitted (1) error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm error: RPM-GPG-KEY.txt: import failed. [john(a)localhost john]$ rpm --import RPM-GPG-KEY.txt error: cannot get exclusive lock on /var/lib/rpm/Packages error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - Operation not permitted (1) error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm error: RPM-GPG-KEY.txt: import failed. [john(a)localhost john]$ [john(a)localhost john]$ wget http://freshrpms.net/packages/RPM-GPG-KEY.txt --19:36:20-- http://freshrpms.net/packages/RPM-GPG-KEY.txt => `RPM-GPG-KEY.txt.1' Resolving freshrpms.net... 66.40.9.130 Connecting to freshrpms.net[66.40.9.130]:80... connected. HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK Length: 1,631 [text/plain] 100%[====================================>] 1,631 --.--K/s 19:36:22 (15.55 MB/s) - `RPM-GPG-KEY.txt.1' saved [1631/1631] [john(a)localhost john]$ rpm --import RPM-GPG-KEY.txt error: cannot get exclusive lock on /var/lib/rpm/Packages error: cannot open Packages index using db3 - Operation not permitted (1) error: cannot open Packages database in /var/lib/rpm error: RPM-GPG-KEY.txt: import failed. [john(a)localhost john]$ > * jaytee(a)clear.net.nz <jaytee(a)clear.net.nz> [2004-06-12 > > > > 09:12]: > > http://freshrpms.net/packages/RPM-GPG-KEY.txt > > What to do here. There is nothing to download, I saved > > the all the text (from start to finish) in an open > > office file as Key.sxw > > Err, you can put the text into a text editor, but a word > processor document is not a plaintext file. You are > supposed to simply download the file. I did not know this!! > > How about > > wget http://freshrpms.net/packages/RPM-GPG-KEY.txt Yes! This worked fine John.. > "If you can't laugh at yourself, you don't take life > seriously enough." > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [wlug] Fedora 2 and rpm denial
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 12 Jun '04

12 Jun '04

Alistair. Still not able to do this. Are you able to downgrade your instructions to double simpleton for me??? > > download the gpg key that the freshrpms packages are > > signed with: > > http://freshrpms.net/packages/RPM-GPG-KEY.txt What to do here. There is nothing to download, I saved the all the text (from start to finish) in an open office file as Key.sxw I opened the terminal and cut and paste your script, then enter. no response! Still will not install due to Key issue John.... > > and then import it: > > # rpm --import RPM-GPG-KEY.txt > > > > Regards, > > Alastair > > -- > > (o< - A l a s t a i r P o r t e r > > //\ > > V_/_ alastair(a)linuxexperience.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > > Unsubscribe: > > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > > > [Attachment: alastair(a)linuxexperience.com.sig] > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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Re: [wlug] Fedora 2 and rpm denial
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 12 Jun '04

12 Jun '04

Then try to install the programme again after I import the key?? John. > > download the gpg key that the freshrpms packages are > signed with: http://freshrpms.net/packages/RPM-GPG-KEY.txt > > and then import it: > # rpm --import RPM-GPG-KEY.txt > > Regards, > Alastair > -- > (o< - A l a s t a i r P o r t e r > //\ > V_/_ alastair(a)linuxexperience.com > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > > [Attachment: alastair(a)linuxexperience.com.sig]

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Fedora 2 and rpm denial
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 12 Jun '04

12 Jun '04

I just tried installing mplayer but got denied with this message: root(a)localhost john]# rpm -Uvh mplayer-1.0-0.10.pre4.1.fc2.fr.i386.rpm error: mplayer-1.0-0.10.pre4.1.fc2.fr.i386.rpm: V3 DSA signature: BAD, key ID e42d547b error: mplayer-1.0-0.10.pre4.1.fc2.fr.i386.rpm cannot be installed >[root(a)localhost john]# Anyone able to help please. :( John.

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Software Patents.
by Oliver Jones 10 Jun '04

10 Jun '04

With all the discussion on the web about all the bad law in the US it is often easy to miss bad law in your own country. What is the situation in NZ with regard to software patents? I know there is lots of discussion on various OSS/FS sites about the current wrangling in the EU over software patents. Do we have evil laws in NZ regarding this? If we do it would probably be a good idea to start making some noise about it. Regards -- Oliver Jones » Director » oliver.jones(a)deeperdesign.com » +64 (21) 41 2238 Deeper Design Limited » +64 (7) 377 3328 » www.deeperdesign.com

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Unsubscribed posts
by Craig Box 10 Jun '04

10 Jun '04

There have been a couple of people post to the list lately and have their messages silently dropped because they are posting from addresses that are not subscribed. This policy is in place because we get far more spam than we ever get misplaced messages. If you want to post from an address other than the one you receive mail to, you can subscribe to the list "nomail" so you have posting privileges from that address, but you don't receive two copies of the posts. It just so happens there have been two real posts today, and while technically they get deleted straight away, I do actually get notified first. ;) Roger Oed and "Daniel" from Brazil, please resend your messages to the list. Craig 1. In the ultimate irony, I sent this initially from my work email address, which is not subscribed, and it bounced straight back into the notifications box! 2. In the ultimate stupidity, I resent it to wlug-committee instead of wlug! How hard can this BE?

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Running Lynx From Floppy
by Gabriel Bankier-Perry 31 May '04

31 May '04

I'm currently writing a rather extensive tutorial on how to install and configure Slackware 9.1 (http://gabes.orcon.net.nz/slackware_install.html) It's so extensive in fact that it would be stupid for someone to try and print it all out. Instead of getting them to print it out beforehand, I thought I could get them to save the page to a floppy and bring it up in Lynx before starting the installation ie. insert the install cd-rom, login as root, switch to a virtual console, mount the floppy disk, and read the webpage with lynx. That way they could keep switching back to the virtual console and reading the next step while setup was running. The problem was that lynx was not included as an executable on the disk (it was obviously avaliable as a package-yet-to-be-installed). I was now faced with the problem of not having access to a web browser with which to read the tutorial. The first thing I did was try and copy the lynx binary (/usr/bin/lynx) on my (already installed) system onto the same floppy disk as the saved webpage. When I tried to run it, it complained about a missing library (which is logical considering that I only copied the executable). My next thought was to get one of those Linux floppy-based Linux distributions (which usually has lynx). The problem is that I have no idea how I could load it (the floppy-based distro) once I had already booted the install cd. To reiterate, here's my problem: I need to run lynx from the slackware installation cd so I can read a file stored on a floppy disk. Lynx (as an exectutable) isn't found on the disk. How would I be able to run lynx from a floppy disk? Thanks. Note: The Slackware install disks work as live distro before you start the actual installation (ie. you can login and do partitioning, mounting, formatting etc.).

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Spam: Law vs Technology
by Oliver Jones 31 May '04

31 May '04

Personally I think that spam will not go away with new laws. Certainly some laws could be enhanced to give them scope to cover spam type acts but ultimately the problem is with technology not law. Certain things should be made illegal. Ie, domain or email forging. If you don't have permission from the domain or email owner to use an email address the address owner should be able to sue/prosecute. However the problem really is technological. SMTP is too trusting. We need ways of verifying the authenticity of sender addresses and their sources. If methods like SPF were universally adopted and turned on by default much of the problem with spam would go away. People could still send spam. But they would have to do it via "legitimate" servers. Ie, ones they owned. It would then be a case of blocking those servers/networks that repeatedly offended. People will argue that they shouldn't need to block servers. People should just stop sending spam. This however is more problematic than you might think. The problem with spam is not that it is unsolicited or commercial or bulk but rather that it is unwanted. The problem however is that you don't know it is unwanted until you read it. For example, say someone was overtly generous and very rich (and perhaps slightly crazy). If they send 2 million email messages to randomly harvested addresses giving them information on how to get a $100 would this mail necessarily be unwanted by the recipients. In today's environment people would be highly suspicious of this email but for the sake of argument imagine that the offer was legit. Why should this behaviour be illegal? Similarly would it be illegal to send 2 million snail mail envelopes to randomly selected addresses with $100 stuffed into each? People would be falling over themselves to get on this mailing list. I believe all we need is good law regarding fraud, false advertising, pornography and commercial entity identification accompanied by good user driven technology that enables network administrators to lock the bad guys out. So, everyone should configure their mail server with SPF immediately! Regards -- Oliver Jones » Director » oliver.jones(a)deeperdesign.com » +64 (21) 41 2238 Deeper Design Limited » +64 (7) 377 3328 » www.deeperdesign.com

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Re: [wlug] Help with fedora 2 please
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 28 May '04

28 May '04

Hi Glenn, I looked at the site, am totally clueless, will have to learn a little more about the o/s basics before I attempt to take this further. John.. > > Have a look at dri.sourceforge.net. You may need to > install one of dev snapshots. I have a Mobility U1 > (IGP320M) on my laptop and 3D acceleration works fine > with this. I get similar fps to the Windows versions. > > MergedFB however is broken for this chip and it doesn't > work with 2 monitors at once. I had to fool it into > thinking that the LCD doesn't exist to be able to set the > framerate on the CRT port to something other than 60 Hz. > > g > > > -- > Glenn Ramsey <glenn(a)componic.co.nz> 07 8627077 > http://www.componic.co.nz > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: > http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug

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creating folders
by Gun Caundle 27 May '04

27 May '04

I'm trying to create a new folder within the 'guncom' folder but can't. However I can create a new folder in the 'gun' folder. > [gun(a)LinuxBox home]$ ls > gun guncom > [gun(a)LinuxBox home]$ cd guncom > [gun(a)LinuxBox guncom]$ mkdir testsharing > mkdir: cannot create directory `testsharing': Permission denied > [gun(a)LinuxBox guncom]$ cd .. > [gun(a)LinuxBox home]$ cd gun > [gun(a)LinuxBox gun]$ mkdir whozyadaddy > [gun(a)LinuxBox gun]$ Any help with this would be appreciated. Gun Caundle

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Legislation Against Spam
by Perry Lorier 27 May '04

27 May '04

The government is currently requesting information from "interested parties" about drafting legislation against spam, as can be found here: http://www.med.govt.nz/pbt/infotech/spam/ As the LUG is a concentration of technically minded users, it seems that we would be a good candidate to put forward some comments. The government have asked 22 specific questions which are documented at the URL above. I've created a wiki page for people to discuss their ideas with the hope that in about a months time (when the submissions are due) we can take the comments and merge them into some kind of prose to submit to the government. After reading the above document, go over to http://www.wlug.org.nz/LegislatingAgainstSpam and add your comments :)

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RE: LDAP Browsers
by Gerwin van de Steeg 27 May '04

27 May '04

I use a program called LBE, it's java based so will run on nearly anything. http://www.msc.anl.gov/~gawor/ldap http://www.iit.edu/~gawojar/ldap Gerwin van de Steeg

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Help with fedora 2 please
by jaytee＠clear.net.nz 26 May '04

26 May '04

Hi All, I am having a few of problems with fedora 2. The ati rage mobility card is working very slowly, ie chrominum is slow, choppy, cursor uncontrolable. programme is hard to get out of. Tux racer is working but very slow and graphics are not amazing. Also on boot it is not loading eth0 xircom cb for some reason. I still managed to configure the modem and can get on line. I have no clue on text editting so please just use small words and type slowly. :) Any help appreciated John (newbie) Thompson.

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Wifi PCMCIA Card Trade 2 for 1 ?
by Drew Broadley 25 May '04

25 May '04

I have two wifi PCMCIA card's I am willing to trade below: 1 * Netgear HA501 - 802.11a 1 * Belkin F5D6020 ver2 - 802.11b Neither of these work under my current OS (FreeBSD) and I am wanting to trade these two for a single 802.11b card that will work under FreeBSD (prism2 /prism2.5 chipset) Cheers, Drew

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Committee meeting minutes
by Craig Box 23 May '04

23 May '04

Minutes of last Wednesday's committee meeting are now up at http://www.wlug.org.nz/CommitteeMeetingTopics.2004-05-19. Remember also tonights meeting at Crawshaw School, 7pm, on Linux at the Hamilton City Council. Craig

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(Commercial) Tux Sticker
by wlug.miguel＠ptaff.ca 23 May '04

23 May '04

>From Montreal Canada, hello Waikato! Having seen many Mac stickers on car's bumber, I thought that I could, me too, show what my colors are on my car. I searched on the internet to find a Tux sticker, this sympathetic antarctic animal. I was amazed and a bit sad when I discovered that such a thing doesn't exist. I then told myself: I will do one! My car is right now with a beautiful Tux sticker and everyone knows what my OS is. And I am proud to tell that I can offer it to all the community at: http://tuxsticker.ptaff.ca/ Miguel Tremblay

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May Meeting - Monday 24th
by Daniel Lawson 19 May '04

19 May '04

It seems we were slack in organising the May meeting. I'm blaming the Installfest for that. Shay McAuley from the Hamilton City Council has agreed to give a presentation on the use of Linux within the City Council. Where: Crawshaw School (http://www.wlug.org.nz/CrawshawSchool) When: 7pm Monday 24th May Note the early (winter-season) start time. Doors will be open from about 6:45. Daniel

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FC2 Discs?
by Oliver Jones 19 May '04

19 May '04

Anyone got the Fedora Core 2 discs yet? All binary discs: 1,2,3,4 & Rescue. If so I'd dearly like a copy. I can supply replacement blanks or funds to cover effort. Regards -- Oliver Jones » Director » oliver.jones(a)deeperdesign.com » +64 (21) 41 2238 Deeper Design Limited » +64 (7) 377 3328 » www.deeperdesign.com

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LDAP browsers
by Daniel Lawson 18 May '04

18 May '04

I just noticed Luma (http://luma.sourceforge.net/) linked off freshmeat. It's already up to v 1.20, so i'm not sure how I missed it this long. It's an LDAP browser / editor. Has anyone had experience using Luma? I've used GQ up till now, as I didn't know of any other decent generic LDAP browsers (ones like DirectoryAdministrator were very much targetted at a specific use and schema set). There's no ebuild for gentoo yet, so i'll have to compile from scratch. I'll have a look at it tonight. Daniel

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FW: international Open Source Community :)
by Craig Box 17 May '04

17 May '04

(This was sent to someone in Samoa and CC'd to me.) Hello I'm sorry if i writing not to right adress. For example if you Bill Gates :) I'm linux user. I from russia if you can see. You country is very interesting and i want find new friends in it.:) Especially linux Users ;-) i think Open Source haven't mete(border) :)isn't it? Can you help me? and i want to know how popular linux in your country. What perspective have linux in you country etc.... if you have a few times for me you can give me few information. P.S.Hi from www.saratov.lug.ru Saratov(RUssia) Linux User Group .

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Fedora Core 2.
by Oliver Jones 17 May '04

17 May '04

Anyone on a cheap Internet link downloading Fedora Core 2? If someone would be so kind I would like to acquire a copy. I would download it myself but business Jetstream is expensive and we've blown our monthly cap on E3 videos. :) Regards -- Oliver Jones » Director » oliver.jones(a)deeperdesign.com » +64 (21) 41 2238 Deeper Design Limited » +64 (7) 377 3328 » www.deeperdesign.com

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InterNAT field trials
by Jim Fleming 17 May '04

17 May '04

The 5-letter (or less) .NET domain names are being used for the InterNAT field trials. Those provide FREE (as in $$s) allocations of static address space and ASNs for short names. http://ipv8.no-ip.com/cgi-bin/vanety25?a=L&b=U&c=N&d=I&e=_ Local help is available to set up your DSL and/or Cable sub-nets. It is best to have your .NET domain name before you attempt to connect. A.NET #include <stdio.h> /* * * vanety25 * * Convert a 5-symbol .NET name to prefix information. * * vanety25 addressing is based on a 32-Symbol Alphabet. * The 26 letters A to Z are included, along with the digits 0,8,1 and 3. * The (R) Symbol and Dash (-) are also included. * */ int addr; int asn; extern void v8_whois(int); main(argc,argv) int argc; char **argv; { int i; char c; char *p; char input[5]; printf("Content-type: text/html\n\n"); printf("<body><html><center><h3>InterNAT Resources for:</h3>"); if(argc != 2){ printf("example usage: %s -UNIR\n",argv[0]); exit(); } if(p = strstr(argv[1],"a=")){ input[0]= *(p+2); } else{ input[0] = 0; } if(p = strstr(argv[1],"b=")){ input[1]= *(p+2); } else{ input[1] = 0; } if(p = strstr(argv[1],"c=")){ input[2]= *(p+2); } else{ input[2] = 0; } if(p = strstr(argv[1],"d=")){ input[3]= *(p+2); } else{ input[3] = 0; } if(p = strstr(argv[1],"e=")){ input[4]= *(p+2); } else{ input[4] = 0; } addr=0; for(i=0; i<5; i++){ if(input[i] == 0){ break; } c = toupper(input[i]); if(isalpha(c)){ addr += c-'A'+1; } else{ switch(c){ case '0': addr += 27; break; case '8': addr += 28; break; case '1': addr += 29; break; case '3': addr += 30; break; case '-': addr += 31; } } addr <<= 5; } asn = addr>>5; printf("<b>"); v8_whois(addr); printf(".NET</b><br>\n"); printf("%d.%d.%d.%d.%d",(addr>>25)&0x1f,(addr>>20)&0x1f,(addr>>15)&0x1f,(addr>>10)&0x1f,(addr>>5)&0x1f); printf("<table border=3>"); for(i=0; i<4; i++){ printf("<tr><td align=center>"); v8_print_i32x5(addr); printf("</td><td align=center>\n"); printf("%d.%d.%d.%d",(addr>>24)&0xff,(addr>>16)&0xff,(addr>>8)&0xff,addr&0xff); printf("</td><td align=center>\n"); v8_print_i32x8(addr); printf("</td></tr>\n"); addr += 0x40000000; } printf("</table>\n"); printf("Mask: 63.255.255.224"); if((asn&0xFFFF8000)==0){ printf("<table border=3>\n"); printf("<tr><td align=center>"); printf("ASN0</td><td align=center>%d</td><td align=center>",asn); v8_print_i32x5(asn); printf("</td></tr>"); printf("<tr><td align=center>"); printf("ASN1</td><td align=center>%d</td><td align=center>",asn|0x8000); v8_print_i32x5(asn|0x8000); printf("</td></tr>"); printf("</table>\n"); } printf("</center>\n"); printf("</body>\n"); printf("</html>\n"); } #include <stdio.h> /* * * IPv8 Support Library * */ /* * * The IPv8 .NET alphabet consists of 32 symbols. * A void or 0 is represented as the (R) ® Symbol. * The letters A to Z are supported with only one case. * The numeric symbols 0, 8, 1 and 3 are also supported. * Lastly, the Dash (-) is included. * */ static char v8_alpha32_table[] = {'A','B','C','D','E','F','G','H','I','J','K','L','M','N','O','P','Q','R','S','T','U','V','W','X','Y','Z','0','8','1','3','-'}; /* * * Given a 32-bit value, extract and print the 25-bit prefix. * */ v8_whois(i) int i; { int j; int m; for(j=0; j<5; j++){ m=(i>>25)&0x1f; if(m==0){ printf("®"); } else{ putchar(v8_alpha32_table[m-1]); } i <<= 5; } } v8_print_i32x8(value) int value; { putchar(value&0x80000000?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x40000000?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x20000000?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x10000000?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x08000000?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x04000000?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x02000000?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x01000000?'1':'0'); putchar('.'); putchar(value&0x00800000?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00400000?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00200000?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00100000?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00080000?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00040000?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00020000?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00010000?'1':'0'); putchar('.'); putchar(value&0x00008000?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00004000?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00002000?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00001000?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00000800?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00000400?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00000200?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00000100?'1':'0'); putchar('.'); putchar(value&0x00000080?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00000040?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00000020?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00000010?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00000008?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00000004?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00000002?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00000001?'1':'0'); } v8_print_i32x5(value) int value; { putchar(value&0x80000000?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x40000000?'1':'0'); putchar('.'); putchar(value&0x20000000?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x10000000?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x08000000?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x04000000?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x02000000?'1':'0'); putchar('.'); putchar(value&0x01000000?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00800000?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00400000?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00200000?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00100000?'1':'0'); putchar('.'); putchar(value&0x00080000?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00040000?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00020000?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00010000?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00008000?'1':'0'); putchar('.'); putchar(value&0x00004000?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00002000?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00001000?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00000800?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00000400?'1':'0'); putchar('.'); putchar(value&0x00000200?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00000100?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00000080?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00000040?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00000020?'1':'0'); putchar('.'); putchar(value&0x00000010?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00000008?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00000004?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00000002?'1':'0'); putchar(value&0x00000001?'1':'0'); }

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nfsroot
by Jonathan Purvis 15 May '04

15 May '04

Hi, I have managed to get my iMac to netboot the Linux kernel. The kernel seems to load fine, but stops with a kernel panic as it can't mount the root filesystem. I'm using the default 2.4 kernel from Debian 3.0. As per the instructions for yaboot (the Open Firmware boot loader that LinuxPPC uses), i set "root=/dev/nfs". Is this what i'm supposed to do to get / mounted via NFS? Is this a sign the kernel doesn't have nfsroot support? I found a web page that suggested i add "fsroot=$SERVER:/export/root", but that didn't help. Does anyone have any ideas? Thanks, Jon

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Upcoming committee meeting
by Craig Box 13 May '04

13 May '04

Per the WLUG charter, we'd like to inform you that there is an WLUG committee meeting to be held next Wednesday, 19 May. Tentative Agenda 1. Minutes from previous meeting 2. Treasurer's Report 3. Correspondence 4. Installfest - Summary 5. General Business If you want to have an item added to this agenda, please contact me at secretary(a)wlug.org.nz. Craig, Secretary

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serial terminal program
by Glenn Ramsey 12 May '04

12 May '04

I want to give my modem an ATL0 to see if I can make it quieter. What program do I use for this? g -- Glenn Ramsey <glenn(a)componic.co.nz> 07 8627077 http://www.componic.co.nz

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compiling 2.6.5 kernel from rh9 .. a better distro?
by Stephen Pearce 11 May '04

11 May '04

Recently downloaded the 2.6.5 kernel from kernel.org as a tgz source file .. and tried to install on rh9 .. but the new installation fails at boot. I am now thinking of converting to an alternative distro that will allow this easily .. I understand rh has a whole lot of distro specfic stuff which has to be organised .. Could someone advise me on either how to get it going using rh9 .. or which alternate distro would be best ..rh is the one I'm familiar with. Also ..can you install a new distro without a reformat of the disk .. to preserve all my personal files? Lastly, can anyone provide me with a copy of such a distro .. I can pay postage and media cost. Thanks Stephen Pearce

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creating directories
by Gun Caundle 11 May '04

11 May '04

I am trying to create a directory in my 'home' directory with my user login. However I can only create a directory as a root user and thus can't use it with my user login. I can use the 'gun' directory in 'home' with my user login. Any help would be appreciated. [gun(a)LinuxBox home]$ mkdir adelle mkdir: cannot create directory `adelle': Permission denied [gun(a)LinuxBox home]$ su Password: [root(a)LinuxBox home]# mkdir adelle [root(a)LinuxBox home]# exit exit [gun(a)LinuxBox home]$ ls -ld drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 May 12 08:55 . [gun(a)LinuxBox home]$ cd gun [gun(a)LinuxBox gun]$ ls -ld drwx------ 25 gun gun 4096 May 12 08:54 . [gun(a)LinuxBox gun]$ cd .. [gun(a)LinuxBox home]$ ls -ld adelle drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 12 08:55 adelle [gun(a)LinuxBox home]$

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RE: [wlug] creating directories
by Lindsay Druett 11 May '04

11 May '04

[gun(a)LinuxBox home]$ ls -ld drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 May 12 08:55 . As you can see with the home directory, The owner of the directory has read/write/execute access. The group of the directory has read/execute access (No write access). Everyone else has read/execute access (No write access). Incidentally, root has full control of adelle, and if adelle is a user, tough, adelle ony is seen as Joe Public and has read execute access. For security reasons, I would leave it as is (and login as root to create subdirectories - this sort of thing should be automated when a new user is created - each user should have their own directory to do whatever and that should pertain to that user) but if you feel another way inclined want to have full control as a user, then chown gun home chgrp gun home Or else if you want want everyone to have rw access the chmod 777 home I hope this helps. > -----Original Message----- > From: Gun Caundle [mailto:gun(a)paradise.net.nz] > Sent: Wednesday, 12 May 2004 09:36 > To: wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Subject: [wlug] creating directories > > > I am trying to create a directory in my 'home' directory > with my user > login. However I can only create a directory as a root user and thus > can't use it with my user login. I can use the 'gun' directory in > 'home' with my user login. > Any help would be appreciated. > > [gun(a)LinuxBox home]$ mkdir adelle > mkdir: cannot create directory `adelle': Permission denied > [gun(a)LinuxBox home]$ su > Password: > [root(a)LinuxBox home]# mkdir adelle > [root(a)LinuxBox home]# exit > exit > [gun(a)LinuxBox home]$ ls -ld > drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 May 12 08:55 . > [gun(a)LinuxBox home]$ cd gun > [gun(a)LinuxBox gun]$ ls -ld > drwx------ 25 gun gun 4096 May 12 08:54 . > [gun(a)LinuxBox gun]$ cd .. > [gun(a)LinuxBox home]$ ls -ld adelle > drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 May 12 08:55 adelle > [gun(a)LinuxBox home]$ > > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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Xandros 2.0
by Nigel Nguyen 11 May '04

11 May '04

Hi, I have tried xandros for a couple weeks, it nice and easy to install/use. Well, just feel like Andreas, same Yoper but Canadian(i believed they from Canada, Andreas :) ) It recommended for newbies and windows mover as they X/team has tweaked some features to get their own filemanager and the software depository (called XandrosNetwork). Installed stuff outside that is just normal as install on other debian based distro or just configure/make/make install. Overall, easy to use but less "fun" of course. IMO, if yoper has the GUI installation (i havn't tried the 2.0 yet) than Yoper is a clear winner as newbies always scare of text thing thou :) Just a few comments, Nigel Ng. P.S: Do anyone know if Yoper has new zealand mirror for downloading ?

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Performance bottle neck?
by Raymond Burgess 11 May '04

11 May '04

I am currently importing a lot of data into a Postgres Database. Initially things where quickish, but now it seems to be running very slowly. I put this down to index scans. The machine is a Dual P4 with 2 GB of ram and a Raid array (14 Fibre Channel Harddrives) Top is reporting the disk cache is 1.7 GB and system idle around 70%. The postgres backend is using 10% to 20% of one CPU. I don't know if the bottleneck is the Disk IO or Ram. What would people suggest I can look at to see what is holding up the process?

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Xandros 2.0 SE
by Gible Fog 10 May '04

10 May '04

'llo :) Included with the aussie PC Authority's April issue is a copy of Xandros 2.0 SE which I shall (attempt to) install if and when I get time. Any comments/opinions/gripes/warnings about this distro? Love & Spikes Gible "Arguing on Usenet is like running in the Special Olympics. Even if you win, you're still retarded." - James McGuigan in rec.games.computer.stars

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Yoper V2 is out
by Andreas Girardet 10 May '04

10 May '04

Hello fellow Linux enthusiasts Version 2 of Yoper (iso date 20040509) is now available on http://www.yoper.com. Main changes are: - RPM based - Apt-rpm support and repository available - More than 400 packages now available - Yoper is not commercial anymore - Installer allows a fully apt capable minimal install (around 300Mbyte) - The KDE experience has been extended by including Openoffice with full KDE look and Geramik as a GTK KDE theme - Synaptic is now the graphical package management system - 400 packages (including Gnome) are available via apt - Yoper is still i686 optimised and performance patches from Con Kolivas bring even greater speed Regards Andreas Girardet

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Installfest aftermath
by Daniel Lawson 10 May '04

10 May '04

We've just finished tidying up after the installfest. I think we had about 30 registrants, but I'm sure more than that came throughout the day. I'm pretty sure we got linux onto a few peoples computers, and we solved a good number of problems. Let's hope we didn't create more than we solved :). Out of interest, I checked the usage graphs for the Internet link, and we peaked at 170 KB/sec at one point during the day. Next time I'd like to enforce use of a proxy server, as I'm sure most of that traffic was duplicated a few times. While I remember, I'd like to fire off a few points: * I think it was a great success. We had many new people turn up - some from as far away as Waihi at least - and it was a really great atmosphere. * Thanks to everyone who helped. The entire committee, Bruce, Alastair, Matthias, Lindsay, Alan, Shay, Shane and all the rest who helped people out during the day. Big ups :). * Thanks to Lindsay / University of Waikato ITS for supplying the Cisco Catalyst 5000 and 2926 switches. * Thanks to Phil / Open 2 View for providing the server. Thanks Carich for going into receivership and allowing Open 2 View to buy lots of your old computing equipment . * Thanks to Crawshaw School for the use of the Hall and facilities, and the use of the Internet connection. Thanks also to Satlan, Crawshaw's Internet provider. * Thanks to DSE for giving us some Mandrake 9.2 cds. We still have a handful of these left, so if anyone would like a copy of this, yell out, you can pick it up at the next meeting. * Thanks to IT Partners for providing "CD Duplication Facilities". And thanks again to everyone who turned up. We've learned a bit about running these, so hopefully next time things will run a bit smoother - we should have enough tables at least! Daniel

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Installfest
by Gun Caundle 09 May '04

09 May '04

Thanx to all those that organised the Installfest. > It was very successful for me and the help I got is very much > appreciated. As a bonus, it gave me a buzz watching these guys > zooming around linux files making changes. Their skill and knowledge > level blew me away. > > Cheers > Gun Caundle

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Installfest roundup
by Craig Box 09 May '04

09 May '04

Hi there, Thanks to everyone who came to the installfest today, and a special thanks to all those who helped out; especially Matt for all the organizing, Daniel for the venue and Bruce for rousing all the attendants! We had a lot of people signing up as a token of their gratitude - thank you very much; those of you who didn't pay today will want to check https://secure.wlug.org.nz/join.html to figure out what to do next. Just a note to a gentleman named David, who gave us Mandrake 10 - you paid and filled out a membership form, which I think you took with you. Can you contact me off list, if you're out there, or if anyone knows David can they please ask him to get in touch. I'm sure you'll hear more from others about this event soon. If you came, and have any questions or comments, please feel free to post them to this list. Regards, Craig

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Installfest is this weekend
by Daniel Lawson 06 May '04

06 May '04

As you are all probably aware, the WLUG Installfest is happening this weekend, Saturday 8 May, at Crawshaw Primary School. Directions and information can be obtained from the WLUG Wiki, at http://www.wlug.org.nz/InstallFest. If you are planning on coming, please please please register your interest. We'd like to have a rough idea of how many tables to put out, how many meters of power and network cabling we need, and how many sachets of Raro to buy. This also applies if you have talked to people and they are keen on coming - get them to register as well, or register a separate time for their entry. Thanks a lot, we hope to see a lot of you on Saturday. Daniel

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Network profiles in Mandrake
by Glenn Ramsey 05 May '04

05 May '04

Anyone know how to get network profiles working in Mandrake? The whole system seems to be badly broken, but then again I may have set it up wrong. What I want is to set up a home profile and a University profile on my laptop. Home needs a static ip and University needs dhcp. Actually home could use dhcp too but then if I boot when not connected to a network it takes forever to time out looking for the dhcp server. I have tried to set this up using netdrake (or whatever it's called) but the ip address settings ie static/dhcp etc seem to be independent of the profile, so there isn't really any point to using it. Any suggestions? g -- Glenn Ramsey <glenn(a)componic.co.nz> 07 8627077 http://www.componic.co.nz

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'Automatic' kernel patching
by Daniel Lawson 03 May '04

03 May '04

Just saw an article about automatic kernel patching linked off rootprompt.org Ketchup is a script that intelligently downloads the right files for a kernel. EG, if you want to grab the latest kernel source, and you have nothing, it'll just grab the source. If you already have an earlier version, it'll grab the right patches to bring that version up to speed. It also understands a range of patchsets, such as the -pre or -rc kernels, and some of the extra patchsets such as the -mm, -tiny and -mjb patchsets. http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/2976 http://www.selenic.com/ketchup/

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Mysql support in apache /php
by Stephen Pearce 03 May '04

03 May '04

Hi Any experts on this out there? I have set up a mysql database running on a server. The database is loadable and can be interacted with via mysql client using a telnet session. A basic php script running on the httpd server <?php phpinfo() ?> returns a result suggesting mysql is supported ..under the dbx subheading of the return .. but if I run the "mysql_connect" command the web page shows a error saying that this function (mysql_connect()) is not supported .. I cannot work out why not. Secondly I would ideally have liked to create the database as non root .. but seem to only be allowed to do it as root. Other users can readily access it. The os is rh9. Oddly, setting this up locally on my laptop there is no problem in running mysql_connect despite the installation being essentially identical (although I did use mysql rpm binaries to set up mysql). Any thought appreciated Stephen :>)

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RE: [wlug] Programming Courses ?
by David Nicholls 29 Apr '04

29 Apr '04

Hi gavin check out these courses at the uni (comp-sci)... comp103 comp130 and possibly comp208 comp258 Cheers... david -----Original Message----- From: Gavin Denby [mailto:redhat(a)ihug.co.nz] Subject: Re: [wlug] Programming Courses ? Thanks for the interesting comments to date, Just to fine tune my thinking, If a new programmer learnt C++ and then was handed some C code for tidy up, he would probably manage ok ??? Of course since no courses seem to be available, it may come down to books and self learning anyway. Both the polytech and uni are sending me course details, but neither course call centre understood a bean of what I asked.

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Programming Courses ?
by Gavin Denby 29 Apr '04

29 Apr '04

Having lasted 25 years as an electronic Tech, I am needing to expand to cope with the continued blurring of the line between when the electronics start and the Programming of PC's takes over. I already write assembler for microcontrollers (programming from 2K to 2 meg in assembler) and really should be using c for this, but have never took the time to learn it.I have however programed in both Portran (port-a Punch) and basic many years ago. Ancient history lesson ends I basically need to program PC's to set up/ colect data/ process data and probably via a graphical interface. so my question ... in 2 parts: 1. Is C still a viable language to learn to write programs for PC/MAC Ideally in Win MacOSX (cocoa looks nice) and Linux or should I be looking at C# / Mono / QT / ?? It seems that all later programming languages seem to be adding to C (extend .. embrace ??) so Would C be a good start place ? All opinions welcome.... and crystal ball gazing will be entertained. 2. Does anyone have experience with a good course / course provider that they would recommend to provide such training. I would prefer part time training, as my family like to eat, but this is flexible, as I can work nights/weekend is the course is not too long. Of course, then I could apply for the job that just hit my inbox too :-) Thanks in advance.

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Re: [wlug] Pentium 200, free to a good home.
by Stephen Pearce 28 Apr '04

28 Apr '04

If you still have it .. probably not .. I'm interested Thanks Stephen pearce > > From: Oliver Jones <oliver(a)deeper.co.nz> > Date: 2004/04/19 Mon PM 08:54:16 GMT+12:00 > To: Waikato Linux Users Group <wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz> > Subject: [wlug] Pentium 200, free to a good home. > > Pentium 200, 64MB SIMM RAM, AT Case & Motherboard. Free to a good > home. Take it now or I chuck it. > > Regards > -- > Oliver Jones Â» Director Â» oliver.jones(a)deeperdesign.com Â» +64 (21) 41 > 2238 > Deeper Design Limited Â» +64 (7) 377 3328 Â» www.deeperdesign.com > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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OT Programming Job
by Craig Mckenna 28 Apr '04

28 Apr '04

Wanted: Programmer/s with HTML, Perl and Java experience, preferably on a linux platform. This is for an immediate project requirement. Must have database experience. Please contact simon(a)eforms.co.nz to arrange a meeting. We are based in Hamilton and have an excellent coffee machine! -- Craig Mckenna IT Systems Manager Eforms Limited

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iptables question
by DrWho? 27 Apr '04

27 Apr '04

This has more then likely been asked by a million people with a million different answers but here goes. I was wondering if it is possible for iptables to filter by a domain name? I would like to restrict port 80 connects to .nz domains only and all others are stealthed. The solution does not need to be very fast, handle more then one high level domain or any other ports and is not for commercial usage. Any solutions?

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RE: Perl spelling rules (was: [wlug] iptables question [OT])
by Lindsay Druett 27 Apr '04

27 Apr '04

HeY yOu FoGoT tO dO tHe SuBjEcT > -----OrIgInAl mEsSaGe----- > From: A. pAgAlTzIs [mailto:pAgAlTzIs(a)gMx.dE] > Sent: Tuesday, 27 April 2004 13:59 > To: wAiKaTo lInUx uSeRs gRoUp > Subject: Re: Perl spelling rules (was: [wlug] iptables question [OT]) > > > * OrIoN(a)CoKe.nEt.nZ <oRiOn(a)cOkE.NeT.Nz> [2004-04-27 03:21]: > > FiLeSyStEmS WhIcH ArE PeDaNtIc aBoUt cAsE ArE StUpId. HuMaNs > > WhIcH ArE PeDaNtIc aBoUt tHe cAsE Of aN AcRoNyM ArE 100 TiMeS > > WoRsE. > > i bEt yOu cArE AbOuT CaSe aS WeLl. > > -- > ReGaRdS, > ArIsToTlE > > "iF YoU CaN'T LaUgH At yOuRsElF, yOu dOn't tAkE LiFe > sErIoUsLy eNoUgH." > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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ms access 97 to apache/php/mysql
by Stephen Pearce 27 Apr '04

27 Apr '04

Is there an automated way to take an access 97 database and port it to mysql .. and convert the forms for php access using apche? (I have apache/php and mysqld operating on a networked server .. and am now trying to do the port) Thanks Stephen

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RE: [wlug] iptables question
by Lindsay Druett 26 Apr '04

26 Apr '04

Well, that address space wasn't featured on the Auckland Peering Exchange, Mmm... > -----Original Message----- > From: pdm1-forwarding > Sent: Tuesday, 27 April 2004 11:43 > To: Waikato Linux Users Group > Subject: Re: [wlug] iptables question > > > Lindsay Druett wrote: > > What ? All of it ? > > > > But someone mentioned that there are bits of it over in Japan. > > Someone else mentioned that it was all over the show. > > That would have been a more recent assignment, I don't think APNIC > > even see Telecom as a big enough player to assign a full /8 block. > > > > They got assigned 222.152/16. I have one of these addresses > on my home DSL > and I can't get to various portions of the internet, can be > quite annoying. > > Philip Murray > Systems Engineer - Open2view.com > webmaster(a)open2view.com > > _______________________________________________ > wlug mailing list | wlug(a)list.waikato.ac.nz > Unsubscribe: http://list.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/wlug > >

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